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Look two posts before.
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Add-on "Get Archive" is a really fine thing to browse through the web archive (archive.org) for me as ME user.
Version 2.5.2 - works with Firefox 3.6 - 56.* I can also use version 3.2 on Firefox 53 (compatible with Firefox 53 and later).
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Issue Light 48/49: Classic Add-ons Archive (2.0.3) doesn't work. Classic Add-ons Archive site becomes blank on search extensions.
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I added SlimBoat.
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On 10/28/2022 at 4:57 PM, gfernval said:
How to resolve the dependency? I know nothing about "kexstubs"
Neither KernelEx 4.5.2 nor core update 25 support RtlSetBits yet. Read and learn how to use Kext (DoItYourself KernelEx Extensions) here.
Kstub.ini:
[ntdll.dll]
RtlSetBits=
Such a simple entry in the Kstub.ini file may or may not work.
Use the ImportPatcher to find missing dependencies.
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It can also be newer file versions. There is nothing, even no numbering, that prevents even a current version (NSS Builtin Trusted Root CAs) - like 91.13 from being used,
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Light author cstkingkey:
"By default, Light only trust a few of Root CAs. It may cause problems.
If you run into cert problems when visiting https sites and it works with firefox, you can dowload or find nssckbi.dll shipped in firefox and put it into light's folder."https://sourceforge.net/p/lightfirefox/wiki/certs/
Common message: Not trusted certificate because the issuer certificate has expired... etcetera
I tested it with nssckbi.dll from Firefox 52.9.
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Light Browser. Not up to date, but slimmed down. As the name says, it is significantly smaller than the corresponding Firefox version. It can start faster and use less memory. It is no longer being developed since 2016.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lightfirefox/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lightfirefox/files/
Portable Mode: https://sourceforge.net/p/lightfirefox/wiki/portable mode/
Version 48: It starts with UI and the graphical interface is fairly stable. That means you can run it without Hardware Acceleration (Compositing > Basic). I guess the Light Browser is better suited for underperforming or older Hardware. You should still set AzureContentBackend to skia.
Supplement:
Light - Firefox fork (versions 29 - 49). I continued my tests. Only versions 47 - 49 are suitable to run without Hardware Acceleration - lower versions aren't.
Light 47 - 49: Set "gfx.content.azure.backends" to skia. Lower versions don't support skia. The support has been removed here. The addon ClassicThemeRestorer 1.5.3 can be used to solve the tab glitch.
Version 49 requires Kext, but not the reg file "APISets Stub dll's/Knowndll's" (v49 compiled with VS2010).
I think it's also interesting, that some versions between 36 and 41 run (with the known issues), namely 36r2, 40 and 41. (37, 38, 39 do not)
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We mostly talked about QupZilla version 1.1.5 in the past. I have now tested newer versions again. Yes, it does not meet fast development and is basically obsolete. It can be interesting for the KernelEx 4.5.2 user to have an alternative for Firefox 9.0.1 or 10.x with RT's Network Security Services nss update.
Qupzilla 1.3.5 runs with Javascript disabled. In my opinion, today 1.8.9 (last XP version, but 2.0.2 runs on my XPSP3, too) isn't much better in terms of website display either.
Its OpenSSL 1.0.0.4 (LIBEAY32.DLL, SSLEAY32.DLL) is nearly unusable, but I can simply update that version by replacing these files. Newer versions support important cryptographic protocol TLS 1.2, too.
I tested that on two machines. On the first with KernelEx core updates 25 (Kext disabled), I use OpenSSL 1.0.2.21 (1.0.2u), on the second with KernelEx 4.5.2, I can use version 1.0.2.12 (1.0.2L) or alternatively - I think it was - 1.0.1.12, in any case, however, 1.0.1.9.LIBEAY32.DLL, SSLEAY32.DLL:
e.g. https://www.dll-files.com , https://www.npcglib.org/~stathis/blog/precompiled-openssl/ , https://indy.fulgan.com/SSL/Archive/
History and Bookmarks work. The tests are with the portable version (portableapps.com launcher).
