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I've now done this: https://github.com/Mathwi/binoc-central At this point I've only touched MailNews. Moved two prefs to branding so I could split official & unofficial builds, and changed the unofficial prefs as follows: app.releaseNotesURL changed, in order to redirect Help / Release Notes to @roytam1's blog. app.support.baseURL changed, in order to redirect Help / Help Contents (as well as the "support website" link found in Help / Troubleshooting Info) to a placeholder page @roytam1 set up, vs. BinOC's IRC. Both changes are consistent with previous changes to NM and Serpent. Yet to do: change the link "The Open Source Community" in the Help / About MailNews pop-up window, which currently points to http://binaryoutcast.com/. I could use some help locating the source of this link.

@dencorso, I wonder if this thread and the "Antivirus for XP" thread could/should be merged? They seem to be covering the same ground, even to the point that posts in one are getting answered in the other.

It's important to be precise here. The bug isn't that typing file:///c:/ in the address bar shows your C: drive - that's what it's supposed to do. The bug is that an HTML document in C:\ can access any other file on the C: drive. This isn't easy to fix though, as Mozilla explains: A fix would probably involve treating certain locations as special cases: drive root directories, "C:\Program Files," the desktop, etc., which are likely to contain "unrelated things." (Mac/Linux would have different exceptions, of course.) Probably along with a new set of prefs so users could control it on a spectrum from Chrome-tight to "anything goes." Unfortunately it would take a much better programmer than I to make a change like this. Probably best to just wait and see what Mozilla and/or MCP come up with. In the meantime, just avoid saving Web pages or other HTML documents to the desktop or similar "high-level" directories. Even if you use your browser's or email client's default "downloads" directory, all anyone will be able to steal is your other downloads.

They actually went overboard, by changing the SSUAO to report Win 10. Reporting Win 8.1 is sufficient, and by the time whatsapp.com actually requires Win 10 they'll need to change it again anyhow. @VistaLover: it sounds like Github has added the same annoying second-level security that many financial Web sites use: when you successfully sign in, they set a cookie; but if that cookie isn't found you have to go through an annoying "we'll verify this is really you by sending an email to 'your' email account" procedure. When money's involved, I can understand; it wouldn't take long to steal your bank account and the bank would be liable. But I just don't think Github is that critical; IDK why M$ has implemented this for Github's login.

The man needs to look more at what was posted and less at who posted it. Even misspelled "concerned" - uncharacteristic for him. He must've really lost it. And Feodor2 merely suggested removing some code that's no longer relevant, given what MCP has already removed. Anyhow, it's interesting that PM (& presumably NM) don't have Web application support either. Serpent seems to, although components like service workers have to be manually enabled - then locked down to prevent abuse. Maybe that's why?

Probably the last one for XP ever since the Windows Update servers XP uses will be shut down this month. Well, I take that back - you might still be able to get Office 2010 updates via the Windows Update Catalog. But I'm not sure they'll install if they change the signature algorithm. Office 2010 updates may become a tedious process of downloading, extracting, and installing the updated files manually.

Bumping this thread to let everyone know I changed myuseragents.js on page 8 to spoof Chrome 49 for web.whatsapp.com, so it will work with FF and Serpent again. Keep in mind Palemoon/New Moon have their own built-in SSUAO for web.whatsapp.com that will take precedence over myuseragents.js; for those browsers you'll have to change the SSUAO manually in about:config to: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/49.0.2049.0 Safari/537.36

Doesn't seem possible:

This isn't quite the same thing, but NirSoft's WinUpdatesList will show installed updates from Win 98 forward.

Or @roytam1's SSE build of Firefox 45 ESR

Doesn't work in Serpent 55. No luck changing user agents (so far). Works OK in Serpent 52 (on XP) and official Basilisk (on Win 7). Mouse wheel works at https://www.miplo.pl/?c=0#showmap even in Serpent 55.

