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Thanks again ArcticFoxie! I will save these summaries of yours, for when I have some time available to compare browsers. @j7n You are right. With the last Firefox 52.9.0 some pages just never appeared as they should. Like checkout pages. With roytam's NM28 (2018 to 2020 versions) I haven't had such issues. That is the main thing. ( For me a secondary demand is, that there is a workable color changer add-on, to prevent looking at bright white backgrounds. )

Performance tables are appreciated. Maybe it would be appropriate to make a separate topic about speeds/benchmarks of the different Windows XP browser choices? This topic is so crowded already, and not really about the "non-roytam" options.

yes: 3 AHCI mode systems: C partition FAT32 affected, about 1 to 5% of files gone. D partitions NTFS on same disk seemingly unaffected IIRC. 1 IDE mode system, same partition configuration. Not affected. I am not at home to check which 3rd party toolkit it was. And in hindsight it is obvious I should have been more careful. I was updating SSD firmware and for a moment TRUSTING that the TRIM tool would work, and could considered everything done. Tested it a bit. seemed OK. did the other systems. Then later reboot problems and me re-imaging the c-partitions.

Thanks. I am positive the extend of the filesystem damage was in no relation to any possible pending chkdsk problems. That would mean all 3 AHCI configured systems had pending chkdsk issues, and some of them loads of chkdsk issues, with windows system files. Whilst in reality, I hardly ever have such issues. In all cases it concerned a FAT32 C-partition. The NTFS D-partitions remained OK IIRC.

Using NM 28.1.0a1.win32-git-20180922 for a few weeks now. So I can make my feedback summary: 2012 Laptop with Windows XP + NM 28.8.0a1 2019-12-06 = Bit of sluggish browsing + once every few hours it can get very unresponsive. 2012 Laptop with Windows XP + NM 28.1.0a1 2018-09-22 = Bit of sluggish browsing. No problems otherwise. (Downgraded as advised) 2012 Desktop with Windows XP + NM 28.10.1a1 2020-07-04 = Reasonably responsive. No problems 2012 Desktop with Linux x64 + Firefox 82 = Noticeably faster. That last entry may be a bit snarky, but it is what I see. Know that I am thankful for what Roytam made available, I will use it regardless of the Linux boot option. EDIT: I just noticed NM 28.1.0a1 2018-09-22 looks all red in ArcticFoxie's benchmark table. But did you not advise me to use that one for a while? The one in the table is from the 21st. though, 1 day difference.

Thanks, I just imported your 3 lines into my NM28 ublock filter settings. Seems to work on Youtube, which was the only one still annoying me. So now I enabled again my old "no cookie for google search" addon. :) I also see the font graphical issue in the google translate page. I do not have gstatic.com blocked there. It was not blocked.

Yeah I found out that last part the hard way, one or two years ago. Using some tool that suggested it knew what it was doing, but in actuality wasted my time forcing me to re-image 2 systems and such. Problem was that I did not immediately notice the filesystem damage, and thought all was well, for a while. Also a system in IDE mode instead of AHCI was unnaffected. Can TRIM not be communicated in IDE mode? Or was it just a coincidence? PS. As I wrote before: I use and have used Crucial M4 drives of various subtypes/sizes under Windows XP. I update firmware once in while, but don't use manual TRIM or anything. Apart for the above trashing incident, which I blame on that software, it always works well.

I can trigger errors of this kind with just doing page-up / page-down on very simple multi-page pdf files.

The Altarsoft out of memory error seems to occur with pretty much any PDF file. Like even this one causes it http://www.pdf995.com/samples/pdf.pdf when you browse through it for like 20 seconds. Using Windows XP SP3 with all POSready updates. The system has 4GB RAM.

Jaclaz: I just tried the Altarsoft one, but it causes an out of memory error, even for quite simple pdf files? It is AltarsoftPdfReader.exe v1.2. On Windows XP Edit: Here is that older Foxit Reader version: http://www.oldversion.com/windows/download/foxit-pdf-reader-4-1-1-0805

For completeness: Foxit PDF Reader v4.1 of 2010 is really simple as well. One can just put the single executable somewhere and run it. I use it together with Sumatra. This foxit seems to be faster with some pdf ebooks, compared to Sumatra.

Although NM28 compatibility is great. I am also not satisfied with responsiveness of NM28 on my i3 Sandy Bridge laptop (4GM RAM). Even when considering that it is not a fast laptop. It has NM 28.8.0a1 from 2019-12-06. Responsiveness sometimes becomes particularly bad, and in that case closing tabs does not help. Restarting NM28 entirely usually helps. I will try the version you suggested for a while, seemingly dated 22-09-2018. I don't think it is really fair to tie office.com outlook behavior in with this, as it is particularly heavy on resources. Typing emails there is lagging behind on this laptop. I suppose it is already remarkable that office.com works at all.

Is that not the same as the Dialog option "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above" in the advanced font options? It is there in Firefox 52.9 to 81.x, as well as Current Serpent and NewMoon. In the preferences dialog. It works well, like you said, with a font of my choosing but still showing those custom icons.