Disable Javascript in the settings.ini.
[Web-Browser-Settings] allowJavaScript=false
Path Portable: ...\QupZillaPortable\Data\PROFILEUnfortunately, I did not find some old versions like 1.1.8 or 1.2 anymore, even on archive.org for the possibility to try an older dll of Qupzilla to enable JS. Presumably Javascript of those old browsers brings quite little.
https://github.com/QupZilla/qupzilla/blob/master/CHANGELOG
https://qupzilla-portable.en.uptodown.com/windows/versions
https://qupzilla.en.uptodown.com/windows/versions
KernelEx mode: Win2000SP4
https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/QupZilla Portable/The portable 1.3.5 already have Launcher 2.2.0, that doesn't work on ME/98. The Launcher can be replaced by the next older Launcher 2.1.2.
Because I couldn't find any older versions, I built it myself with the PortableAppsLauncherGenerator 2.1.2 and NSISPortable 2.46.1.https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/NSIS Portable/Additional Versions/
The successor of Qupzilla is Falkon browser.
I assembled a first API list:I started experimenting with DX10/11 , mesa, wine files, like dwrite.dll, libwine.dll, wined3d.dll. Apparently there are mandatory dependencies for Falkon here.
For testing I have to enable among others [D3D9.DLL]Direct3DCreate9Ex, [msvcrt.dll]memmove_s=>ucrtbase.dll:, [KERNEL32.DLL]InitOnceBeginInitialize=o4e, CompareStringEx=z9e.
I can't leave them on permanently because various errors result in other programs. I enable them for testing only.
Is there a Falkon browser setting to prevent these calls similar to Firefox "layers.acceleration.enabled;false", "webgl.angle.try-d3d11;false"?Dooble Browser
https://web.archive.org/web/20140214122603/http://dooble.sourceforge.net/
https://dooble.en.uptodown.com/windows/versionshttps://www.pcworld.pl/ftp/wersje/pc_122625/dooble-web-browser.html
Dooble.exe files can be unpacked with 7Zip, too.1.30 runs on ME/98. Extremely unstable with JS enabled. Javascript can be disabled in the Dooble.ini ([settingsWindow] javascriptEnabled=false). The profile name is ".dooble" and is in the program folder (...\DoobleBrowser\.dooble\Dooble\Dooble.ini).
1.43 (2013): Start it once. After the crash disable JS (see above). And try to start Dooble again. If this doesn't work, run it on XP and disable Javascript. Afterwards use the new profile on ME. On XP the profile name is OS user name (...\DoobleBrowser\-username-\.dooble). 1.43 crashes immediately with JS enabled.
Updated: libeay32.dll 1.0.2.21, ssleay32.dll 1.0.2.21, libssl32.dll 1.0.2.7
I can't find some Dooble versions anymore, also not on archive.org.KernelEx mode: Win2000SP4
QTWeb Internet Browser
Development has been discontinued. But the Website is still online. Latest version 3.8.5 (2013). It already supports TLS 1.2.
http://www.qtweb.net/
3.8.5 runs on ME/98. Javascript must be disabled. Before you allow internet access you must disable JS, otherwise QT Web will crash. Or set JS in the registry to disabled: (HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\QtWeb.NET\QtWeb Internet Browser\websettings) String enableJavascript to false.Portable version: Profile folder > ...\QTWebBrowser\QtWebSettings\QtWeb.NET > QtWeb Internet Browser.ini [websettings] enableJavascript=false
KernelEx mode: Win2000SP4
Slimboat - latest version 1.1.54 (2015) It crashes on start.
After a web search I have versions 1.1.17 and higher. I also found an older version 1.1.8 (2012) on my HDD.
