Brando569

sheiksoft you asked to totally different questiong the topic says which is the most user friendly os and the poll says which is th best os well im pretty sure we all know what the most user friendly OS is... but the BEST one? thats a tough call, i voted for windows cuz for about the past 3 years ive been messing around with linux on and off and have NEVER been 100% successful/satisfied with the results..... i have tried: Redhat 7&8- they ran too slow for me... Fedora Core 3- there were a few things i didnt like about it, i forget what though... Gentoo (multiple times)- the (full) installation process is wayyy too long, ive tried the quick install and still that takes really long, since you have to emerge your Desktop Manager and compile it (takes EXTREMELY long), Open Office and other things which take a long time... i think ive been trying to install it since Gentoo 2003.1 to this day i have never had a 100% successful installation. the farthest ive gotten was with 2005.0 ive gotten everything to install correctly (except with grub screwing me up....) and no matter what i do i cant get any Desktop Manager to compile correctly. Ive tried KDE, GNOME, IceWM and FluxBox and all of them will give me an error at some point. Ive tried atleast 2 versions of KDE (the one included in the emerge database in gentoo which i belive is 3.2 and ive tried using Konstruct which is KDEs version of emerge/appget or whatever its called... sometimes Konstruct will give me errors dealing with the file integrity [md5 errors or the like] and other times it'll compile around 25 out of 70 packages flawlessly then it'll break on 26 and theres nothing i can do about it) Mandrake 9.2 Personal- didnt like it, very limited, didnt include anything for development/compiling of d/led packages Mandrake 10 PowerPack-so far ive liked this the best. it has an easy install, is easily configured and stuff but the one main thing that turned me away from it was that u need to pay for the updates Debian 3- the installation was just like gentoo it was all console based and was a pain in the butt LibraNet 2.something (whatever the free version is, the newest old one)- this was pretty good but APTGET or whatever its called wouldnt work when i wanted to update/download something. i would check all of the 14 or so depositories it had listed (source and DEB packages) and it says it couldnt find certain things even though they were listed in the update list when i queried the server! ex. i tried to upgrade to Kernel-2.6.x and it says its not found when it had all the stuff for it listed! SuSE 8 or 9- tried it awhile ago, cant remember what i didnt liek about it.... i think linux is the best for security and stableness, but you need to really know what your doing! another good thing is around 80%+ of the software/actual Distros are free on the other hand Windows is really good but is extremely expensive for the Server OSes and greater. Windows is great for computer unsavy person, especially XP, it pretty much tells you how to do everything.. (click here to see newly installed programs! etc...) i feel that MS is too money hungry.... IMHO i like XP Pro better then any Distro of Linux so far. its alot easier to use, and gives me no where near as many problems as linux does. plus i like tweaking windows and creating a "personalized" install cd and all that good stuff. AFAIK you cant do that with linux...

i voted XP Pro, i once tried 2003 server and the key i had didnt work then i got a tweaked version from a friend and havent really tried it out, i installed it played with it a few mins and was like ehh i dont really like it. thats also what i said when xp came out (i was runnin 2000 pro) now its all i use, i went back to 2000 pro and couldnt stand it! sooner or later im gonna give 2003 another try, although its gonna take some getting used to... cuz in xp pro i use all the pretty themes and stuff, such as the side panel, i love that thing now, at first i hated it, but now i love it..... i guess i shall try the tweaked 2003 server

close enough thanks

does anyone know of a tweak for "user must change password at next logon"? i searched the file but couldnt find it...

so im guessing the nesting can only go three deep so i guess i can say good bye to the idea of the program groups that i have..... EDIT i just noticed the shortcut thing does work as of right now i have no problems... but im sure ill be back posting about something else since this doesnt go nearly as smooth as batch file coding.....

but mine IS inside the <items> tag: <XPlode4> <config> <tokens> <token username="Bran" password="123" /> </tokens> <!--Add custom environment variables--> <environment> <!-- strings for the original display plugin --> <display.title>XPlode Installation</display.title> <display.complete>Done</display.complete> <!-- strings for the acctmgmt plugin, #1# is replaced by the username/groupname--> <acctmgmt.adduser>Adding user: #1#</acctmgmt.adduser> <acctmgmt.deluser>Deleting user: #1#</acctmgmt.deluser> <acctmgmt.addgroup>Adding group: #1#</acctmgmt.addgroup> <acctmgmt.delgroup>Deleting group: #1#</acctmgmt.delgroup> <!-- strings for the adduser plugin, #1# is replaced by the program --> <execute.string>Executing: #1#</execute.string> <!-- strings for the misc plugin --> <misc.netstart>Starting #1#</misc.netstart> <misc.netstop>Stopping #1#</misc.netstop> <!-- strings for the registry plugin --> <registry.read>Reading from registry</registry.read> <registry.write>Writing to registry</registry.write> </environment> <display plugin='#XPLODE#\XPlodeOriginalInstall.x4d'> <show total='6' after='4' subcount='true' /> <font face='Verdana' antialias='true' small='8' large='13' /> <!-- note the position attribute - it is listed in 'x,y' positions. 0..8 still may be used. --> <window width='420' height='200' position='4' /> <windowmode border='true' ontop='true' /> <colours> <!-- the text colour and position for the header text --> <header x='4' y='4' fore='#FFFFFF' image='%xplode%\images\head.gif'/> <!-- the text colour and position for the footer. width tells XPlode how wide the footer is (including progress) --> <footer x='4' y='180' width='410' fore='#FFFFFF' image='%xplode%\images\foot.gif'/> <!-- standard progress bar colours --> <progress border='#000000' back='#FFFFFF' fore='#008800' /> <!-- text colours, position and width for the items listing --> <main x='16' y='40' width='388' fore='#FFFFFF' current='#FFFF00' description='#FFFF80' overlay='#FFFFFF44' image='%xplode%\images\main.gif'/> </colours> </display> </config> <items> <item display="Installing Programs"> <item display="Logitech Programs"> <execute display="iTouch"> <program>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\logitech\keyboard\setup.exe</program> <arguments>/s</arguments> <hide>true</hide> </execute> <execute display="MouseWare"> <program>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\logitech\mouse\setup.exe</program> <arguments>/s</arguments> <hide>true</hide> </execute> <execute display="QuickCam"> <program>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\logitech\quickcam\appinst\setup.exe</program> <arguments>/S /V/qn /noreboot</arguments> <hide>true</hide> </execute> </item> </item> </items> </XPlode4> and the shortcut still wont work for me... <item> <execute display="Trillian v3.1 Pro"> <program>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\trillianv3.1.exe</program> <arguments>/S</arguments> <hide>true</hide> </execute> <fileio-shortcut display="Adding Trillian To Quicklaunch"> <link>#Appdata#\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\trillian.lnk</link> <target>#programfiles#\trillian\trillian.exe</target> <workdir>#programfiles#\trillian</workdir> </fileio-shortcut> </item>

