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I have only all XP SP3 updates

I have the same problem with the certificates on version 13. On versions 12 and 11 I haven't problems with the certificates. I have the root certificates updated by various methods. Most sites cannot make a secure connection despite the fact that the certificates are up to date. Sometimes it is solved by manually installing an intermediate certificate. But in the case of MSFN forum site all the certificates are correct, however the secure connection does not occur. v12 capture v13 capture Web site unsafe connect unsafe connect Edit: I have done more tests: On MSFN.org 2 identical unzipped versions of the mod by Humming Owl A works https Another does not work https I have checked the settings and put it identical on both. Nothing has changed, one works and another doesn't. I've also tried installing the original Chinese version and it doesn't show https either On sites with problems with intermediate certificates Neither browser v13 connects with intermediate certificates

When I first start 360 Extreme Explorer english mod the browser won't let me touch any option or click anywhere. A beep sounds like the one that sounds when another window is open and you can't touch anything. To close 360 I have to force the closing with the Windows task explorer. When I open 360 for the second time everything seems to work fine.

This is a real shame https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal

The website www.clivetownsend.com works perfectly for me. I have Java 8 uptate 25 installed in Windows XP (compilation 1.8.0_25-b18). It is better that you consult the specific forum for the 360 browser. https://msfn.org/board/topic/182304-extreme-explorer-360-chromium-78-86-general-discussion/

Opera 12.18 russian mod alternative download https://disk.yandex.ru/d/HbQfEL8dnx_c7A or https://yadi.sk/d/ANkjyZ6Hfws34w

I have tried Kafan MiniBrowser. It works fine but has a problem with the RAM. Computer 1: Pentium 4 with 2 GiB RAM & PATA Disk: This only works fast up to a maximum of 5 tabs open at the same time (approximate according to web size). From there it starts working with virtual memory and you may have to wait 15 minutes when opening new pages for it to load virtual memory on the PATA hard drive. Computer 2: Core i3 with 8 GiB RAM & SSD disk: In this computer I have the Windows virtual memory disabled. This works well up to a maximum of 25 tabs open at the same time (approximate according to web size). From there it reaches the 8 GiB RAM limit, at which point the result is unpredictable: -Mini Browser Freeze -Blue screen -Windows XP processes are closed

I see now this option but it says only available in Ultimate version http://www.avantbrowser.com/download.aspx?uil=en When I install ultimate version again I don't see the option. Also, I can't navigate the Internet. Edit: The option only appears after pressing the options menu, clicking on the rendering engine, switching to Internet Explorer and after opening a web page compatible with Internet Explorer such as www.google.com Now that I see the option it just shows me: -Internet Explorer -Firefox It doesn't show me Chrome. When I try to choose Firefox it does not allow me. Some time ago I tried this browser and I think the last full version compatible with Windows XP is from a few years ago. And beware, this changes the Internet Explorer home page automatically.

You can try Borealis Navigator, the official version does not exist yet. But Roytam1 has a fork available.

Update post, Maxthon 6 is not Windows XP compatible. -Maxthon (Blink + Trident + Webkit) (Chromium 69) Official version:* https://www.maxthon.com/ * Version 6.x is not compatible with Windows XP. * Version 5.x is the last one compatible with Windows XP. Maxthon 5.3.8.2100 beta (2020-01-06) https://forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/release-notes5/%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2% A0v-5382100-r214 / Maxthom 5.3.8.2000 release (2019-10-24) https://forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/release-notes5/%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2% A0v-5382000-r213 /

Sorry. I don´t know. What is the reason for rejecting rendering by hardware?

I'm going to see how Kafan MiniBrowser works. This looks like an original Chromium 87 build with little change. Testing the configuration menu I see that the "security keys" option resets the browser. The rest works fine. It catches my attention that when browsing the Internet the Windows XP firewall jumps. I have chosen the option to reject additional network connections and it seems to still work normally. https://browser.kfsafe.cn

I enter to http://www.clivetownsend.com/ with 360 Extreme Explorer and Kafan Minibrowser without any problem.

