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    Firefox 24 - 52 for ME and 98

    in Windows 9x Member Projects

    Posted

    On 5/14/2023 at 11:23 AM, jumper said:

    Still waiting to hear what happens when Dwm.dll is redirected to LZ32.dll. The new resolver should handle any missing dependencies or and tell us exactly what to do.

    Sorry for late response. I had partly little time and was away, too. I had not made any progress with Firefox 54+. For details I need more tests and have to repeat some. I have too little notes.

    Other Trials: XomPie files are loaded, but do not bring any progress, if forwarding to them. Maybe there are just stubs only. I'll see, if I can load BCW wrappers with the help of Kext.

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    Firefox 24 - 52 for ME and 98

    in Windows 9x Member Projects

    Posted

    Hello Chris46, this has probably not been noticed until now, because apparently no one uses Avast here anymore. I had removed it years ago. ClamWin has newer definitions.  I scan on suspicion. I also still have AVG 7.5 (defs 2018), Antivir (defs 2012) and Spybot 1.6.2 (latest defs) installed. These are disabled and I use them seldom for file scan only.

    5 hours ago, Chris46 said:

    For anyone who likes Bookmarks instead of Favorites, I’ve found a workaround.  Install FF31.8 on a Win2K or WinXP machine, edit/create bookmarks. Replace the Win98 build profile with the entire Win2K profile. Once run, the profile will be adapted for Win98 and the bookmarks will work.

    I'm aware of that possiblity and I use bookmarks, too. It is on the first page under issues. "The History and the Bookmarks created on XP can be used on ME/98."

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    Firefox 24 - 52 for ME and 98

    in Windows 9x Member Projects

    Posted

    Yes, these are with the current "kext configuration" the best values. But these are exactly the ones I had before.

    I tried to load DWMAPI.dll of Win7. The file is mandatory. The early version 6.0.5270.9 loads, but might not be sufficient. First I have to enable Bool - IsThreadDesktopComposited (user32) and then RtlInitializeGenericTable (ntdll). RtlInitializeGenericTable is a pointer (return value none). This is problematic., because various errors occur. Do I have a possibility here without waiting for the Kex update? Also there are subsequently other calls. 1005 (ordinal) GDI32, 1554 (ordinal) User32, _except_handler4_common and more.

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    Firefox 24 - 52 for ME and 98

    in Windows 9x Member Projects

    Posted

    Avrt.dll win7

    On 5/7/2023 at 6:00 AM, jumper said:

    Change:

    On 5/6/2023 at 8:39 PM, schwups said:

    ;-- C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\AVRT.DLL --;

    Exports

    [AVRT.DLL]

    Then add "..\system\avrt.dll" to Contents=

    I guess my configuration is still wrong or perhaps KernelEx simply doesn't work this way. I'm not sure.

    I've Avrt.dll (renamed kexstubs dll file) and avrt.ini in the system folder. So no real avrt.dll (these are renamed).

    Core.ini contents line: contents=DX10,Kstub825,std,Kexbasen,Kexbases,Falkon,..\system\avrt.dll,Uxth,Mypal,KexVista

    I also tried the whole Path C:\windows\system\avrt.dll

    ini file now:

    ;-- C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\AVRT.DLL --;

    [AVRT.DLL]
    AvQuerySystemResponsiveness=
    AvRevertMmThreadCharacteristics=
    AvRtCreateThreadOrderingGroup=
    AvRtCreateThreadOrderingGroupExA=
    AvRtCreateThreadOrderingGroupExW=
    AvRtDeleteThreadOrderingGroup=
    AvRtJoinThreadOrderingGroup=
    AvRtLeaveThreadOrderingGroup=
    AvRtWaitOnThreadOrderingGroup=
    AvSetMmMaxThreadCharacteristicsA=
    AvSetMmMaxThreadCharacteristicsW=
    AvSetMmThreadCharacteristicsA=
    AvSetMmThreadCharacteristicsW=
    AvSetMmThreadPriority=

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    Firefox 24 - 52 for ME and 98

    in Windows 9x Member Projects

    Posted · Edited by schwups

    On 5/8/2023 at 6:29 PM, jumper said:

    If the app is multiprocess, all processes must be terminated. Firefox54 and other browsers might be. Check with a process viewer and try logging out.

    Does logging show the new definition, the old, or the wrong api entirely?

    It isn't, there's only one Firefox process. I didn't see new defs.

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    Firefox 24 - 52 for ME and 98

    in Windows 9x Member Projects

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    DW Profiling excerpt: If I had counted correctly the exception occurs 5 times after NLSDL.DLL.

