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ty notheretoplaygames in the first 2 pictures i can see 2 different things at the first upper picture the "file edit view history bookmarks tools help" looks like a menu having that at the spot of the "window title" then "file edit view history bookmarks tools help" has gone downwards its no longer at the part of the "window title" instead at the window title now it has "Customize r3dfox -- eclipse r3dfox" and below it shows "file edit view history bookmarks tools help" it very much look to a menu in your second post you are showing v151 where the windows title is not showing "Customize r3dfox -- eclipse r3dfox" instead it shows what it shows in the fast picture the menu "file edit view history bookmarks tools help" is at the window title in the second post the second picture does not show a differens so we can discard this one that also refers to a common problem devlopers often have (also supermium) often something is coming in like "this dont work- then like nothing else - no pictures - not where it happens - not how it happens - not even what the problem is - and often the most important: how it is to reconstruct to happening" - but rather you need to reconstruct the error - so you can see what the problem is

the title bar is there with correct names and reacting correct ? dont sound to bad for me it somewhat looks like the window title bar - i dont know if NotHereToPlayGames means that if it is that problem there are solutions that draw a "tab like title bar" - sumatra pdf use one for example, if that is the problem it certainly is solveable maybe someone put up the right pictures - like version before - like chrome 151 normal on win10 (representing a visable working picture, so everybody know what is meant), how it looks on redfox (might already be posted), a normwise representation what is suppose to be or how it suppose to look like

from what i remember "in the wild" was a description for commercial buiness style guys useally they have something they dont like/want (like XP) also useally the meaning exits that only they are professionals and only their work and what they want should exits (again xp is such an example, they do not want to have it, the title in the c-runtime question was changed from "getting rid of xp" to "Remove XP (and Server 2003) support") - that shows what they want - they could have keept it - but they dont - "they are the professionals - they "should" decide how this is going on" so now if something was around they called it exits "somewhere in the wild" - what they cant get rid of so easy, but they useally always try you are leaving them a possible option to remove your programm "from the wild" by tolerating Not_A Brand with "version 8" - this one should be changeable - or at some point they will use this one in the past i pointed out to build in the the user agent (build in no plugins) would be a good idea - now that theory is proofen to be right we are not a company, we are not a big concern, we are not microsoft i think modders, retro, maybe open source stuff rather would describe this kind of software around here but the stuff around here often actually is good, its not like that here are dump people or something rather its the opposite

do you maybe know know why this dont work ? https://msfn.org/board/topic/187777-new-and-probably-a-lot-faster-installer/ it dont come from the installer itself - as the normal one from microsoft also has the same problem (both IE8 alone and IE8+upgrades) for example youtube.com dont open - it just says "connection failed" theoldnet.com is opening, but its not a modern website and dont explain why youtube dont but if i use a common sp3 iso, the websites like youtube.com are opening - they are not fully functional - but it dont just say "connection failed" sp3 from a iso : https://ibb.co/tP2K2nk7 IE8 either installer (untouched) from microsoft or from my installer: https://ibb.co/t10jkBD im not trying to get the IE8 back, we have chrome - but i wonder what is going wrong here

that is a kernel extender it seems to be a overkill just for file read tool - why it cant make a simple text string with normal code it might have been compiled with a newer version of visual studio 2019 i thought i might talked about this already https://msfn.org/board/topic/182888-how-vs-makes-working-code-still-incompatible/ the vistual studio 2019 v16.1 to v16.7 dont have that problem - all after 16.8 - 16.11 have that trick inside it is a hidden .obj file, where in the c-runtime code/ucrt/std depening on how we call this is forced to being used you can see the header and cpp files - but if you edit them it never reads that code - instead it always force to use that .obj file - what is precompiled with that code that use vista+ functions as said in that article that compiler makes a code that runs without your code and it runs before your programm is starting up (and there are these missing functions - even if they are not used in your code)

only one thing is missing then, in "Not_A Brand" there is a last version at the end, it has a 8 there

https://ibb.co/s9GjRTzb so far good job, as suspected these are often the same values and are connected to each others - also as expected unlike the plugin the source code often change both up the 3 in brands are snipped together you can definatly tell - this not a brand maybe needs a small rework as it dont show something like "8" to me it shows version 99 (but i have a unchanged official chrome 109 on that windows 7 machine) that not a brand apears again in sec-ch-us-full-version-list again with a oddly weird version of "8 " Sec-CH-UA-Platform-Version also shows me "0.1.0" not 10.0.0 - i dont know if thats a normal value either for supermium or that chrome browser i use (it might be bugged - but i can say its unchanged) so i would say finding what makes that value 8 is the only missing thing at the moment the legacy string you have not shown us, maybe that one is imperfect but so far again - well job

an alternativ that always will work is www.virustotal.com when you downloaded something you can upload it there but more likely it already has been uploaded, in this case you get the results by instant after that you useally can open it up safely

