Dave-H

That's good news, way better than last month when it had become almost impossible to complete a normal scan in any sort or realistic timescale!

How long did the scan take to get to that this time?! No yellow system tray shield here in England yet.

I bet it weighs a ton too! I would at least replace the BIOS battery, assuming you can get it open. They're not expensive.

The screen with the smiley face is because you were looking at a page on Microsoft's support site in IE8. The pages on the MS support site no longer work at all in IE8, in fact you do sometimes get a message saying that you must use another browser, and sometimes just the emoticon with no text. There is no way around this as far as I know, you have to now use another browser for those support pages.

Thanks! The revoked certificates update failed the first time I tried it, but worked when I tried again. I now have - authroots.sst 13/06/17 20:02 delroots.sst 12/11/16 00:59 roots.sst 13/06/17 20:02 updroots.sst 13/06/17 20:02 disallowedcert.sst 20/04/17 16:59

The KB4032782 update for IE8 was included in the latest packaged security fix for Windows 10. It affects IE9-11 as well.

Incidentally, I've just noticed that the "Windows Update" link under the Tools menu in IE8 is now working again. I guess MS finally fixed the redirection failure!

As I almost never print from IE8 nowadays, i think I'll give that one a miss unless it's promoted to an important update!

Well I must say that I didn't know that the Big Mac based comparisons started with the Economist magazine in the UK! The Mars Bar comparison always used to be used by British newspapers long before the delights of McDonalds were really known about here.

Here in the UK, it always used to be the price of Mars Bars that was used for price comparisons!

February 2021. This is a continuation of this thread which was originally to discuss the use of Flash, Shockwave, and Java on Windows XP. Flash and Shockwave are now discontinued by Adobe, and the former has been disabled in current browser systems. Current Java 8 versions are no longer compatible with XP, and many later older versions which will run on XP have to be installed manually as the installer is incompatible. This thread is to discuss the problems of keeping these technologies alive on XP systems. For the replay of .SWF files, the standalone "projector" Flash player is still available from Adobe - https://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/debug_downloads.html#fp10 Wayback Machine archived Flash links Archive of all Flash versions - https://web.archive.org/web/20200630185339/https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html Flash 32.0.0.371 archive (the last version without the January 2021 disabling time-bomb) - https://web.archive.org/web/20200630185943/https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/installers/archive/fp_32.0.0.371_archive.zip This compressed archive contains all versions of 32.0.0.371, and is a 387 MB file. Java Links Java 8 Update 151 is the last that will install on Windows XP without any modification work - https://www.filepuma.com/download/java_runtime_environment_32bit_8.0.1510.12-16905/ The last version which works (but does not install) on XP without any file substitutions is Java 8 Update 241 - https://javadl.oracle.com/webapps/download/GetFile/1.8.0_241-b07/1f5b5a70bf22433b84d0e960903adac8/windows-i586/jre-8u241-windows-i586.tar.gz If Java is not already on the system, Update 151 will need to be installed first using its installer. Then the files from Update 241 will need to be extracted from the compressed archive above, and the 152 files replaced with the 241 files, and the registry edited to reflect this, as detailed in the thread.

In my experience, the updates for the 2007 Office Compatibility Pack often only update the converter files for Office elements, like wordcnv.exe for Word, excelcnv.exe for Excel etc. That being the case, the latest version of those files is the latest version, and there's no need to have installed intermediate versions. Of course occasionally, like last time, other files such as DLLs are updated too, but I would still be surprised if you weren't covered by the latest updates.

Are those updates only applicable to the full install of Office 2007? I have Office XP (2002) installed, with the 2007 Compatibility Pack as an add-on.

I thought the Office viewers were standalone applications. Do you actually get updates for it?

I've updated to version 4.5.2016.17. No problems found so far. Thanks @jumper!

Strange, I've seen no difference in performance with 52.2 over 52.0, but I do have a reasonably powerful machine which might make the difference. I also have eight add-ons installed too, and although browsing isn't as quick as with Opera 36 say, I don't think it's a problem, and I much prefer Firefox for other reasons.

Someone said that support for the Office 2007 Compatibility Pack finally ends in October. I hope after that this nonsense will stop and normal Windows/Microsoft Update patching will resume again!

There's an update for Silverlight too, for anyone that has it installed, version 5.1.50907.0.

Strange, I updated to Firefox 52.2 ESR today, and YouTube is still working fine for me. Mixcloud.com seems to be fine as well, but I don't think I can test soundcloud.com as I'm not a member.

Oops, sorry I had a brainstorm there! It's actually Opera 12.02 I'm running on 98SE, not 12.18. Move on everyone, nothing to see here.............

What's wrong with Opera 12.18, it works fine for me on 98SE, with a few quirks?!

Well that verson does not work for me. As expected, the KB890830 version just says it's not a valid Win32 application if I try to run it on XP.

IIRC all versions of MRT.exe after version 5.39.12900.0 just throw an error message if you try to run them on XP. I had no entry for KB982316 originally in my registry either, but having installed it , I now do. Looking at previous posts, I don't think it's a fix that's relevant except in particular circumstances, but I'm assuming there's no harm in having it installed anyway.

Well I'm certainly not going to be the first to try it! Someone with a non-critical installation that can be used for testing and doesn't matter if it gets hosed I hope will try it and report back.

Just as a matter of interest for those who may not know about it, there is a utility available here which will download from Windows Update or Microsoft Update for you, including saving the files for use offline. It's mainly useful in Windows 10, where it is otherwise impossible to see optional updates for some stupid reason, but it works in all Windows versions from 2000 onwards. It does replace the IE8 interface, but unfortunately still uses the normal update mechanism, so won't get around the extremely slow scanning problem! There are x86 and x64 versions in the package, but no documentation. It's pretty obvious how to use it though, and there is more information here.