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I get a 4.5 my memory being 1GB holds me back, as overclocking it from ddr 400 2-2-2-5 to 520 2-2-2-5 changes the score none.

M$ drivers nvidia isn't even trying

so aero and glass effects are directx 9 do they need dx10 at all? could then this dx10 and opengl32 dll's not be replaced by dx9.dll from xp and opengl32.dll from xp?

did you upgrade from rc1 to rc2? or did you do a clean install? rc2 added the ability to run counter strike source through steam runs really well for being dx10 and this aero interface thing. cant wait for sli now. but that aero interface thing, causes wierd blinking ground in some lvls, and in some option screens. thats the biggest issue I see so far, is with areo coming though in games using IE core

well that enabled it on my ati 9800 pro for me, back in the day when it was called longhorn. but, civiliation 4 1.61, (patched to run in vista) causes the computer to crash just like windows xp. too bad was hopin to play that game haha.

have you tried tweakvista to force it?

I had to remove the nvidia vista rc1 forceware, imposible to use (crash from alt-tab and are retarded slow, even at making a dx7 game run), but the control panel stayed, so I got some control now . for both vista rc1 5728 and rc2 , the built in drivers, are fast, and stable. now how to just install a control panel from a windows xp version with sli. only crashing so far in rc2, was the windows update for nvAudio drivers. instead i used the nforce rc1 's. and 5.1 now and no crashing in games from nvmcp.dll

I just got it installed lets see if vista new nvidia drivers can play warcraft 3 or maybe civiliazation 4, cause that wont work in xp for me lol and i better take a look at getting sli working , again, nvtray , maybe. edit after giving administrator permission to use war3 from another windows, it appeared under games, perfectly w/o installing. gonna play for an hour, see if it crashes like rc1 5728

hmm, that is a better agreement isn't it.

thats very odd, vista ran great for me post rc1 build that was released. 5728 built in nvidia drivers were the only ones to not crash immediatly in warcraft 3. it performed stable, and eventually crashed after about 30 minutes. I have a 6 month old computer. Nvidia must be thinking like gamers, vista will be support, once its out, and demand is their, xp is more important right now. Leaving vista drivers upto microsoft, which seems to be doing the better job in making nvidia drivers for vista. I used vista ultimate edition, with 1GB of ram, booted slightly slower than a nlited version with prefetch left, to keep it about even in the testing scenerios. But the vista UI was far more responsive than xp's. With all those bells and whistles on. @aegis but if the xbox 360 supported dx10, then there would be an alternative for crysis, convincing users vista is not needed. heres to hoping the ps3 can support dx10. I guess thats possible right? winex maybe lol.

well, probbally around 35MB for 2k alone. but it will probbally be able to be shrunk more. but possibly, less. @comrade tux, but wouldn't that also, deter developers from using it, modifing and adding stuff?

so, since I havn't heard from users in soo long. Who wants a beta 3.0. Ill release it this week-end if you ask for it, here or the other forums. GPL should make it easy to modify beta 3.0 easily. Software support will come out differently, maybe a program this time around. So far 60 games, and 100's of programs can work. But the method of making them work is what will take some time to develop. Anyone who'd like to contibute to this part of the project can by providing help in making the program for it.

lol I cant agree more, I think nvidia should stop spending their time on linux, for the time being, direct all that attention to vista, since linux programers might of had to be the smarter of the bunch anyway. and make vista drivers, that reflect like doom3 at high res high quality did. 85% performance increase.

looking at how ati is doing, its a driver issue, on nvidia's end mostly wouldn't you say?

@dAbReAkA its all about the drivers, come vista rc1 I found ati is doing well, with their drivers in game performance where nvidias rc1 drivers worse , in the benchmarks they did, expect 1, doom 3 @ 1600X1200 HDR etc, these are some of the things vista might bring, better use of multiple cpus, and memory management from my own testing. maybe their is a good reason why dx 10, is currently only planed for vista.

imagine the fun that will come with tcp/ip vers 6 I noticed it can be setup manually just like tcp/ip vers 4 , in vista I might have to see what I can trick my inet into allowing me to do lol

ftp program would work great setup an ftp server probbally the fastest way to send via a network anyway. IPX was mainly used in older games, to play networked in dos times. their is always the tcp option, and internet play.

