jaclaz

HI, FDV. The files should be downloadable right now, however you can download a copy from here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M3D9KUMR Here are the posts that you should read first: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...=3717&st=31 (possible evolutions) http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...=3717&st=47 (base bulding setup) http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...=3717&st=63 (links to add mouse support) http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...=3717&st=68 (add USB support) As is, it is pretty much reserved to "knowledgeable" people, and since it uses the XP embedded minlogon component I doubt it can become "mainstream" any soon. So I guess that first step would be to restore the use of "normal" Winlogon, something it's months I would have liked to try doing, but that simply could not find time to even attempt. (and it is not to be taken as assumed that I have the "right" kind of knowledge to succeed ) What I am (very, very slowly) working at is booting it as HD image with grub4dos+firadisk, as to have a really "portable" mini-system. Anyway, hope that at least it gives you some ideas. Cheers, jaclaz

I seem not to find the specs for that model, most probably it has a "more complex name". Can you point it out? : ftp://ftp.viglen.co.uk/files/Notebooks/ jaclaz

JFYI: http://www.reocities.com/mfd4life_2000/ often works, learn more: http://www.reocities.com/ jaclaz

Yeah, it happened to my parka too : http://www.sickathanaverage.com/.a/6a00e55...866d1970b-800wi In the case of the parka it was the video card, and since it happens to both internal and external screen (you should actually see the inside of the parka ) I see no reason why it shouldn't be the case with your laptop. Let see if my crystal ball is tuned, post the exact model of the laptop, I can see that it has a Nvidia Geforce Go FX video card, possibly a 5700 (it could also be a 5200, the ball is slightly foggy around the actual number).... Now seriously , a number of videocards on laptops suffer from a problem due to bad BGA soldering or overheating, effect is anything from what you described to a complete blank screen. jaclaz

TODISK (MS-DOS / Win9x_MS-DOS_BOX): http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/todisk.html Partition Saving: http://damien.guibouret.free.fr/en/index_frame.html Roadkil's Diskimage: http://www.roadkil.net/program.php?ProgramID=12 jaclaz

Well if you want 100%, there is NO KNOWN way. No matter what bootmanager. jaclaz

Can somebody please answer. I am badly stuck. If you would be so kind to tell us what a SMPS is (should we know? ) it could help. jaclaz

There is no problem in making a setup so that 2 partitions are visible and 2 partitions are hidden, and choose which "couple" is visible and which is hidden when booting, but when you connect the drive to the "third" OS, let's say the XP on your friend PC, it will see EITHER one or the other "couple" of partitions, unless you use some tool (which you will have to have on BOTH couples of partitions in order to make sure that one is always visible) to hide/unhide the "other". I hope the sequence is clears if we call the first two partitins "XP1" and the second two "XP2", when booting you can choose to see "XP1" or "XP2", this setting is "sticky" until mext reboot, thus if you switch the system off when "XP1" was visible and you put the drive in your friends PC, only "XP1" will be visible (unless you use something to "change this situation). You do not even need a bootmanager, (if you want one, I can suggest grub4dos) http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/Grub4dos.htm but a simple "special" MBR should do: http://mbldr.sourceforge.net/ I have no idea what level of experience/knowledge you have of these tools or of these approaches, have a look at the docs in the meantime, then ask your questions. jaclaz

Boy how do I hate "philosophical" questions. The ones that have as subject "File A", "Directory B" and "Program C", and a "certain OS", and "another OS" Which actual, real OS is "OS1"? Which actual, real OS is "OS2"? You see, different OSses may have limits that could prevent the use or one or the other bootmanager, or a given partition order, and what not. Also, different OSses may already come with their own bootmanager capable of doing all the work. An OS (depending on WHICH OS it is) may be able to access the "other OS", another one may not. Boot virii tend to be pretty much OS agnostic, though. And which is the third OS that should see the 4 partition? How do you want them seen "untouched", modifying the disk is allowed, iusage of a program is allowed.... Can you post a detailed example of WHAT you would like to do? jaclaz

Well, the parsing approach with a FOR seems allright to me. What happens if on Command Line, NOT in a batch you issue: FOR /F "tokens=4" %A IN ('Echo.^|Command /C Date') DO ECHO %A (you should be able to copy and paste the above on command line. If you get the "mon" (BTW:you know your clock/calendar is 4 days late, don't you?) Try this: @FOR /F "tokens=1,4" %A IN ('Echo.^|Command /C Date') DO @IF %A.==Current. SET %A=%B&SET %A Read how for tokens/delimiters work: http://www.robvanderwoude.com/ntfortokens.php jaclaz

