Tomcat76

Hey Nathan... I just downloaded your file for Flash8 (IE) and will test it soon. Prior to reading this thread, I found another thread on the MM support forums by someone who had troubles getting Flash to install silently. Someone replied, saying that the topic starter should go through the licensing thingee, after which he'd get other installers. I did the same and downloaded the files I needed. I already had a non-licensed full MSI installer for Flash8 so I tried that first. I created an executable with IExpress with the following command: msiexec /i flash8ie.msi /qb! Then I made another executable for the licensed MSI of Shockwave 10, using this command: msiexec /i shwave10.msi /qb! Both installers worked fine when I tested them on an existing installation of Windows, but failed during a fresh installation made with HFSLIP. Flash 8: Internal error Shockwave 10: Network communication error I hope I'll get better results with your file and I can't wait for the Shockwave installer.....

Yzöwl: I tested the code in your previous post the other day and it works too. So this one's running off the CD, right? I think I'll keep using this, then.

Search for HFNETCHK on a search engine; the first result is what you're after (at least on Yahoo, Google and MSN Search). Somewhere on the page, there's the green text "Download now"; it's a direct link to the file.

You're welcome.

Just wondering... I downloaded the silent installer and installed it first to test. An additional folder is created inside Microsoft.NET, but I didn't find any shortcuts to the new version (there are links to v1.1 in Administrative Tools but not for v2.0). Is this normal?

You can get it off the Windows Update Catalog site: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/

Having both run off the CD would probably be the cleanest solution. If not, copy to a temporary folder, run from there and then delete the folder. Edit... There's another advantage to having it run off the CD: I have my main drive in four partitions: C, D, E and F, and the opticals are G and H. I'm installing Windows off of H. I still have the HFSLIP folders on drive E. Who's telling me that post-setup commands are run off the CD?

Perfection. Thanks!

This is a minor thing but it would be nice if this were implemented when you have some time to spare. The issue at hand is the path to CMDOW.EXE inside SVCPACK\HFSLIP.CMD (second line). This path is created while running HFSLIP, and the drive letter depends on where the Windows system is located from which the HFSLIP program is run. Eg., when running HFSLIP from a system that's installed on the C: drive, HFSLIP will use this as the second line in SVCPACK\HFSLIP.CMD: IF EXIST C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\CMDOW.EXE cmdow @ /HID This works if the new system will be installed on the C: drive, but not if it's going to be installed on a different drive. In that case, CMDOW.EXE will not be found, which in turn makes its integration useless. I'm now editing SVCPACK\HFSLIP.CMD manually after the program has run so the second line reads like this: IF EXIST %SYSTEMROOT%\SYSTEM32\CMDOW.EXE cmdow @ /HID It works great. Do you think it's worth altering the HFSLIP program to do this automatically?

Got it, and it's not related to WU4 and/or OU. http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=59997

OK... This is it. 1) opuc.dll and opuc.inf from the Office Update CAB go in CODECS 2) iuctl.cat, iuctl.dll and iuctl.inf from the WU4 CAB go in WIN\SYSTEM32 HFSLIP takes care of registering WU4 while registering WU6 (WUA 2.0). It's important to leave out iuengine.dll from the WU4 CAB package because it's an older version than the one from WU6. If you leave that one in, HFSLIP will register WU4 but not WU6. Meanwhile, CMDOW.EXE ceased to hide the HFSLIP window during installation. I don't know if it's an (obvious) error on my part or a side effect from adding the OU and WU4 files in. Will be back.

Great. Only two issues: 1) During Windows setup, I'm being asked for the location of iuctl.dll. It thinks it's in WINNT\HFSLIP whereas it's in WINNT\SYSTEM32. I've changed the path manually. 2) WU4 and Office Update work like a charm, but WU6 seems screwed up by this. I'll test some more in the days to come and will post back. Thanks for putting me on the right track.

Thanks... and sorry for my earlier comment.

That's indeed easy. Thanks.

As a matter of fact, FDV's site doesn't say at all where HFEXPERT should go. I've read the "hidden instructions" several times. I didn't want to pollute the board with another thread. But thanks... I'll keep it in mind.

I want to integrate Flash 8. It's an MSI file, so I figured I could place this in HF (per the instructions on FDV's site).

Is this WU v4? Would you mind telling me how you've found it? I've searched for these somewhere during the summer for more than an hour and then gave up out of frustration...

.1 OK. Strange that nobody else said something about it. Maybe they were already using HFEXPERT before. I'll blame my understanding of the English language, then... .2 Thanks. Just wanted to know...

<sarcasm>If I go to Windows Update, I can also get v6.</sarcasm> I want to HFSLIP them just like I HFSLIPped v6.

I've put MSICabExtract.exe and MSICabExtract.txt inside HFTOOLS. The HF folder contains one MSI file, but it's not being processed if I can believe ERROR_REPORT.TXT (the file is not in the list of files for the HF folder). The file's name is install_flash_player_active_x.msi. In a second attempt, I've renamed the file to flash8ie.msi thinking it maybe has to be in the 8:3 format but it didn't help. Am I doing something wrong or is the file not supported?

Just a quick note here. I've PM'd you but I thought I'd mention this here as well. I've been testing this for a while, and the only place I could get HFEXPERT to work is when it's placed inside HFSLIP, not alongside it. I see nobody is mentioning this... Am I the only one? The pop-up window doesn't stay into view anymore, but it still flickers briefly in the beginning. Is this expected behavior?

Could anyone tell me where to find (and download) the installation files for Windows Update v4 (needed for Windows Update Catalog) and Office Update (for updating Office)? A search on the boards didn't show any relevant results.... Thanks.

Bingo... I've found a solution for both my problems. The actual culprit is the AC3Filter / DirectShow decoder. Two versions are included in these codec packages of which version 1.01a RC5 is the default. Changing that to version 0.70b fixes all problems (and I can keep the Frauenhofer codec in). So here's what I'm after now... - the mega pack, but with a different version of the AC3 filter and newer QT & Real codecs (I just checked and the Real codecs are also outdated) - Media Player Classic PLUS Windows Media Player 6.4 (ie, don't overwrite mplayer2.exe) - add M4A to the list of extensions into the "MPEG4 FILE" category (MPC plays them fine with the mega pack but the type is not created)

We're getting somewhere... First off, I was talking about the "full" version as the alternative to the mega pack. The "lite" in "K-Lite" probably got me on the wrong track. I've installed the full pack about an hour ago, but the problem occured then as well. After a bit of testing, it appears that the Frauenhofer MP3 codec (of either package) is responsible for the problem I'm experiencing. Unticking MP3 during installation fixes it. There's one other problem I haven't noticed before. MP3 files (don't know about other formats yet) stutter right in the beginning of the song. This I found out playing back a few files which don't have a silent "lead in". As with the other issue, it only happens in the Power User account. I still need to figure out what's causing this one. It's for sure something in the codec package as uninstalling it completely makes the stuttering go away as well.

I'm not removing it...