    DllMain(0x7FE80000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "OLEAUT32.DLL" called by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x7FE80000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "OLEAUT32.DLL" returned 1 (0x1) by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x00960000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "AVRT.DLL" called by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x00960000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "AVRT.DLL" returned 1 (0x1) by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x03130000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "XUL.DLL" called by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x03130000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "XUL.DLL" returned 1 (0x1) by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x7C340000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "MSVCR71.DLL" called by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x7C340000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "MSVCR71.DLL" returned 1 (0x1) by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x01FF0000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "BLOCK.DLL" called by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x01FF0000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "BLOCK.DLL" returned 1 (0x1) by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x7C140000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "MFC71.DLL" called by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x7C140000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "MFC71.DLL" returned 1 (0x1) by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x02000000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "AVMUFC.DLL" called by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x02000000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "AVMUFC.DLL" returned 1 (0x1) by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x009D0000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "SARAH.DLL" called by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x009D0000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "SARAH.DLL" returned 1 (0x1) by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x009F0000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "NLSDL.DLL" called by thread 0xE0B97701.
    DllMain(0x009F0000, DLL_THREAD_ATTACH, 0x00000000) in "NLSDL.DLL" returned 1 (0x1) by thread 0xE0B97701.
    First chance exception 0x406D1388 (Thread was named) occurred in "XUL.DLL" at address 0x0378AF59 by thread 0xE0B97701 "JS Helper".

    18 hours ago, Goodmaneuver said:

    Your browsers will want to go back and forth with both LocaleNameToLCID and LCIDToLocaleName so just doing one API is not a good test. It is good you have a solution though.

    Yes, the had tested both together. Only LocaleNameToLCID >NLSDL:DownlevelLocaleNameToLCID produces the problem. Apparently z2e is also not a solution to fix this exception, assuming that this is, where the error comes from. On FF 16th start, I see the window flash for a split second.

    Basically the function LocaleNameToLCID=>NLSDL:DownlevelLocaleNameToLCID is very promising:

    This function is used only by applications that run on pre-Windows Vista operating systems. Its use requires a download package. Applications that only run on Windows Vista and later should call LocaleNameToLCID to retrieve a locale identifier.

    The two others GetParentLocaleLCID and GetParentLocaleName aren't called.

    Multiprocessing and sandboxing is another trace. In the period of early 2017 was worked on the sandboxing feature: Electrolysis, Firefox's multi-process architecture, is the prerequisite for Firefox's sandboxing feature as it makes use of child processes to establish security boundaries. https://www.ghacks.net/2017/01/23/how-to-change-firefoxs-sandbox-security-level/. The message "couldn't load broker services" obviously refers to this. This message appears with Kex API logging and breaks FF54 start already shortly after loading XUL.

    Environment variables like

    SET MOZ_DISABLE_OOP_PLUGINS=1
    SET MOZ_DISABLE_GMP_SANDBOX=1
    SET MOZ_FORCE_DISABLE_E10S=1
    SET MOZ_DISABLE_CONTENT_SANDBOX =1

    don't seem to have an effect, because e10s is probably still blocked/disabled due to my insufficient system.

    Generally, to be sure,  I have some prefs already set, too.

    user_pref("browser.tabs.remote.autostart.", false);
    user_pref("browser.tabs.remote.autostart.2", false);
    user_pref("dom.ipc.processCount", 1);

    ...

     

     

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    Firefox 24 - 52 for ME and 98

    in Windows 9x Member Projects

    Posted

    I think I am very close to run Firefox 54. Avrt.dll BWC used. Test version now Firefox nightly of 16th Feb crashes on start. DW profiling gives an exception:

    First chance exception 0x406D1388 (Thread was named) occurred in "XUL.DLL" at address 0x0378AF59 by thread 0xFFCDF307 "JS Helper".

    This happened by some threads. I found with Procwin in xul at the address 0x0378AF59 "RaiseException". (supported by Kernel32))

    There's no second exception.

    Firefox crashlog gives as reason "MozCrashReason=MOZ_CRASH(Attempt to construct a semaphore from an invalid handle!)"

    Another App-killer can be a message "couldn't load broker services".

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    Firefox 24 - 52 for ME and 98

    in Windows 9x Member Projects

    Posted

    On 5/6/2023 at 9:13 AM, Goodmaneuver said:

    [KERNEL32]
    GetParentLocaleLCID=>NLSDL:DownlevelGetParentLocaleLCID
    GetParentLocaleName=>NLSDL:DownlevelGetParentLocaleName
    LCIDToLocaleName=>NLSDL:DownlevelLCIDToLocaleName
    LocaleNameToLCID=>NLSDL:DownlevelLocaleNameToLCID

    I tried LCIDToLocaleName=>NLSDL:DownlevelLCIDToLocaleName and LocaleNameToLCID=>NLSDL:DownlevelLocaleNameToLCID. The second produced an error in Kernel32 after browser close, that I could simply click away. So I'm back to z2e.