Instead of trying to perform major surgery on this thread, perhaps we could have a subforum dedicated to Mozilla Firefox and other browsers derived from it. This thread, and the link to it, would then remain the same as now, so the links in NM 28 and Serpent 52 wouldn't be broken; it would just be the first pinned topic in the new subforum. Folks could then create other threads in that subforum to discuss issues with "official" FF, Seamonkey, @roytam1's builds, etc., thus reducing the "clutter" in this thread going forward. (Sometimes folks do that now, but the thread winds up in the larger XP forum, so it can quickly get lost among all the other XP topics being discussed.)

Well after installing all Office 2010 updates offered, then restoring mso.dll, Excel 2010 works again. However there's one nagging problem left. There were three updates that wouldn't install: KB2881030, KB2999465, and KB3213638. Every time I try to install them, the installation fails, then they are offered again! I suppose I could just hide them, but the latter two are security updates. I assume there are log files somewhere which might tell me why they fail to install. How can I find the install logs? Update: Well, I managed to get them all installed, by downloading them all manually, then in two cases extracting the updated files with 7-Zip and moving them to my Office14 folder (and in some cases, renaming them). In the third case, KB2881030, for some reason it was looking for ofv.msi, which is included in the Office 2010 File Validation Add-In installer, which I didn't get a disk for, but can be downloaded and installed online. So even though it was already installed, I downloaded the installer again, extracted ofv.msi with 7-Zip, and told the patch to use that file. Now Windows Update shows no more updates needed, except for KB2553347 which I'd hidden long ago. Now I'm trying to remember why.... Was it one of the updates that's incompatible with XP?

I got an unexpected bonus for my $7.75: An Office 2010 Home and Student disk with a valid product key! I just installed it, and to my surprise, it activated online! Didn't even need to call. I'm now installing about a bazillion updates though. (Of course, I made a copy of the last working MSO.DLL first, so I can put it back after 4462223 breaks it .)

Yes, that is true. My main complaint with AVAST is that it slows down file deletion, sometimes to a ridiculous extent. And it's a bit more paranoid than MSE, requiring some exceptions to be created (although nowhere near as bad as Symantec!) That said, even MSE was getting to be a pain toward the end. I had to exclude browser files from it, and rely instead on MBAE, in order to get adequate performance. Ironically I haven't had to do that with AVAST yet. (Also still running MBAE, although I probably don't need to any more....)

palemoon-27.6.0a1.win32-git-20170929-bc251e93-xpmod.7z is the oldest New Moon 27 version at https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/. Roytam keeps every version on his website, but that one probably has several bugs. Unless you have a specific reason for running an old version, you'll probably have better luck running the current version of NM 27. Try one of these instead: palemoon-27.9.6.win32-git-20190615-b33dced90-xpmod-ia32.7z palemoon-27.9.6.win32-git-20190615-b33dced90-xpmod-sse.7z palemoon-27.9.6.win32-git-20190615-b33dced90-xpmod.7z Try #3 first; if it doesn't run, try #2; if it doesn't run either try #1. #3 is for newer CPUs; #2 and #1 are for successively older CPUs.

We use SEP at my workplace. Unfortunately I've found it to be way too paranoid, triggering on various files from @roytam1's browser builds, for instance. This is a problem because if one of his browsers truly were infected by malware, you'd ignore it thinking it was just another false positive! It's probably a good AV for someone who only runs well-known software, but I think it'd be too much of a hassle for most of the folks in this forum.

I remember that issue being discussed in the XP browser thread circa January. Maybe now's a good time to grab the latest reasonably stable build of Edge, before Google ruins it.

MCCES = MSSECES? See and subsequent discussion. To make a long story short, no one figured it out, and we all pretty much gave up and moved on to other free AV products.

@i430VX, that would be great. It was fairly easy downloading an index page from the server and filtering the lines of HTML code for the files I was interested in, but it was pretty tricky figuring out how to parse the file name out of the HTML; I was hoping my solution would be of use, especially after your possible server compromise. (Glad that turned out to be nothing, BTW.) Regarding choice.exe, I was lucky to have upgraded from 98 to XP, so I still had 98's old choice.com to fall back on. (That explains those odd lines near the top of the batch file.) But folks who never had a DOS-based version of Windows and started on 32-bit XP, 2000, or NT were out of luck. It's hard to write user-friendly batch files without it; although I do remember reading about a trick from an old issue of Computer Shopper: you have the batch file display the menu, then change to a directory specifically for that menu, then just drop back to the command line - but in the menu's directory, you have batch files named 1.bat, 2.bat, etc. So the user just types their choice and presses Enter, and the PC runs the batch file for that menu choice! Oh, the hoops we used to have to jump through....