QtWebKit4.dll 4.9.3 can be replaced by an older version (e.g. of SB 1.1.8) to start without error. Don't take QtWebKit4.dll of 1.1.17 or newer.Configuration version 1.1.52 (2014), with older QtWebKit4.dll (4.7.4), libeay32.dll 1.0.2.11, ssleay32.dll 1.0.2.11.
Problem - versions 1.1.53 and 1.1.54: Disabled SSL 3.0 protocol disables TLS 1.2, too! This is probably unwanted and a bug.
Changelog 1.1.53: "Added option to disable SSL 3.0 protocol to avoid POODLE attack. SSL 3.0 protocol is disabled by default. If you wish to connect to legacy websites supporting only SSL 3.0, you can turn it on in Tools:options:security."
Configuration: QtWebKit4.dll (4.7.4), libeay32.dll 1.0.2.21, ssleay32.dll 1.0.2.21
Javascript doesn't matter.
Portable: The setup exe can be unpacked with 7Zip (no installation). Delete $PLUGINSDIR and $TEMP. Then create a file settings.ini in the SB program folder with entry
[General]
AppDataInProgDir=1The profile folder appdata appears on SB start.
https://www.afterdawn.com/software/network/browsers/slimboat.cfm/v1_1_17#all_versions The versions below (1.1.17 - 1.1.54) have the wrong name.. Slimjet = Slimboat
https://de.dll-files.com/qtwebkit4.dll.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20150211174715/http://www.slimboat.com/en/whatisnew.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20150211175203/http://www.slimboat.com/en/dlpage.php
KernelEx mode: Win2000SP4
Versions 1.1.33 and higher require Kext or KernelEx core updates. KernelEx 4.5.2 users can try version 1.1.32.
Not usable:
Midori Browser doesn't quite fit in here.
Version 0.46 (2012) works, but is nearly unusable. Apparently no https, no TLS 1.2 support. 0.47 comes with a new libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0.dll and Midori causes an error in that dll on start. Disabling JS doesn't help in this case. KernelEx mode: Win2000SP4
Anyhow Midori versions are available on archive.org.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130707011718/http://www.twotoasts.de/
https://web.archive.org/web/20131201000000*/http://www.twotoasts.de/
Xombrero keyboard controlled browser (discontinued) - latest version 1.6.3 (2013) on sourceforge
https://sourceforge.net/projects/xxxterm/files/
missing APIs (Hresult)
[USP10.dll]
ScriptItemizeOpenType=
ScriptPlaceOpenType=
ScriptShapeOpenType=It starts with error in libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0.dll like Midori!
On XP Xombrero runs by replacing USP10.dll by the file of vista. But in my opinion it isn't really usable anymore.
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On 10/16/2022 at 5:36 PM, Goodmaneuver said:
Only use DW in BASE mode do not profile in NT or above modes.
Sure I know - I tested all modes an yes profiling in NT and above doesn't work. DW cannot hook modules. What I said is as far as I can see, I get the same results no matter whether DWalker is in the KernelEx folder or not, as well as with environment variables set. It's just bad having all the red boxes in the List and Tree Views too, though there is API support by KernelEx. For example it's very time consuming to find missing API's.
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On 9/28/2022 at 11:33 PM, Goodmaneuver said:
Just map the KernelEx folder as a known environment and DW will work. That is all that is required. Add KernelEx folder path to AutoExec.bat line SET PATH=
I'd tried it and set the environment variable in the meantime, but I can't recognise any difference. I also started DW from KernelEx folder. I don't see, that this solves any issues. What is improving?
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Maybe DW Version 2.2.10011 built on 29 October 2015 is the latest and yes it requires KernelEx. So far I have only used the older version 2.2.6000.
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Am I correct the problem occurs with following conditions:
Win ME
DDR3 or 4
KernelEx25 (v2) latest?