I do not know lightspark. Webgl 2.0 compatibility can be checked here: https://html5test.com 360 Extreme Explorer is supported (chromium) New Moon is supported (mozilla) K-Meleon 76.1 is not supported (mozilla)

I don't see how to change the Trident motor

It seems to work fine (Chromium 87) and it is multilanguage. This is the web site https://browser.kfsafe.cn

I can't find MiniBrowser, can you put a link? This is from 2011 https://dmkho.tripod.com/mb/index.html I have found the Vivaldi browser to be compatible with Windows XP but it seems to use the Google Chrome engine 49.0.2623.110 can anyone give more information? Edit: Opening with 7-Zip I see it is from 2016. https://vivaldi.com As a curiosity, I add the following tools to the list: Clients that displays modern web pages in old browsers thanks to a proxy server that converts web pages into images: -Browser Service (requires own Linux server): https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice/releases/tag/v0.9.2.2 Instruction: https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice -WRP (requires own server): https://github.com/tenox7/wrp Instruction: https://github.com/tenox7/wrp Search engine that works in older browsers (showing only text) http://www.frogfind.com

The last release is from 2018-02-17. It doesn´t a browser updated. If someone wants to try you should download this github full version LunaSetup6152_ml11_gl_full.exe https://github.com/lunascape/orion-installer/releases/download/v6.15.2.27564/LunaSetup6152_ml11_gl_full.exe The webpage version is only a downloader for the Gecko and Webkit engines that does not work. It says that the Trident engine is included but it actually uses the engine from the Internet Explorer version that is installed on Windows. Gecko and Webkit are only compatible with Windows XP SP1. It is not compatible with Windows 2000.

portable version link is old version, sorry. I haven't new version link.