I see no problem, it makin everythng before vista incompatible. microsoft already wants to make it dx 10 only in vista. if it means getting rid of win 3.x- 9.x and nt5-5.1 security holes.

that seems like the one. would everyone be happy with it?

so, anyone wanna let me know where I can find a good opensource agreement? heh, but i guess that would have to be, a un-licenced opensource agreement. lol

@spooky, warcraft 3 ran fine for me, faster load time, but did crash after 1 hour of gameplay. thats on a 7800gt though. was very smooth gameply. I got 1 GB of memory, and have also disabled most services that I would in xp, and worked out whats needed just for UI, being able to login, and have superprefetch and ReadyBoost. but, I have highly overclocked memory, and bet it was something to do with instability. steam, cant run counter strike source, tells me try again later. Only issues I see so far, is nvidia's lack of driver support still, as nvidias rc1 beta drivers, caused more issues, then the built in ones, that this build has. I think it is done myself, if you compare it to xp's release. I think with drivers, rc1 will be stable. oh, besides the fact, that you cant install nvraid drivers, without installing from windows xp 32bit for 32bit vista, using xp drivers not vista beta 2.0 ones. Being as w/o being in windows, vista will not see your partitions for your raid, even when you add the drivers from a cd/dvd flash card etc, making installing from the bootable dvd impossible for all nvraid users.

if you read into it more you'd realise microwinX is going opersource beta 3.0 if you really wanna yell at me for a licence of my first public release and a line that some people got a laught out of, go ahead. just dont expect me to read it. and godaddy's free hosting is great for me I get 250GB of free bandwich every month site normally loads fast 2000MB of storage I think that will work fine for microwinX, and all future features, I hope opensource can bring to the project, and other projects.

I dislike the new performance rating system in rc1, using the weakest part of the system as the score. Really, most my stuff is 5.7 - 6.0 but why is my score 4.5, just cause of having 1GB of memory? its ddr 500 2-2-2-5, did microsoft add conroe's with ddr 1211 4-4-4-8 to the tests or what, cause my memory is dirty fast. now all I need is a 2GB usb stick, and get superprefetching setup. edit warcraft 3 Frozen Throne is running great, even without my sli. but I cant understand, why its sooo much faster at loading warcraft 3 in vista. Can anyone answer that? who wants to start shrinking vista, its getting close to rtm oooo, first error, wmp11 in tray mode, had a cpu leak (used 50% which is 1 whole cpu on my machine), opening it back out, fixed that. (this comes and goes randomly in tray mode) edit 3 vista must manage memory alot better than xp, even while runnings wmp11 , and downloading cs source from steam, everest scores are barely phased, where in xp, they'd lose a bunch. edit 4 no steam working, but ive disabled alot of services and even though it didn't have the impact it did in earlier builds, everything still works, and its honestly a great speed. I only hope this rc1 reflects the performance of the rtm and hope an rtm comes soon, cause with rc1 ill be happy with just real drivers out of nvidia for video cards and chipset. maybe nvidia has been spending too much time on linux (sry that was a bad joke, to poke fun at ati's linux support but their great vista drivers, that perform almost as good as in windows xp) I also tried my best to add in sli, or really any extra screens to that new nvidia control panel available under vista. None of the coolbits worked, or their current nvtray. Even with its sli option, its plainly not their in driver. I am willing to hose my vista install for sli. Anyone have ideas?

I went from beta 2.0, to this build. I must say, wow, what happend between beta 2.0 and post rc1 did they optimise all the code or what. Its faster than my prefetech enabled full version of windows xp and a few of my nlited ones still need more game support, but other than that. Its great. never thought i'd say that lol. guess all thats left to do. cause I got my nvraid working in rc1 and post rc1, in 32bit vista. if anyone needs the method, just ask.

during next month, the support fuorums, will be filled with updates, keep looking I have come to realise, life can mess up everyone. Sry jeremy, hope lifes doing good, hope you get fair credit for your work. I hope everyone reads this. Next month microwinX will go to beta 3.0, the agreement will be open source, for the exception, of nlites code, which you will agree to seperatly. microwinX will official bec0ome an open source project come beta 3.0, all contibutions and edits of microwinX, and rehosted, with the open source licence entact will be allowed. I want microwinX to be a community project, and wanted that since day one. only together, can we secure each other computers, and stop being spyed on. No Agies, this doesn't mean you can outright steal the work, opensrouce means, you must included the source, the licence, and share all changed material freely, meaning you'd have to go open source, im not gonna allow the sale of microwinX, and that will not change. And despite what you said, GE isn't alive, its been on pause you said for quite a while, now you just see microwinX going opensource, and say GE isn't dead. Why would you of said anyting at all.