     

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    Firefox 24 - 52 for ME and 98

    in Windows 9x Member Projects

    Posted · Edited by schwups

    17 hours ago, jumper said:

    Try cloning kstub825.dll. Use Kexports on Avrt.dll to get a list of exports to use for definitions. Put the new Avrt files in Windows\System so KernelEx will work on it.

    I copied the two files (Avrunt.dll (kstub825.dll), Avrunt.DLL.ini) into the system folder and added Avrunt to core.ini [BASE]
    contents. Renamed Avrunt.DLL.ini to Avrunt.ini. On restart KernelEx didn't work.

    Avrt.dll.ini is a simple export list. Is there somthing to edit/define from my side or does KernelEx can handle it as it is?

    ;-- C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\AVRT.DLL --;

    Exports
     AvQuerySystemResponsiveness
     AvRevertMmThreadCharacteristics
     AvRtCreateThreadOrderingGroup
     AvRtCreateThreadOrderingGroupExA
     AvRtCreateThreadOrderingGroupExW
     AvRtDeleteThreadOrderingGroup
     AvRtJoinThreadOrderingGroup
     AvRtLeaveThreadOrderingGroup
     AvRtWaitOnThreadOrderingGroup
     AvSetMmMaxThreadCharacteristicsA
     AvSetMmMaxThreadCharacteristicsW
     AvSetMmThreadCharacteristicsA
     AvSetMmThreadCharacteristicsW
     AvSetMmThreadPriority

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    Firefox 24 - 52 for ME and 98

    in Windows 9x Member Projects

    Posted

    6 hours ago, Goodmaneuver said:

    The latest UNICOWS is not real friendly with WinME and is designed for other OS with the delay loaded Ldr functions. 4018 has all of the latest APIs without LdrUnloadDll and LdrLoadDll. So I use 4018 without any issues.

    It sometimes takes a little time, I do have a faint memory now. These are stubbed in Kexbases. Now I want to get back to Firefox.

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    Firefox 24 - 52 for ME and 98

    in Windows 9x Member Projects

    Posted

    2 hours ago, Goodmaneuver said:
    3 hours ago, jumper said:

    Kex25 not seen.

    Yes that's right I am using 4.5.2 which will show when reading the DLLs as 4.5.12.

     

    2 hours ago, Goodmaneuver said:
    3 hours ago, jumper said:

    Your configuration is a mess.

    Maybe but I do not know how you have determined this. I have got the programs to run that stopped running with KEX25 and earlier.

     

    2 hours ago, Goodmaneuver said:
    3 hours ago, jumper said:

    Do not mix-and-match from different KernelEx versions.

    I did not mix 4.5.2 modules as seen but I did use your KernelEx.dll for convenience and so I can use your Kstubs.dll. Thankyou.

    I have several ME machines, where I can do different things.

     

    2 hours ago, Goodmaneuver said:
    3 hours ago, jumper said:

    Use all latest KernelEx and aux. files and the correct Unicows.

    The UXTHEME from BWC is OK. The latest UNICOWS is not real friendly with WinME and is designed for other OS with the delay loaded Ldr functions. 4018 has all of the latest APIs without LdrUnloadDll and LdrLoadDll. So I use 4018 without any issues.

    Trying out different versions and jump between them makes sense for troubleshooting. I'm not aware of unicows 4018. I had always used 1.1.3790.0. I don't see LdrUnloadDll and LdrLoadDll. Uxtheme of ROS 0.4 or 2k or XP loads on my main machine (Kex25/Kext), too.

    2 hours ago, Goodmaneuver said:
    3 hours ago, jumper said:

    Do not use post-XP files. Do not use files from other extenders.

    Why not as 3rd party apps require them and they are used here in this topic.

    Yes, these will not always be avoidable.

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    Firefox 24 - 52 for ME and 98

    in Windows 9x Member Projects

    Posted · Edited by schwups

    9 hours ago, jumper said:

    Can you load Avrt.dll in a dll loader such as Ktree or Procwin?

    I can't load Avrt Win 7 (6.1.7600.16385) with Procwin! Message: Can not load library. With Kex comp. mode Win 7 on AVRT.dll the window opens and then Procwin hangs.

    Nothing happens, if I try to load Avrt BWC. No message - no window. I see the same behaviour with other dlls and I conclude that means it loads. I think the missing window is a special error on my system, that also needs to be investigated.

    KTree (Avrt BWC):  Window Ok => C:\...\AVRT.DLL -  but <Missing: get_api_table()>

    ??

    KTree (Avrt Win7): Blank and it hangs.

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    Firefox 24 - 52 for ME and 98

    in Windows 9x Member Projects

    Posted

    First of all, thank you both very much. Indeed I'd BWC avrt.dll from KB935839-v30fM-x86 on my HDD here. First this
    is the easiest test and it solves this hang, I get the GUI and have it running!  :roll1: This version has only three exports, the two called and one more. But I already have a new problem with the version of 16th. This requires further investigation. I may have rather worsened my kstubs the last few days.

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