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Different shill-patterns.

WOW! ScanIAm from Channel9 is getting disappointed with MS. https://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Apparently-WMC-is-no-longer-part-of-Win10 I know this doesn't sound like news in any way, but he was one of the biggest shills for NuMicrosoft ever and defended them tooth and nails. See him in action there. He didn't drink the Kool-Aid, he swam in it (like Dotmatrix from Neowin). Astounding that even folks like these are getting dismayed by Microsoft now. What even Windows 8 wasn't able to do, Windows 10 is doing it.

I did this already in April: http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/These-Windows-10-adwarepreloader-patches-are-packaged-with-important-security-updates-JUST-WTF This thread was quite funny by the way. I didn't unveil the super-weapon (forced 8.0 to 8.1 upgrade) until the late page 2. As you can see I was quite cornered until this point, but then I completely turned it around by relentlessly hammering the forced upgrade issue and broke the fanboi/shill-front down with it. Another round of forum-chess won.

If you would complain about the pop-up on a place like Channel9 they would still accuse of tin-foil. Been there, done that. I think it would only count as malware by the fanboiz and shills if it would overwrite your Windows with W10 without any confirmation.

I knew the notification would be annoying. Actually, I expected it to be far more annoying than this. Maybe MS will "fix" that though and make it more of a PITA. NuMS style.

MS does audits too, remember http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/172826-windows-10-first-impressions/?p=1099667 I am pretty sure VMWare won't bother you with audits. They might if you have more than 100 employees though.

The crazy new Windows Update could bomb harder than metro did. It will only take a few f***-ups and it will explode, given that they are now non-declinable. And MS is notorious for faulty patches. Even if they will fix it by the time the pro and enterprise users will get the patches; the damage done on home-versions will be enough for a major backlash. They don't seem to realize this.

In case you guys haven't noticed it already: Acrobat Reader got metrotarded in the latest version ("DC"). If you want to try it out, watch out: It automatically replaces the previous Adobe Reader. And the users are pissed off once again: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1812762

Well, it's now the time to reap. There was a period when the pendulum swung too far (at least according to the corps) to the side of the customers. The late 90s until the end of the 2000s - the age of P2P, availability of broad band, powerful computers and OSes, easily cirvumventable DRM... That was deemed too dangerous for the bottom line. So the pendulum was swung back. Personally I thought that some of the attitude of the pirates back then was a bit much ("I deserve to download 100 gigs per month!") but the corps have broken their promises in return. They said DRM will be lenient - they lied. They said products will get cheaper - they lied. They said customers will not lose rights - they lied. You cannot own anything now, everything is going to be subscription based. Thus everything will cost much more in the long run (otherwise they wouldn't push it). And piracy is a lousy for all this tightening up. Dedicated pirates will always find their sources. No, it's all about controlling and ripping off the ordinary customer. They shall never have the power again they had a decade ago. Ultimately though it's the collective fault of the customers for letting this happen, and even cheering it all on sometimes.

If that's the case then his shilling has at least reason. Having a relative at MS beats being a drooling metrotard.

Wasn't Drew a regular on that Windows 8 technet forum? (NoelC will remember). God, that guy was thick. Oh, yes, he was: https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Profile/drew1903

It's actually an important update for quite some time. I think they labeled it to important three weeks ago.

What is the world coming to? No, really: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Microsoft has to bow down to Candy Crush?! Oh boy, metro was truly worth it!

Here's a great article on how business customers are increasingly pissed off by Microsoft's "cloud first, mobile first" and licensing policies. Unfortunately it's only in German but the translator does a good enough job. It's a must read, even in its auto-translated form. Part 1 Part 2 part 3

Microsoft made more often than not the right decisions in the past. Some people who rode the wave can't accept that this is not the case anymore. It's like finding out that your spouse is cheating on you. Some are drawing the line right there, others don't want to accept it and get angry at the people who have the incriminating photos.

I know it's fruitless. It has become something of silly a past-time (forum-chess). I am not the only "anti-metrotard" there by the way. I don't expect anything productive out of this. That ship has sailed. The above "advices" are strictly for Noel, who appeared on C9 and tried to be a "nice guy".

You had a rough ride on Channel9 eh? You were far too calm and reasonable. You need to be aggressive with these guys. See here: http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/There-is-no-end-of-life-XP-problem?page=3 http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/E3-Smackdown?page=5 I have certainly shaped up my rhetoric skills there.. NuMicrosoft has cultivated a fanboy-base akin to that of a pyramidal scheme or multi-level marketing.. anyone outside of the bubble knows it's BS because it has proven time and time again that the schemes break down (the "success" of W8, WP, the controversy regarding ALL their products in the last few years). That's why you can't be nice with people who are still fully into the scheme. The only way of talking they might be receptive to is extreme confrontation. It's like with an alcoholic.

I don't buy it that they will stay course in the long run with this. "Eternal Windows" will turn stale, very quickly. Especially when Google and Apple continue to release whizz-bang releases. They will get Apple-envy yet again. "Eternal Windows" will also be a total nightmare to support, especially the business users: They will be locked between the need to support a "version" for a longer period and churning out point relases. What happens is that "devices" will be on Windows 10.21 while the business users are still on Windows 10 RTM. Not to mention the breakage of applications in general. They will never be able to fix that. Even their metro apps have breaking changes between minor versions (8 to 8.1). So much for win32 being "legacy" and metro care-free. This is all far more complicated to handle than regular Windows releases. They might try it, but they will give it up again. That's my take at least.

This is fuglier than Windows 1

Well, Noel. How did you like the some of the fan-boyz on Channel9 on your first serious trip there? You personally angered one of the king-metrotards by the way.

More on the tablet front: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20150504PD201.html

Despite my fall-out with MS since W8, I have no problem with IE as well. But I guess they will abandon its development in favour of Spartan, or at least they will try (if W10 fails, they have to backtrack again).

Nothing. It's also an extremely ugly piece of metro software. Have you tried Vivaldi? Now that's a browser to look out for. With a bit of tweaking in its settings (native window = on), it turns into the complete opposite of metrotard. It's a great antidot. Too bad the default theme (native window = off) looks somewhat "modern".

Ah, I see you're on the Channel9 thread as well. cbae and kettch appeared. These are the users we're talking about here. These guys will approve anything MS puts out. And I mean it. Back during the xbone fiasco, they advocated every idiotic MS move, even the craziest 1984esque stuff like always-on infrared cameras. And here's kettch claiming Windows RT was a success.. in 2015. A social scientist would have a field day with some of the guys there.

You still had doubts about this? I don't know the Insider's forum that much, but on Channel9 there are posters that fit the above description like a glove.