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That's valid. Although a simple HOSTS file block would not be a violation. Also, the "CVE Vulnerability" (which also exists for MalwareBytes, AVG, Avast, McAfee, Norton, etc!) is REMOVED COMPLETELY by a registry entry that removes the "unique ID string". The CVE Report against Kaspersky (and MalwareBytes, AVG, Avast, McAfee, Norton, etc!) is NOT about Kaspersky "collecting data", it's about linking that harvested data to a unique ID string that points to "a person". MalwareBytes has CVE Reports for the same! So does AVG! So does Avast! So does McAfee! So does Norton! Et cetera. Some users are okay with this sort of "data". Doesn't Windows Update also do this? There's no MSFN Boycott on Windows Updates. In fact, we go out of our way to "make it work" instead.
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Agreed! But let's be fair and open. Firefox, SRWare Iron, etc is not secure by default, the end user has to take steps to make it secure. 360Chrome is not secure by default, MSFN went through great lengths to create a version we are comfortable using. The same CAN be done for Kaspersky. And it is a valid topic of discussion for this thread.
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You have no authority to do this. This thread is about security programs for XP that work. Kaspersky is one of them. That is not a "praise".
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That is true. Because I do not use nor believe in anti-virus products. That said, it IS the anti-Kaspersky talks that have me INSTALLING IT on a laptop "to witness for myself". I am not "praising" Kaspersky. In fact, it's the opposite. My view (from past experience) is that ALL anti-virus programs do what we often point out in regards to Kaspersky. I am installing it! Among a couple others. By all means, please tell me exactly which ones to install. My goal is to install only THREE and one of those three MUST be Kaspersky.
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True, but let's not hide those concerns under the rug for OTHER anti-virus programs. Let's NOT act like Kaspersky is the only offender. McAfee is equally "offensive" and I may end up posting the same sort of "DLL H3LL" screencap later this weekend. How many .dll's does AVG use? How many additional "processes" listed in Task Manager? Et cetera. I view it along the lines of “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?" Pointing out the Kaspersky Plank while pretending sawdust doesn't exist in other products is "misleading".
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@UCyborg kind of beat me to the punch. I have an XP Era Correct laptop (Dell Latitude D830) that I spent last night formatting and creating four partitiions. One partition is for shared data, the other three are for a "triple boot XP" setup. Boot into first partition and you have an untouched default-install XP x86 SP3 (no POSReady, maybe later) installation with Anti-Virus "Brand X". Boot into second partition and you have an untouched default-install XP x86 SP3 (no POSReady, maybe later) installation with Anti-Virus "Brand Y". Boot into third partition and you have an untouched default-install XP x86 SP3 (no POSReady, maybe later) installation with Anti-Virus "Brand Z". My next step was to install anti-virus onto each partition, with one being KASPERSKY. The informed reader needs information. Let's seek to supply actual INFORMATION. Again, a many MANY thanks to @UCyborg for starting an INFORMATIVE discussion.
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It will not work for the XP crowd, and do not attempt on your actual OS but use a VM instead, but official "upstream" is at v114 as of a week or so ago. I've ported portions into English but find it to be SLOWER then Ungoogled Chromium v114. Getting it into a workable ENGLISH web browser would be an extreme undertaking. Since Ungoogled Chromium is faster and with tons of web browsers available once you are at an OS that is required for newer "upstream" anyway, I'm seeing ZERO need to undertake such a project. Though v114 does not solve Weppy Scare anyway, it's only an indication that upstream is still evolving.
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It's the only effective solution for this. Been using it for twenty years! Long Live Proxo.
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Pleasse count the .dll's for other anti-virus programs and report back your findings on them also. McAfee for one is also very big into this "DLL file invasion and abuse". Taking this thread to such "anti-Kaspersky" extremes serves your viewers a dis-service and not a "service". What @UCyborg posted is of USEFUL IMPORTANCE and is INFORMATIVE to the viewer. We need more of THAT instead of useless "massive security concern" innuendos without actual proof or verification.
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Totally agreed. It's like anti-alias sub-pixel fonts. I get migraines from anti-alias sub-pixel fonts and most of my coworkers can't even "see" the difference. I've also noticed those crappy quality images even here at MSFN. But they weren't .webp at the time, they were .png images and it was tied to what they used in order to do the screencap. It doesn't seem that widespread to me. My news and financial web sites don't rely on .webp as they are not that graphic-intensive. And I don't do games, so no frame of reference there. It is extremely surprising that even if I set up an "accept" header that should indicate "don't serve me weppy", the web sites IGNORE the "accept" header and serve them anyway.
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It's still version 86 under the hood and the letters "webp" do not exist in the changelog.