Well a SATA driver is NOT "standard" in XP. And expecially if connected through an add-on PCI card. But won't it be more logic to ask for help on the actual revosleep support board? : http://revosleep.realspooky.de/ http://revosleep.bboard.de/ they should know better about thir own app. jaclaz

...and Qemu .... jaclaz

Which actually translates to: ANY cloning application capable of a "forensic mode" will work, if used in "forensic mode". Because it is not "smart" enough. In these cases you could take a mixed approach and supply yourself the missing smartness of the program, like: backup the needed sectors that NEED to remain as they are (forensic quality clone of a limited number of sectors) image the drive (in a " smart" way) restore the image (in a " smart" way) restore the backed up bunch of sectors jaclaz

Only too glad of having been of help. jaclaz

It's really DOS? Or is it Command Prompt of a NT based system? Like 2K, XP or Vista or 7? The answer is however already in the given links, have you checked them (hint: last one may do if not "pure" DOS ) jaclaz

Can you post the output of (in a command window) ECHO %DATE% [ENTER] Then post the output of DATE [ENTER] and DATE /T [ENTER] and Echo.|Command /C Date [ENTER] ? AND read this : http://www.robvanderwoude.com/datetime.php (and pages linked to, expecially these): http://www.robvanderwoude.com/datetimentmath.php before posting the said info. Which OS are you running? Check these, too : http://support.mogware.net/index.php?topic=930.0 http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-x...eek/152202.html jaclaz

Please note how we are talking NOT about a RS-232 interface but about a TTL one. I.E. one of these: COMn->RS-232toTTL->Hard disk USB->USBtoRS-232->RS-232toTTL->Hard disk USB->USBtoTTL->Hard disk Connecting a RS-232 to the the hard disk may fry it for good. jaclaz

I've different experience:NT4 SP1 boot sector and setupldr.bin does work at -iso-level 4. The installation does complete. 2000 SP1 boot sector and setupldr.bin does work at -iso-level 4. The installation does complete. I take for good your report , maybe it's just NTLDR (and not SETUPLDR.BIN) that has problems or maybe I remembered about SP0, you know how my memory is fading away and it is a bit of time since I experimented. It can also be that since the NT and 2K install files are "kosher" 8.3 CAPITAL LETTERS, the iso-level on a "plain" install CD does not make any difference, and the problems I seem to remember were on some more multiboot/complex thingies. jaclaz

No news, AFAIK. The ones that are working right now are these "styles" (see above): jaclaz

I may add: mscdex reads iso-level 3 and partially iso-level 4 as detailed above shsucdx (that can be used under MS-DOS allright) reads iso-level 4 allright NT/2K NTLDR/SETUPLDR.BIN read iso-level 3 but has usually problems with iso-level 4 XP SETUPLDR/NTLDR read iso-level 4 allright jaclaz

Well, you need to get into it by pressing the appropriate key while booting, common keys are listed here: http://www.wimsbios.com/faq/howtogetintoyourcomputerbios.jsp http://michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm Being a Toshiba it is likely to use a "set" of keys, like Esc then F1. jaclaz

I still have the advantage on you : http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...1702&st=123 You should have more respect for something that in good and bad times, and with good and bad results, has accompanied us over the years. Unrelated, but not much: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2905953.stm Why, in my day.... http://tinyapps.org/blog/2007/02/index.html ...and we LIKED it! jaclaz

Short answer: Yes. Long answer: You have 640 Kb of lower memory available. How much of it is free after booting to DOS? How much memory do you need in DOS for programs you run? Sometimes a few Kb moved to Upper Memory may make a difference, most of the time it doesn't. @dencorso Are you old enough to remember MEMMAKER? http://www.easydos.com/memmaker.html jaclaz

Good. Another set of happy bunnies : http://www.msfn.org/board/cant-access-repa...16-page-10.html jaclaz

@fdv As always GREAT work. Maybe I can convince you into getting interested in another approach. (the one I actually believe the most in, but that surprisingly enough I found no actual interested in people) http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=3717 Have patience boot-land has problems in this period and sometimes is slow/inaccessible. This may also clear some points: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5775 The general idea is: unlike XPlite that removes things after install unlike nlite and your filesets that remove things before install to start with the real minimum core and add ONLY what you want to (and if you miss something you can always add it later). It sounds just "right" for the "car thingy". jaclaz P.S.: Also this thingy here: http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...c=23553&hl= http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...ic=9830&hl= may interest you....