Kexbases:
EnumerateLoadedModules64 (ITO Stub)
StackWalk64 (ITO Stub)
SymGetLineFromAddr (ITO Stub)
SymGetSymFromAddr64 (ITO Stub)These API's are supported by Imagehlp of ME, but not of Imagehlp of 98SE.
In the past I tested different versions of Imagehlp up to 6.1.7601.17514 (Win7SP1). Currently I use 5.1.2600.6198 (XP) on my main machine. But I also had used 5.0.2195.6613 (2K) and 4.0.1381.4 (98SE), but that doesn't matter here because I don't have a DDR3 or 4 machine.
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I would like to confirm this suspicion, but I have no DDR3 or DDR4 machine.
The "Module Dependency Tree" looks good for user32 on my DDR2 machine.
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=p1: Still no GUI
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Firefox 54: I added [ntdll.dll] RtlDecodePointer= and RtlEncodePointer= to Kstub. Then no (error) message appears, but Firefox runs in the background only. Xul.dll is loaded. Currently version Central 54.0a1 (February 10, 2017) is still the newest I can start and run with UI.
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Have you tested which Firefox version is the last with support for vxd drivers?
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44 minutes ago, retrotrash69 said:
logged in successfully within Firefox, I believe it's version 10. Can't get a higher version to work due to the probably bugged KernelEx,
You can't run higher versions than Firefox 10 with KernelEX 4.5.2!
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I haven't specifically tested with vxd sound drivers yet. There is no help from my side for now.
One small step - a tiny news concerning higher versions: I have Firefox 53.03 and IceWeasel 53.2 with Firefox en-US language pack running now.
K-Meleon 76: I got with builds, around June and July, a considerable slowdown on some sites, almost a freeze, also msfn bord, after a short time. It seem to be fixed with KM76.4.6-Goanna-20220813.
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On 8/17/2022 at 8:10 PM, retrotrash69 said:
Winsslwrap confused me right at the beginning, when the post mentioned "blackwingcatopenssl files" and "configuring apps to localhost"...
I think it would be easier to understand in the format of a how to for absolute beginners
Downlod Windows 9x SSL Protocol WinSSLWrap 1.17 (Rev 08)
http://www.htasoft.com/u98sesp/download98ssl.php
The installer should work on 98SE.Install: You have to choose the instruction set of your CPU SSE or SSE2 (Pentium 4 or higher => SSE2).
I think I installed it manually on ME:
SSE2 CPU
- extracted with 7Zip
- SSL2.cab files into the program folder - name "SSL Protocol"
- Sys2.cab files into System folder
- created a shortcut to Wrap.exe on the Quick Launch / Taskbar ("C:\Program Files\SSL Protocol\WRAP.EXE") - no autostart
- Configuration - see above
SSLWrap must be running before you start the MailClient
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18 hours ago, retrotrash69 said:
appears to connect to the server but I do not receive mail and I cannot send it without it going into a password loop.
1 hour ago, retrotrash69 said:It connects to the server but does not receive mail and does not send it.
I usually had this due to wrong settings. Can you create another basic eMail account, not Gmail, as a kind of cross-check.
1 hour ago, retrotrash69 said:The version of Firefox I have, does not display almost any webpage at all.
Yes, I checked this. Firefox 27 renders the login page rather OK and it seems to be functional. It isn't functional on Firefox 9.0.1 (with RT's nss updates).
1 hour ago, retrotrash69 said:Again I am having issues with KernelEx and have not yet gotten any xp-only program to run whatsoever...
There are only a few things be taken into account during installation.
Paste the unicows.dll version 1.1.3790.0 (download dll-files.com) in your system folder. Don't install an older unicows.dll version! Then install KernelEX 4.5.2 - Reboot.
http://kernelex.sourceforge.net/wiki/Help:Contents
Win ME is my main OS. And I use eMail clients - usually Thunderbird 52 and OutlookExpress 6 - here, but of course nowadays with KernelEx. I don't have an GMail Account since many years.
