dvd readers are so cheap thesedays, everyone who is addicted to games should have one, a legit game is around $50, the dvd readers cost less than that.. a dvd writer is $90 thesedays. doom3 doesn't have dvd version, ut2004 has up to my knowledge. @alanoll, so u were those lucky bastards that got the collectors edition of ut2004 , they released a few of them....