Due to the doubts and the incipient erroneous articles published on the Internet saying that Windows XP does not have updated browsers, I open this post indicating the complete information on all the companies or software programmers that make versions of browsers compatible with Windows XP. But first it is necessary to clarify some fundamental concepts. The first is that today there are only 2 Internet browser projects for Windows. The Chromium project and the Mozilla foundation. No, the basic existing browsers are not Google Chrome, Opera, Firefox and Microsoft Edge. Opera abandoned its own "Presto" browser engine in 2012, Microsoft stopped developing its own browser known as Internet Explorer in 2015 & and later stopped developing its own motor in Edge in 2019. Now both the Opera browser and Microsoft's browser are based on the Chromium project. An open source database for developing a web browser, maintained by various companies that later use the source code to create their own version of the browser with additional features. Google develops Chrome and Microsoft develops Edge, same as multiple companies using the same codebase as above, for example Opera. None of these companies develops versions compatible with Windows XP but many others do, for many they are unknown companies but in China they generally work with Windows XP due to the delicacy of the manufacturing processes and the independent control provided by this operating system. By not needing direct connections with Microsoft and therefore with the US Government. There are many Chinese browsers based on both Chromium and Mozilla, the Chromium versions come with telemetry for the Chinese Government to know which websites you visit (Google also does it for the USA and stronger) but there are modified versions that have this capacity removed . There are also browsers from other places but they are less developed such as Otter Browser or RetroZilla. Based on Mozilla we can also find updated browsers even for Windows 2000, although for this system they have not passed the beta phase as forks of K-Meleon and PaleMoon developed by Roytam1. Sin embargo for Windows XP you can find several browsers modified to work on this operating system, whose versions are continuously updated. These come in English and many can be patched in another language. For Windows XP I recommend using the English Chromium-based versions, especially 360 Extreme Explorer modified version without telemetry, due to their speed compared to Mozilla-based browsers. User interface can be found in English and in Chinese. Multilanguage only come with Kafan MiniBrowser (except installer), Maxthon and UC Browser. If we want to view the web pages in other specific languages, we must also modify the language in which we want to view them by default. To work with Chromium it is essential that we understand the Windows certificate system, since the https web pages display depends on our Windows certificates being up to date. While for Mozilla-based browsers it is not necessary, since they are integrated into the browser itself and it is not necessary to update them independently. To update the Windows XP certificates, download a package updated by the Japanese @blackwingcat on its Windows Legacy Update website: http://win2k.org/wlu/wluen.htm We go to the manual update section and look for certificates. Unzip the file with 7-Zip or WinRar and then install it. Note: The files on this website come in a format that I have not been able to use in Spanish XP, even discussing it with the author. They may work in other languages but if not don't worry, unzip with 7-zip and install. Below I indicate which are the best developments for Windows XP and its base code version in April 2022. BASED ON MOZILLA. THE BEST BROWSERS ARE THESE: By @roytam1 (Goanna based): -New Moon (Pale Moon fork & Firefox fork) -K-Meleon (K-Meleon fork & Firefox fork) -Serpent / UXP basilisk52 (Basilisk fork & Firefox fork) -Serpent / Mobieus basilisk55 (Basilisk fork & Firefox fork) All are versioned by Roytam1 and lack telemetry for the use of any Government, this is their website to download: http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser And in this post on the MSFN forum you can ask questions: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182647-my-browser-builds-part-3/ He also has forks of: -Artic-Fox (MAC fork) -Borealis (Borealis Navigator fork - Netscape Navigator fork) -IceApe (IceWesel fork) And special versions for SSE 1 processors. Automatic unofficial installer for roytam1’s browsers by @i430VX http://i430vx.net/files/XP/RoyTam Browser Installer.exe (this may not work on multiple languages or personalized installations) By @feodor2 Quantum 68-78 based (NEW): -MyPal 68 https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/ Goanna based (project is down on September 2021): -MyPal (Pale Moon fork & Firefox fork) https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal http://www.mypal-browser.org/release -Centaury (Basilisk fork & Firefox fork) https://github.com/Feodor2/Centaury/releases THE FULL LIST OF CHROMIUM_BASED BROWSERS IS THIS: -2345 Explorer (Chinese only) http://ie.2345.cc/ (for PC) https://app.2345.com/ (for phone) -360 Extreme Explorer (webkit adapted to Blink + Trident (IE according to web compatibility) 360 Extreme Explorer is the current name of the international version of the Chinese 360 Secure Explorer. Not to be confused with the name "Browser 360" which refers to an old international version whose latest version is 7.5.2.104 and it is based on Chromium 31 https://360-browser.en.softonic.com/ International versions based on Chromium 78 or higher are called "360 Extreme Explorer", in this post on the MSFN forum you can ask questions: https://msfn.org/board/topic/178380-extreme-explorer-360-chromium-78-general-discussion Download Links: Official international version (web english version only download old version 11): https://browser.360.cn/ee/en.html On Septembre 2021 web for english version only on Chinese (careful, uninstall 360 also only on Chinese) https://browser.360.cn/ee/ 360 Extreme Explorer versions with telemetry removed: From versions 12 and 13 (Chromium 86), for 360 Extreme Explorer to correctly display the certificate on some https pages, and their style sheet, it requires activating compatibility mode with Windows 2000 by right clicking on the executable file .EXE. @Humming Owl modified versions: -post on MSFN: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/ -folders: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/fuwfohw2b75ot/02-10-21 https://archive.org/details/360EE_Modified_Version Arcticfoxie modified versions (aka @NotHereToPlayGames modified versions): https://msfn.org/board/topic/182993-360-extreme-explorer-arcticfoxie-versions/ Version R8 for low memory computers: https://msfn.org/board/topic/184515-arcticfoxienotheretoplaygames-360chrome-v1351030-rebuild-8/ Modified in China: (several users report that the telemetry is not completely canceled, that the deletion is partial) http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/360chrome.html Modified in Russia: (several users report that the telemetry is not completely canceled, that the deletion is partial) https://rsload.net/soft/browser/17362-360-browser.html https://lrepacks.ru/repaki-programm-dlya-interneta/182-360-extreme-explorer-amp-portable.html Forum in Russian to modify the official international version: http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=5&topic=49673 