In my opinion it should be still possible to use an eMail client also without KernelEx today. What are your questions about 9x SSL Protocol WinSSLWrap? At which point you can't get any further?
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5 hours ago, retrotrash69 said:
Gmail on the web does not display on RetroZilla for me, the login page is probably Javascript or something.. The text box won't show up and therefore won't let me sign in. Would be great if it did work, would save all this trouble....
AFAIK RZ has no JS updates. You need at least Firefox 27 or 31 or corresponding forks, but that's not for sure (not testet).
GMail POP SMTP IMAP:
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Did you try latest Retrozilla version. I think thats it:
http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/rzbrowser-tls12-20200127.7zhttp://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/retrozilla-suite-tls12-20200131.7z
I tested RZ and I was able to receive and send. I have set for smtp and pop TLS, TLS 1.2 is supported, too, POP > no secure authentication and smtp > use Name and Password.
KernelEx: It doesn't mean that you can run every XP program on ME/98. I never had tested Pop Peeper.
9x SSL Protocol WinSSLWrap should work with old 9x compatible eMail programs. It supports the necessary protocols, but of course the eMail program and WinSSLWrap need the appropriate matching settings. Services Configuration: POP or IMAP and, SMTP.
e.g.: POP3 {SSL} Protocol: Enabled, SSL Tunnel, localhost, Listen Port 110 (then also Port 110 in the eMail program), Remote Host (pop.gmail.com) and Port see Help of your provider, use SSL for remote checked
SMTP {SSL} Protocol: Enabled, SSL Tunnel, localhost, Listen Port 25 (then also Port 25 in the eMail program), Remote Host (smtp.gmail.com) and Port see Help of your provider, use SSL for remote checked
eMail prog setting:
PegasusMail - Yes, I see they removed older versions. https://www.afterdawn.com/software/network/email/pegasus.cfm/v4_51
The old versions are available on archive.org.
https://web.archive.org/web/20100404035641/http://www.pmail.com/downloads_s3_t.htm
no files on communityPM:
https://web.archive.org/web/20150428030235/http://community.pmail.com/files/5/default.aspx
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Without KernelEx:
Outlook Express (6sp1 here) still works with Windows 9x SSL Protocol WinSSLWrap!
https://msfn.org/board/topic/174247-windows-9x-ssl-protocol-winsslwrap-117-rev-08/ It should also work with other eMail programs.
Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Seamonkey 1.1.19) ? - currently no longer used
DreamMail 4.6.8.2 ? - no longer in use
With KernelEx:
Thunderbird 3.1.20 ? / 9.0.1 ? / 10.0.12 ? - currently not testet - RT's "Network Security Services" updates should work for TB 9.0.1 (Seamonkey 2.6.1) and 10.0.12, too. http://o.rthost.win/gpc/files1.rt/Firefox10-new-nss.7z
Pegasus Mail ? - currently not tested http://kernelex.sourceforge.net/wiki/Pegasus_Mail
+ core updates
Thunderbird 52.9.1 https://msfn.org/board/topic/181424-firefox-24-52-for-me-and-98/ note the intructions - the account wizard doesn't work yet
Google Chrome 48/9 on Windows me
in Windows 9x Member Projects
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There is no workaround yet, but who knows what's in a year. I have hardly dealt with Chrome in the last weeks or months. And what about the cryptographic support TLS 1.2/1.3? Google chrome doesn't support it itself. There is a solution for XP (POSReady 2009 updates...), but I don't think there's a simple solution to transfer that to ME. TLS 1.2 is standard today and browsing is almost no longer possible without it. I believe we're not far away to run IE7 or 8. Of course, those IE browsers are very old and obsolete and don't support TLS 1.2, too.
I see valid hope for Mypal 68 in the near future.
Currently the best and most modern browser I have is Palemoon (31) on the mypal 29.3 "engine" (xul, omni.ja,...). The advantage I've is that this configuration is significantly more stable than Mypal. Errors in Xul usually do not occur.