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Actually, allow me to rephrase that. We (the sort of folks that become members of forums such as MSFN) may not agree on MVPS Hosts versus hardware firewall versus software firewall versus real-time full-time anti-virus versus on-demand malware scans versus Proxomitron versus uBO versus uMatrix versus DoH versus NoScript verus HTTPS Everywhere versus a hundred different things, but what we all do have in common is that we do Practice Safe Hex in our own preferred ways. I'll use uBO as an example. While this "Weppy Scare" does supposedly exist "in the wild", my hunch is that their is a uBO "list" that already safeguards from the "in the wild" web site that technically only exists "in theory". I wouldn't mind knowing EXACTLY where this "in the wild" actually IS. But they never seem to tell you that, it's just the normal "update now!" routine, "You are not safe unless you update now! Update your OS! Update your browser! Update Now!" "Blah blah blah" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfJhMfOPWdE
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This is not going to be "for everyone", some folks believe in every "scare tactic" thrown at them. But "for me", I'm opting to do NOTHING in regards to this Weppy Scare. My computer does NOT protect against Meltdown and Spectre and it will also NOT protect against Weppy. We used to have a saying, "Practice Safe Hex". I've never been hit with a virus or malware and I don't visit the sorts of web sites where one is prone to these "dark shadows". To each their own, of course. But to me, this is just hype and propaganda. Much ado about nothing. Mileage may vary.
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To be honest, I have opted to do NOTHING. I'm not in the least bit concerned with all of this recent "hype and propaganda" regarding .webp. To each their own, of course. But to ME, it's nothing more than any other virus or malware out there that has never hit my machines. Reminds me of back in the day when I was a "church goer" and everybody knew I could fix computers so everybody would have me fix them for them. You'd get the same people over and over again. To the point that you FINALLY have to tell them (due to the items discovered on their computers), "You wouldn't get these if you stopped visiting p0rn sites." Sure, there is always the THEORY that .webp could come in via a third-party "advertisement" that your otherwise SAFE web site wouldn't otherwise have, but these 'in the wild" reports DON'T WORK THAT WAY.
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Confirmed, sadly. In newer versions of Ungoogled Chromium, there is a flag to set your "accept" header (ie, for those that don't use Proxomitron). The "gallery test page" displays these webp images whether the "accept" header indicates the browser can render webp or not. But I also wonder if this "gallery test page" is even sending true .webp images because IE8 does not support webp and this "gallery test page" shows these .webp images even with an IE8 useragent and client hints disabled. Though I am also on Win10 at the moment so unsure if that is playing a factor.
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Future of Chromium on older Windows 10 versions and RTM.
NotHereToPlayGames replied to Dixel's topic in Windows 10
Agreed. Coincidence ≠ Proof Q.E.D. -
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So Schrödinger's cat is both alive and dead, got it. -
Agreed. A very easy fix using Proxomitron. At least it should be, I haven't tried as of yet.
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I do this via Proxomitron. But for the non-Proxo 360Chrome user, I can follow @Dixel's suggestion and upload a revision within the next day or two. I'd likely only upload a new rev for build 13.5.2036 as it is the only version I still use. Unknown which versions we still have MSFN Members using.
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to Dixel's topic in Windows 10
Agreed. That's my take also. Until when-and-only-when we see a Google Bug Report specifically cite MSFN, then NO, they don't base their development from our "rants". Same goes for REDDIT. I promise you, and any search engine is "the proof is in the pudding", for every ONE "rant" regarding Google here at MSFN, there are TWO HUNDRED over at Reddit. Google isn't "listening" to Reddit as far as altering development as far as trying to "prevent bad PR". I kind of think we "see ourselves" as much more "influential" than we really are. "Nobody is listening." -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to Dixel's topic in Windows 10
So I guess the question is technically a "yes or no" question. Would a mathematical mind that follows the Scientific Method claim a gigantic software company makes software decisions based on posts here at MSFN that THEORETICALLY could be "data-mined" by AI as part of Google's marketing department agenda to "avoid bad PR"? -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to Dixel's topic in Windows 10
A fellow MSFN Member is claiming that the reason that Chrome version 119 works in Windows 10 1507 is because the creators of Chrome read MSFN posts and was afraid of bad PR if they didn't make v119 work in 1507. The claim is that it is just too much of a coincidence for this to have happened without Google reading MSFN posts and making software decisions based on those posts. No taking sides! -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to Dixel's topic in Windows 10
I will accept @AstroSkipper's perspective on this - but he cannot "agree with you just because it is you", WAY too much of that going on here at MSFN. Him being a mathematician will surely not accept "theoretical speculative heresay" over mathematic logic and reasoning. That is, if he's even inclined to comment. Totally up to him, of course. This "theoretical speculative heresay" would never hold up "in court of law", as the saying goes. Under a paradigm of theoretical speculative arguments, one must admit that one can claim ANYTHING that they want, no matter how far-fetched, and place it under an umbrella of "theoretical cause and effect" versus a true Scientific Approach. I'm being serious, just ponder for a moment the MOUNTAINS of arguments one could EASILY pass off as "reality" if speculation and "the help of AI" were our Litmus Test. *I* could claim that *I* invented anti-lock brakes because I slid off the road in the Winter of 1970 and posted something at MSFN regarding the incident and that post was THEORETICALLY "data mined" before the term AI ever became mainstream. We like to claim Google reads MSFN and creates google-isms based on that reading - sorry, it's not happening, it's just our minds creating our own reality. The difference between reality, illusion, and imagination is not that big of a psychological concept - the difference exists solely within one's mind. My mind. Your mind. Insert-name-here's mind. I work in Engineering. If there isn't DATA and NUMBERS to "back it up", then it doesn't exist.