@ Alanoll thanks, my install is nLited so may have something to do with all this, as is SolidasRock's and for that matter so is drthawhizkid's, I'm going to work on and let you know. I tried the .ini method again and no ql or name, just as code is above, cmd is also the same. EDIT maybe I'm causing the QL problem by using this in my batch, I know I'm fixing using this code, going to drop an icon in with this. COPY "%systemdrive%\install\hotfixes\qllinks\*.lnk" "%Userprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch" @ drthawhizkid perhaps you could post your cmd\ini thanks