The current version for the Chinese market is called ... -360 Secure Explorer also known as 360 Secure Browser The official version can be downloaded here (only in Chinese language) http://browser.360.cn/ And here is the modified version in China: http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/360se.html -DC Browser v.4 (Chromium 75) Note: With the official version I have experienced multiple blue screens, the modified version I have not tried yet. Official version: http://dcbrowser.cqttech.com/home @Humming Owl modified versions: -post on MSFN: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/ -download folders https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gc3rbagwt99pr/DC_Browser_Modified_Version -Kafan MiniBrowser aka MiniBlink aka MiniChrome (Chromium 87) Official version multilanguage (install only Chinese): https://browser.kfsafe.cn Forum: https://bbs.kafan.cn/forum-298-1.html Maximum perfomance: 2 GiB RAM: 5 tabs open 8 GiB RAM: 25 tabs open @Humming Owl modified versions: -Post on MSFN: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/ -Download folders https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ytdozcs6wco9x/Mini_Browser_Modified_Version -Liebao aka Kingsoft Cheetah Secure Browser Official version: https://www.liebao.cn/ Change Chinese language to English: https://malwaretips.com/threads/liebao-cheetah-browser.381. Portable version https://www.portableSoft.org/down/3022/ -Maxthon (Blink + Trident + Webkit) (Chromium 69) Official multilanguage version: * https://www.maxthon.com/ * Version 6.x is not compatible with Windows XP. * Version 5.x is the latest compatible with Windows XP. MaxThon 5.3.8.2100 Beta (2020-01-06): https://forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/release-notes5/%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%0%C2%A0%C2% A0V-5382100-R214 / MaxThom 5.3.8.2000 Release (2019-10-24): https://forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/release-notes5/%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%0%C2%A0%C2% A0V-5382000-R213 / -QQ Browser (Blink + Trident) Official version (care, better not install, it looks like a virus / spyware that makes a lot of advertising in all your computer) https://browser.qq.com/ -Sogou Explorer (It only exists in Chinese language) Official version: https://ie.sogou.com/ Version modified in China: http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/sogouexplorer.html. Both on Windows XP and on Windows 10 it gives me the following error: w10 error xx183 cannot create a file that already exists -UC Browser (Chromium 54) This browser has been discontinued, after being accused of stealing user data. The latest version for Windows (7.0.185.1002) is from the year 2018. Official links have stopped working in some countries. Official version multilanguage: http://www.ucweb.com/ucbrowser/download/ Alternative download: https://www.filehorse.com/download-uc-browser-for-windows/ Modified version in China (it is possible to change the language to English after navigating the menu in Chinese): http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/ucbrower.html -TS Browser (Chromium 75) Official version: http://tsbrowser.xiangtatech.com It seems to work as well as 360 Extreme Explorer but I haven't gotten it to read the updated certificates. OTHER BROWSERS FOR WINDOWS XP -ArtisBrowser (prevents the user from copying anything from sites) Copy extensions to the browser profile, many of the extensions it will work. Firefox based browser, which apparently prevents the user from copying anything from the sites, although not found it to be the case. It doesn't work for all websites, although it does work on 'some' sites where the newer modified Mozilla type modded browsers don't work as well... maybe it's related to the API... Many extensions work. Link that determines the operating system you are using: https://artistscope.com/artisbrowser/artisbrowser-download.asp Link that downloads the latest version that works on Windows XP: https://images.artistscope.com/download/ASPS_Browser_install_XP.zip -Lobo Evolution (Java browser in Alpha phase) This is a current fork of the Lobo browser that was discontinued in 2009. Tested the latest version 3.0, it works exaggeratedly slow. Official Downloads: Github (last updated version) https://github.com/LoboEvolution/LoboEvolution/releases Sourceforge (only up to v.2.0) https://sourceforge.net/projects/loboevolution/ Original Wolf of the Year 2009: https://lobobrowser.org/ -Netsurf (experimental without Javascript) https://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/windows/ -Otter Browser (Opera Classic - Qt5) https://otter-browser.org -Opera 12.18_45 unofficial (mod 06.11.20) (russian original but english is possible) https://www.upload.ee/files/12483022/Opera_Unofficial_Portable_12.18_45.zip.html (link is down) alternatives download: https://disk.yandex.ru/d/HbQfEL8dnx_c7A https://yadi.sk/d/ANkjyZ6Hfws34w With certificates (zip password "111"): https://www.mediafire.com/folder/xndaaefaebnib/Browsers Instruction for menu Opera with english language https://msfn.org/board/topic/182794-updated-browser-list-for-windows-xp/?do=findComment&comment=1208594 Forum: https://www.tenforums.com/general-support/172922-windows-xp-2021-system-build-modern-pc.html http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8570 Forum certificates: https://forums.opera.com/topic/9630/opera-12-17-tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-settings-not-persistent/9 -RetroZilla (Gecko 1.8.1 fork) https://github.com/rn10950/RetroZilla/releases/ Also compatible with Windows 95Ç -Tor Browser 7.5.6 unoffial updated internal components, with Tor 0.4.5.8 (Release May, 2021). English and Russian packs. https://www.upload.ee/files/13208675/TB756_en_0458.ZIP.html (English) SHA256: a22a94bd1d4f23b6b1538ce3cddc3555e0c67fe423d80f4e541b8c8a409f3dc4 https://www.upload.ee/files/13208684/TB756_ru_0458.ZIP.html (Russian) SHA256: d0036853c3fd6de568f274f10a63fa4b46db0c0bc7669045f41c2f37f8a20fb9 Forum: https://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=5834#20 https://www.tenforums.com/general-support/172922-windows-xp-2021-system-build-modern-pc.html BROWSERS FOR TEST WEB PAGES -Utility Firefox Collection http://utilu.com/UtiluMFC/#download -Utility IE Collection http://utilu.com/IECollection/#download CLIENTS THAT DISPLAY MODERN WEB PAGES IN OLD BROWSERS, THANKS TO A PROXY SERVER THAT CONVERTS WEB PAGES INTO IMAGES -Browser Service (requires own Linux server): https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice/releases/tag/v0.9.2.2 Instruction: https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice -WRP (requires own server): https://github.com/tenox7/wrp/releases/ Instruction: https://github.com/tenox7/wrp SEARCH ENGINE THAT WORKS IN OLDER BROWSERS -FrogFind (showing only text) http://www.frogfind.com PAGES ARE BEING CREATED WITH VARIOUS UPDATED INFORMATION -XPforever https://xpforever.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page -retrobrowser.com http://retrobrowsers.com/windowsxp -Retro System Revival https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/p/final-versions-of-working-software-on.html MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CURRENT WINDOWS XP OPERATION Visit MSFN forum Windows XP section: https://msfn.org/board/forum/34-windows-xp/ This post is available in Spanish here: https://foro.elhacker.net/windows/listado_de_navegadores_actualizados_para_windows_xp-t510585.0.html