it seems these are somewhat all called somewhat "user agent (UA)" for the normal UA a function is offered by the browser in this case supermium then somewhat it either talks about java offering these values or HTTP both are controlled by the browser either way it is very likely they access the same data just with a different request form (that has to be in the browser) why would there be a problem to find where these strings maybe values are stored ? they dont look very different to me: https://browserleaks.com/client-hints#client-hints-description then you already find a description (and unlikely a plugin you have the source-code - something far beyond a plugin) https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/NavigatorUAData/getHighEntropyValues navigator.userAgentData .getHighEntropyValues ([ "architecture", "model", "platformVersion", fullVersionList", ]) then somewhat "Low entropy hints" https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Guides/Client_hints they are part of HTTP thats a old protocol for webbrowsers microsoft offers this code in short: userAgentData.getHighEntropyValues(["platformVersion"] then: majorPlatformVersion = parseInt(ua.platformVersion.split('.')[0]); (ua probaly mean user agent - while this is going into majorplattformversion) (this makes it move to majorplattformversion) then: if (majorPlatformVersion >= 13) https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/web-platform/how-to-detect-win11 "User-Agent Client Hints (recommended) - Sec-CH-UA HTTPS header navigator.userAgentData JavaScript method" "User-Agent string (legacy) - User-Agent HTTPS header navigator.userAgent JavaScript method" so the 2 java methods are: navigator.userAgent and navigator.userAgentData

but that is not some kind of joke ? why would it be a problem to changes a few lines of code if (has_unwanted_user_agent) close_connection(); if (has_unwanted_client_hints) close_connection();

first : did you change the client hints (all)? second : why would someone cloudflare whatever not use both (user agent, and client hints) - sounds the most simple solution to me third: its not possible to hide it some outside java.dll or something. the executable/browser/chrome has to give that values to the next engine (whatever it is winhttp, winsock, maybe something else? - nobody cares) if this would not be the case every chrome version could not give it to something next so it must be in chrome itself - its rather about finding where these values are handled - and then being changed forth: you have shown a nice skill, why it actually would fail on something like this ? you litterally got the code around and the compiler search functions can find something like this - the rest is about compiling and testing (there are test websites also for the last part)

ok then just change these too, they are probaly some strings somewhere you have the source code you probaly can search its connections, my computer is not very fast chrome in v110 or something already took 2 weeks to compile - but with a compiler and compiled i could certainly change these, so i think you can do this too

we have to be more specific then https://www.useragents.me/ https://deviceatlas.com/blog/list-of-user-agent-strings these are suppose to be changed rightly not just one of them, what ones are missing? if the client-hints are missing why they are not changed either way? https://browserleaks.com/client-hints

wasnt there a user agent switcher ? j7n talked about it quite often - or why it cant be changed - it actually has to be somewhere in the code

about that one if its not a event problem, how about a debug version - chrome compiles slow for me like 2 weeks but advance debug information should show where this come from

https://msfn.org/board/topic/186953-supermium/page/151/#comment-1287479 windows offer functions for directorys often they are sniffed together they offer like C:\ - (rootdrive) C:\windir - (aka C:\windows) the others are then sniffed together like C:\windows + \spool = C:\windows\spool %windir%\system32\DllCache = C:\windows\system32\DllCache ExpandEnvironmentStrings is a such core function a other is SHGetSpecialFolderPathA https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/processenv/nf-processenv-expandenvironmentstringsa https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/shlobj_core/nf-shlobj_core-shgetspecialfolderpatha %ProgramFiles% (probaly like rootdrive (c:\) + (Program Files) = c:\Program Files %ProgramFiles(x86)% for example is not for x86 its a folder for 64 bit OS on 32 bit this function fails %APPDATA% for example is different in XP to win7 but in xp it is C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data with %ProgramFiles%, %APPDATA%,%SystemDrive%,%ALLUSERSPROFILE% and %windir% - you probaly can make all the folders you need also often this strings are often stored somewhere in the registry

to me it tends to have a classical problem the thing with the open source suppose to be free, and allowed to be used by anyone with 1 exception, if the use is commercial but that is not was always has happend at some point like youtube like google - they got buyed or rather this open source thing is not what open source represents anymore so microsoft "buyed(probaly only contributed)" chrome and made edge out of it, youtube is full of ad´s now (while there was not a single ad in the past - how can it work if in the past this worked well ?) also they offer streaming to buy - also not very "past-youtube" like - also the realname must, real email, smartphone ect. so the rather defintion - they switched the side - now they are just a commercial company - like microsoft - microsoft is a good example because they never where open source - open source was a challenge for commercial companys like linux vs microsoft exactly this has happend in all of the past of open source history ... so if they see this "oh well now i like it and we buy it - everything changes" = commercial buisness/company (thus they can always eat up open source - and this is what always has happened) and this is not what open source community was made for it just was : challenge to commercial buisness, free, allowed to use for everybody (and 1 exception for commercial use) now instead just the big companys and the company´s use these things - so by the definition thats what they are now i think thats basicly also the problem - as long they was the elder-definition all of these things did not happen also i want to point out its like a steal they buy it up at some point and then they use it for their purpose so open source has nothing and company has everything - again

