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But my BOTTOM LINE remains the same! Don't let your KIDS inherit a garage full of "reusable junk" that you yourself haven't touched in FORTY YEARS. That's NOT "thankless" or "cold hearted", it's just "reality". If you want YOUR stuff "reused", then do NOT hand it over to the next generation and have them sift through junk that even antique shops cannot unload!

Too funny! I literally edited my post to say "reuse" and we posted at the same time. We're on the same page, lol.

Sorry. I'm from a family of six kids. So I mispoke. "Recycle" to me is when my older brother doesn't use his bicycle anymore so I claim it as my own. How many people would have known what I was talking about if I said to "garage sale it" ? I did mean "reuse" versus "recycle".

I agree also. I did not say to put it in the dumpster. I said to recyle it Guess my point is that if it took our parents EIGHTY YEARS to collect "stuff", why put our kids in the position of having to spend MONTHS upon MONTHS of sorting through two spare bedrooms, a two-car garage with no room for a car and barely enough room for a lawnmower, and an attic of "junk" ??? I have no intention of spending TWENTY YEARS of retirement years sorting though my PARENT'S junk! Because a MONTH or so in, I'll rent a DUMPSTER because I'm not spending that "time" to sift through "collectibles" that nobody in my generation "wants". My generation is more "mobile", we tend to me "minimalists". We have our own share of "junk", don't get me wrong. But not two spare bedrooms, a two-car garage, and an attic of "stuff" that hasn't been touched for FORTY YEARS. Just calling it like I see it.

Findings like this are to be expected (we are "filtering" the web page). It's why we have bypass lists. For MSFN, I don't use any bypass lists but do use the Proxomitron Menu (click on a web page and you access it from the lower right corner). For the MSFN reply box, you can enable it this way --

Sometimes it's just "time to". I don't believe in a "throwaway society", my everyday belt is the same belt I wore in the 90s. But us Americans especially, we tend to collect a lot of "junk". I support "recycling" so most of my stuff doesn't land in a "dumpster", but sometimes "junk is junk". "Baby Boomers" are particulary bad. They are the offspring of parents that lived through the Great Depression (I knew one that put WATER on her breakfast cereal instead of MILK). Gen X'ers, Y's, Millenials - we don't want your "junk". I know far too many in my generation "saddled" with inheriting 3 bedroom houses where two of the bedrooms, the garage, and the attic is nothing but miles upon miles of JUNK. I'm not trying to sound insensitive or heartless - but do us a favor and unload your own junk and don't make us recycle it for you. Speaking colloquially, of course. You/your is not a "person", but a collective-whole. But anywhoo...

Totally agree! Microsoft is sitting in their offices just LAUGHING, "They'll never dethrone us, you can NOT win over 'public opinion' when you have over 600 distros and 500 in active development! We can't even get 'public opinion' to agree on 10 versus 11!" You know, kinda like "What's the best way to win a 2-party election? Easy, throw in a 3rd-party candidate to split votes with one of the two parties!"

Updated link for "base config" download updated in download post -- https://msfn.org/board/topic/183295-web-browser-proxomitron-reborn-ptrongui-a-how-to-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1211614 File Date == 01-26-2022

Everything should be working in Serpent 52 now that port 8443 versus port 443 has been resolved.

Also learned a cool debug trick. Execute the command tasklist in Command Prompt (or what I like to call "The Matrix" because I changed my font color to green-on-black). This will give you the "PID" number for Proxomitron.exe. Execute the command netstat -ano | find "PID" (include the quotes but replace with PID#) to debug the port info for Proxomitron.exe (note that my PID changed midway through these screencaps because I exited, made changes, then relaunched Proxomitron).

I'll be adding screencaps for an Serpent 52 setup. Disregard. Credit to JJoe and amy over TUOPF - they have resolved the port 443 versus port 8443 issue and I'll be uploading an updated config later this morning.

So do I on my bank sites. But they're pretty much about the only sites that I get a "green" padlock. I'm exaggerating, of course. But look up at your address bar right now - MSFN has been "red" for close to a year. Doesn't stop us from visiting MSFN or even logging in, now does it?

ps - it's all relative. I've always felt more "secure" behind NoScript + uMatrix + MVPS Hosts and a red "padlock" than I have ever felt behind a "bare" web browser and a green "padlock"

It's an evolutionary process. It has been my understanding that "nobody" in the last YEAR (at least!) has had a consistant "green https" in XP. Proxomitron / ProxHTTPSProxy do not have TLS 1.3 support (yet!). I suspect that a consistant "green https" will not happen until then.

You may need to set your 3 to 2. Did the certificate import successfully? Try these command line switches (at least just temporarily) and see if it works then - --enable-local-file-accesses --allow-insecure-localhost --allow-running-insecure-content

I did find a NoScript alternative called Sybu JavaScript Blocker that would allow Proxomitron scripts while blocking domain scripts but it did not know the difference between bing.com and r.bing.com. It blocked the scripts coming from r.bing.com but didn't even see (and so it allowed them) the scripts coming from bing.com. I've actually abandoned NoScript in favor of Proxomitron - but my fear is that long-time users of NoScript will not give Proxomitron a chance if the two cannot "play in the same sandbox".

Regarding ad-blocking - I personally block all javascript by default and only allow white-listed javascript so that alone blocks the vast majority of ads. But I do acknowledge that such an approach is not for everyone - and that's the power of Proxomitron, fully customizable to the exact needs of its user. You can allow javascript but still block ads through the use of all of the lists - for that approach you may wish to enable and experiment with some of the filters in the "||| Ads" section.

Proxomitron's ad-blocking is almost entirely based on lists. If you right-click on top of the Proxomitron systray icon, a context menu will open and you can see we have 11 lists which all target specific ad methods. You can open/view all of these lists to get a general idea of how they target ads.

Neither Proxomitron, nor Proxomitron Reborn, nor ProxHTTPSProxy, nor ProxHTTPSProxyMII support TLS 1.3. If your browser lacks TLS 1.2 or 1.3, none of them will add TLS 1.2 or 1.3. If your browser does support TLS 1.3, using any of them will disable that support and drop you down to TLS 1.2. It is my understanding that the developer of Proxomitron Reborn does plan on adding TLS 1.3 in the future and she remains active on the Un-Official Proxomitron Forum.

As far as MSFN's reply-box keylogger, it is blocked without any additional filters. I've verified this in "Advanced Mode" (the default mode is "Standard Mode", I did not test in "Standard Mode"). You change "mode" using the Headers button - And you can manually "activate" the keylogger (for those that want the "feature") by clicking on the "timer" button in the lower left corner - The "listen: click" button is because I also activate the "Be more restrictive" Web Filter -

ps - I do still need to find a solution for, as an example, allowing Proxomitron javascript on www.bing.com without allowing bing.com javascript on www.bing.com as far as NoScript is concerned. Saving that for another day.

Hip Hip Hooray. For those that have been patiently waiting, the first several posts of this thread are now good-to-go as far as a guide on getting Proxomitron configured properly. Not sure how much interest there is for Proxomitron, hopefully there will at least be a few We should be able to use this thread as a Q & A. One of these days, I'll post a filter that breaks the "keylogger" in this reply box - just as an example that we can all relate to. I may end up doing some YouTube / Google / Bing filters along the way also.

What .CPL files do you have in Windows \ System32 ?

We may have found a solution. Still testing...

The developer of Proxomitron "Reborn" claims that I should not need ProxHTTPSProxyMII - but there is clearly a difference in how .css and .js are "injected" into web pages. Consider this project on-hold until the developer of Proxomitron "Reborn" and I can discuss various nuances on-the-side.