Here all Russian versions portable and supposedly without telemetry.

I think it is a bug that occurs in 360 Extreme Explorer, since memory consumption suddenly skyrockets. Technically I don't understand why if I cancel 360 Extreme cache and delete Windows XP x86 virtual memory the consumption of this type of memory increases. (even a warning notice appears). On older computers with SATA disks it does not crash, but rather slows down for many minutes at startup. It is with the SSD that it crashes. I would like to find a system to limit the memory consumption in 360, for example controlling the time that the tabs are kept open in RAM. I have tried various extensions. CAUTION The Great Suspender is removed from the Extension Center, according to Google the new version has spy code. In any case, the extension works to reduce the RAM using 360 but it does not reduce the RAM when starting 360 Extreme restoring tabs, but on the contrary, it increases it, since it must proceed to perform additional operations. I have also tried the One Tab extension, with one button it concentrates all the tabs in one, but unfortunately restores them out of order. I have found little tricks to restore tabs. After a crash it sometimes works not to press the restore tabs button. I leave 360 with a tab for several minutes and then press control + shift + t and it restores the tabs without firing the RAM. It doesn't always work. Yes it works to open 360 with a single tab and use the Tab Session Manager extension restoring the tabs from there, it does not fail and it does not increase the RAM. Another option I have found is to override Isolation chrome: // flags / # site-isolation-trial-opt-out But I have not observed real effects. I will test with 360 Extreme Explorer v13 I insist on thinking that it is a bug. And one thing I am very clear about. If something cannot be done with Windows XP it is something that does not interest me. Windows XP is forever or it won't be. I would abandon computing :-)

Yes, that's what I do and it happens to me. I am observing that with just one more tab it increases to 72 processes in the task manager No problem with Mozilla versions and many tabs, except slower system.

Right now I have 136 tabs open, seven .exe are open. The error does not occur when I open many tabs, but when I close 360 Extreme Explorer with many tabs and reopen it. Opening it is when the crash occurs, suddenly increasing the RAM consumption. It seems that the less powerful the computer is, the earlier the error occurs based on the number of open tabs. Although it could be that it only happened in my computers, because I use Windows XP with cloned versions from one computer to another. Edit: At this point I have rebooted with 137 tabs and upped the RAM to 7.02 GiB. 360 Extreme has not crashed but the processes of all the extensions have been closed (it is another collateral error before the crash) Right now I have 72 processes of 360chrome.exe without crashing. The next time I rebooted with 138 tabs it crashed.

I have no interest in getting into deep philosophical discussions but thanks for the interest :-) The question is simple: When I have 150 tabs on this computer and I close 360 Extreme Explorer when restarting it, the RAM occupies less than 1 GiB RAM. But when I have 151 tabs open, only 1 more, when restarting the memory consumption shoots up to 9.56 GiB RAM, at which point 360 Extreme Explorer crash. I just want to know why just one more tab causes this situation. Similar events happen to me on other computers, but they occur in a number of different tabs. It may happen that just having 1 more tab 360 Extreme Explorer takes 30 min. to restart. Everything indicates that it seems to be related to cache or virtual memory but I can't guess what the cause is.