Yeah, I am not really sure yet, but experiencing something similar with NewMoon 28 in the past weeks (using 28.8.0a1 2019-12-06 and 28.10.1a1 2020-07-04). Not really minutes but more like 10 to 20 seconds. Triggering me to try and close the tab that I suspect is causing it. But then it won't let me. Also windows things like show desktop (minimize all) are then unresponsive for a little while.

PS. In my spare time this week I am having fun theming Linux Solus Mate in this exact same Windows XP classic blue-grey color theme. Started with the b00merang Server 2003 theme as a base. It seems to work out pretty well.

I used three ways together: Usual Appearance control panel to select a classic theme + "ThemeActive"="0" + Tweak UI to copy over some colors to the login. Result is that I don't see any remainder of Luna XP theme anywhere. Neither do I see any default color scheme colors; using blue-grey myself as I find the white and light-grey too bright for my comfort. So AFAIK everything is customized.

For my single user computer I did it like this: HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ThemeManager "ThemeActive"="0" That disables Luna in the login screen. Then besides that Tweak UI has some options to configure login screen appearance.

Thanks. I just tested it and the toolbar is showing and working now. Nice work! I don't know if the SSE question was directed at me, but my XP systems support SSE (Sandy Bridge/ Ivy Bridge).

On my Windows XP SP3 Posready system: this v3.3 cannot show the toolbar + the document tabs are all white and show no document title? v3.1.2 works fine for me.

Epson multifunction inkjet current model WF-4740 has drivers for Windows XP x86. They are there in the Epson website driver selection dialog. Tested and works 100%. Scan driver: epson634915eu.exe (contains EpsonScan2_WF4740_64850_41_Signed, seems to be from 18-02-2020) Printing driver: epson627759eu.exe (seems to be from 31-10-2016)

I have used Crucial SSDs in Windows XP since about 2012. I did align the partitions beforehand. No problems so far. Think the longest run was a 128GB one used for almost 8 years, until I decided to put in a bigger one. The only issue I remember very well was when I used a manual trim command as offered by some utility, I tried it on four XP systems: This command immediately resulted in random data loss in 3 out of 4 systems, two of which were so affected that I had to reinstall the OS. The system not affected was an AMD one, with the SATA interface in IDE mode, the others were intel based systems.

Sorry to say: The PE patched SumatraPDF prerelease executable locks up after using it for a few minutes in Windows XP. The latest release build 3.1.2 does not have this problem.

@Sampei.Nihira Regarding SumatraPDF-prerelease-11495.exe (portable) Seems to work once you edit the version check in the PE header: Two bytes changed soon after marker "PE" 06 .. 06 to 05 .. 05.

Some Games that had a long run on XP: Combat Mission games from https://www.battlefront.com Their games do no longer work on XP since the last update CMFI v2.10 from a few days ago. It is the updated executable wrapping DRM that is probabaly the cause of this. All earlier releases and patches work on XP. Does OpenGL rendering. SpringRTS / Spring Engine Needs like four parts to get going: Lobby + Engine + Game + Maps. Also does OpenGL rendering. For Windows XP 32-bit I recommend this one: Lobby: https://springlobby.info/windows/springlobby-0.252-win32.zip ( Can use latest one with a hex edit, but that is not really needed ) Engine: http://zero-k.info/engine/win32/104.0.1-409-g07c2800.zip from April 2018 Game: Balanced Annihilation v10.11 from https://springfiles.com Maps: Any from https://springfiles.com Single player opponent AI: "RAI" Actually one can still play the latest maintenance release Spring engine 104.0.1-1455-g39f8fbd by replacing libcurl.dll with one that is compiled to run on Windows XP ( http://zero-k.info/Forum/Thread/27897 ). But then one is also forced to use Balanced Annihilation v10.24, and then AFAIK "Shard" is the only working single player AI. And that AI seems to eat up more RAM then Windows XP can handle. That was a challenge to figure out...

Thanks a lot genieautravail ! (=Genius at work?) So OpenGL and Direct3D are functioning pretty well. Good news. Now I am tempted to mess with such a A6-1450 APU system myself. I think 640x480 is a really safe recommendation. It depends a lot on the actual workload on the GPU. I can run Flatout 2 on the AMD E-350 in full HD 1920x1080 with comfortable framerate. For some games it may be desirable to add custom resolutions to the driver registry (I use 1440x1080 4:3 a lot myself) and enable GPU video scaling with "maintain aspect ratio". But alternatively one can just use Windowed mode as you are already doing. There may still be smaller issues here and there, as was my experience with different Win XP drivers for the Radeon 6xxx series. With every driver release they seem to fix some and break some. While you are at it, I can still come up with questions. - Why no Radeon Control Center? Is there a problem with it? It has some useful switches for screen-scaling and FSAA. The 2011..2012 Control Center version requires .NET 2.0. - What is the exact Radeon driver version you are using now (Supporting 8210E). - There were no visible rendering glitches while running 3Dmark2006? - Firefox 52 ESR working reliably with hardware acceleration enabled? - VideoLan VLC v3 media player working with acceleration? When I have some spare time I will try 3Dmark 2006 myself on two XP systems with Radeon 6xxx graphics, for a performance comparison.