interesting since when it works for windows xp ? it once was only win7 i special like this one WebGL hardware acceleration - it suppose to speed up the video playback quite a lot

youtube dont play on that "ISO IE8" either but it opens a website: https://ibb.co/93VK03sm - somewhat it is working - like on many other websites they are not fully functional dont get me wrong im not trying to make IE8 to a IE11 or Chrome v150 so that youtube works tls1.3 directly into IE8 (rather then a proxy - maybe a nice checkbox like it has for tls1.1 and tls1.2) would be a idea but since there is chrome version 150 for windows xp - that would raise questions to do so what i was trying to do it to test out the installer for function, so i looked up that windows update catalog for the biggest of all the upgrades available - and that was the IE8 (blank) installer with around 17 MB size then it seems to have fully functioned - so i tryed out the IE8 - to compare results i have tryed a .iso with IE8 (that one opens at least in parts) it dont seem to be a problem of the installer from me - because in this case the normal IE8 installer from microsoft would have worked so i was wondering what really is doing that difference

its the same result

i have a little problem with it, i dont know so exactly where that problem comes from i have tryed some websites, but only a few are working like theoldnet.net or Toastytech.com then i compared the results for google.com or youtube.com with a common sp3 iso (that has the IE8) here it comes up with a certificate question, then it opens up the website partly functional https://ibb.co/tP2K2nk7 but when i do that with my installer always this happens: https://ibb.co/t10jkBD there is just no certificate warning, it just says always connections failed now the tricky part - to determinate if that can come from my installer - i tryed the orginal IE8 installer from microsoft itself and again just connection failed no certificate questions - so its not a problem of the installer itself then i tryed a certificate upgrade (to be precise this one:) https://www.file-upload.net/download-15599016/rootsupd.exe.html but that also did not do the trick - it just says nothing about certificate´s - just connection failed what im doing wrong ? or what is going wrong here

its nice to have a other chrome for windows xp, seems that i was mistaken i wasnt looking for e3kskoy7wq´s browser because the title just says something about win7 "Firefox and Chromium running on Windows 7 by e3kskoy7wqk" but i tryed it out, it definitely works, the performance looks a bit slower but that is probaly a other discussion i also looked for the v54 i had in mind in the past it seems to be made by TaoKaiZen, where this skia discussion in the past was around https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2018/01/advanced-chrome-542065300.html

you can compile it up yourself ? it is open source the link you showed is not for windows XP its for windows 7, its not a chinese version above supermium windows have internal numbers where XP is version 5.1 it came to a lot of changed when gone to 6.0 (vista) 6.1 (windows7) and 6.2 (aka win8 and 8.1), windows 10 suppose to be 6.3 but they called it 10 win7 is not far away from 8 and therefore not far from 10, while going back to xp is a lot more, windows 7 is just a improved vista

supermium is still an elite achievement, i remember the discussions with the Skia Engine in a Chinese forum "TAO-KAISEN" or something like that. here the discussion was still with Chrome 49 - that was the last official version of Chrome to XP. they actually failed to revert it back to GDI, but I had made it back then - since then I haven't seen the website anymore. Only then did I see many Chrome versions appear for XP from version 49 to 144 is way of a gap the jump is like very huge i wonder it even got that far actually there is also the firefox question, but it seems that things are not easy there either - but people are trying - from what i remember it was over 320 functions without the one-core.dll´s (not the one core api from sam) with one-core.dll i mean the side dll´s that compilers compile up its not simple stuff, if it would redfox would already have done the goal of v144 firefox it often sounds like every problem related in xp around can be solved in like 1 second without any problems first thing that came to mind is that xp needs a browser - if i had to choose firefox or chrome i certainly would have choosen chrome other things would be a better solution for the PAE/PSE or even more then 4 GB space in only 1 executable, the 4 k sector question, a h.266 codec, maybe WPA3, maybe a newer nvida driver, a smaller idea would be TLS1.3 for the IE8 without a proxy (but we have chrome so why) a second browser would at least be for me not on the priority list because there is one around already, first when the other things are solved then at least for me the firefox quesiton would apear if not we need just more people doing these things, then more things could be solved quickly i think everybody has a open eye what we can do for a chrome in xp, maybe you can offer some code too

not every server offers 500mbit/s often they also have a limit they can offer, therefore they often limit a speed per user sometimes the executable also dont reach a such speed, a browser is a executable if a ISP has a own test server this server might be from the ISP itself or one choosen by them while others dont reach that speed either, having 500 of 500 mbit available is a lot when i had 16k in the past i only reached about 12 k in the speed test