Good: Help / Submit Feedback in Serpent 52 now opens this thread instead of forum.palemoon.org. Welcome to the thread, Serpent 52 users!

I generally agree - after all, that's what I've done myself. But the remaining free offerings tend to be either heavy in terms of resource use, or else they lack important features like real-time scanning. There may be other concerns too. Kaspersky is, of course, Russian; after all we've learned in the past few years, it's reasonable to wonder whether they might be required to leave a few holes for the "Internet Research Agency" to exploit. So if one has older, less powerful hardware (which might be why they're sticking with XP in the first place), it might be reasonable to resort to a combination of MSE and an on-demand scanner like MalwareBytes free version. There's always a situation where what sounds crazy to you and me makes sense to someone else.

While I agree that an AV that still gets regular updates is preferable, MSE is nonetheless better than no AV at all. Any malware included in the last working definitions file will still be detected and dealt with.

@roytam1 has built KM 74 and NM 26.5 for Win2K. Forked from FF 24 IIRC, both should use fewer resources than NM 27 but work with more sites than Retrozilla. I'm attaching a batch file I use to download & extract @roytam1's browser builds each week. It's not a full installer like @i430VX's - it doesn't create any shortcuts - but it runs through the directory listings provided by Roytam's server and finds the latest file. Requires wget 1.18 to connect to Roytam's server using https: and download the files, and 7-Zip to extract them. Still needs a little work; if I make any changes I'll re-upload it. Edit: Made a few small changes: The choice.exe in Win 7 requires a slightly different syntax than the choice.com from Win 98 I had been using. New .bat file should now be compatible with either version. (BTW, why doesn't Win XP have a "choice" command, requiring you to import one from an older or newer version?) Also fixed a bug: Navigator and MailNews were downloaded into C:\Program Files on a 64-bit system; now they're downloaded into C:\Program Files (x86) as they should be since they're 32-bit programs. And finally, added some code to clean things up at the end, by deleting the .7z file after extracting it. Edit 2: A few more cosmetic changes. Also fixed batch file to work even if current drive isn't the same as the %ProgramFiles% drive. Edit 3: Added an option to download the latest K-Meleon build. This was a bit tricky because the filenames for those builds don't follow the same pattern as the others. Also added a "safety valve" so 7-zip doesn't go nuts if no matching files are found (due to a bug, for instance). Edit 4: This little batch file project is getting more complicated. I added an option to download the latest Firefox 45 ESR SSE-only build. This was the trickiest one so far! One problem was that I couldn't just download the last file name in the listing any more, because that would be firefox-45.9.9 while the latest is firefox-45.9.16 or so. (The file names are sorted alphabetically, so "9" follows "16.") I realized I might soon have the same problem with palemoon-28 if it gets up to 28.10, so I wrote some new batch code to parse out the file date and download the latest file by date. That should future-proof this. Also added a feature: if a "myuseragents.js" file is in the same directory as the batch file, it will offer to install it after downloading & extracting the browser (except mailnews, of course). Tried to make it modular so I can add more "installations" of this type later. (Even this was a little tricky because K-Meleon uses a different path for .js startup files of this type than the other browsers.) Edit 5: Minor fix to above changes to get the latest K-Meleon build by date. Edit 6: Added code to install about-background.png and/or about-wordmark.svg if found in same directory as the batch file. Requires zip.exe from Info-Zip in the batch file directory or path. Final (hopefully) Edit: Batch file is now part of the .7z downloadable at http://i430vx.net/files/mathwiz/Browser Installer.7z

@TechnoRelic just posted the link you need over at the New Moon thread; here it is: https://legacycollector.org/firefox-addons/722/index.html