ok that fixes the shortcut problems now do you have any idea whats wrong with the logitech Group? I tried making a Mozilla Group too but it gives me the same error...

(i would of added this to my last post but sometimes the board wont let me edit my posts for some odd reason ) it seems like the shortcuts dont work at all for me my code: <item> <execute display="Trillian v3.1 Pro"> <program>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\trillianv3.1.exe</program> <arguments>/S</arguments> <hide>true</hide> <fileio-shortcut display="Adding Tp Quicklaunch"> <link>#Appdata#\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\trillian.lnk</link> <target>#programfiles#\trillian\trillian.exe</target> <workdir>#programfiles#\trillian</workdir> </fileio-shortcut> </execute> </item> working code i found from here: <item> <fileio-shortcut display="Adding Desktop Shortcut" desc="Adds shortcut to Nero Express" configs="Testing"> <link>#ALLUSERSPROFILE#\Desktop\Nero Express.lnk</link> <target>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\nero.exe</target> <arguments> /w</arguments> <description>The easiest and quickest way to burn all your audio, data, and video discs, and much more.</description> <workdir>#ProgramFiles#\Ahead\Nero\</workdir> </fileio-shortcut> </item>

im content with N++ but how can i get the auto complete to work??

thanks benners, and im still havin probs withe logitech group... code: <item display="Logitech Programs"> <execute display="iTouch"> <program>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\logitech\keyboard\setup.exe</program> <arguments>/s</arguments> <hide>true</hide> </execute> <execute display="MouseWare"> <program>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\logitech\mouse\setup.exe</program> <arguments>/s</arguments> <hide>true</hide> </execute> <execute display="QuickCam"> <program>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\logitech\quickcam\appinst\setup.exe</program> <arguments>/S /V /qn /noreboot</arguments> <hide>true</hide> </execute> </item> error messages: Executing tag: 'XPlode4(0).items(0).item(2).item(0)' Error during execution: Command 'item' not found. Executing tag: 'XPlode4(0).items(0).item(2).item(1)' Error during execution: Command 'item' not found.

any way that you know of to make them hidden? if not, oh well, its good enough....

thats awesome! i never knew about that, kinda hard to get though, i had to increase my res to 800x600 so i could do it

after i fixed that 95% of the stuff worked now heres the errors i do have: Nero isnt hidden regardless of <hide>true</hide> code: <execute display="Nero Burning ROM v.6.6.0.12"> <program>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\nero-6.6.0.12\setupx.exe</program> <arguments>/SILENT</arguments> <hide>true</hide> </execute> X-setup Pro does the same thing code: <execute display="XSetup Tweaking Utility"> <program>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\xsetuppro.exe</program> <arguments>/SILENT</arguments> <hide>true</hide> </execute> if i cant use start then how do i execute a VB script? do i just put the location into the <program> tag or do i have to put the MS VB interpreter location in the <program> tag and the location in the<arguments> tag?

time to uninstall dreamweaver! havent actually written code in N++ yet but i do like the expandable/shrinkable tree options cuz the only thing i really need to see is <items> all the program tags/trees here</items>

thanks wraith! now do you have a solution for the hundred other problems im having?? (the file not found ones...)

1. i didnt know that Xplode automatically waits for one program to end before it starts the next, is this implemented in 4.1 also? (yes, im using 4.1 cuz idk if i really wanna pay for Xplode yet, i want to get this to atleast work for me, before i upgrade) 2.after reading someones post i decided to implement the <hide> true</hide> into my code 3.thanks for noticing the fileio problem i wouldnt of caught that myself... 4. i have batch files running cuz a. it would be either to complicated to run in Xplode or b. what i want either doesnt work in 4.1 (on a side note i already have a fully working start.bat customized the way i want it so all i have to do is copy certain/lines/strings from it inot Xplode) 5. This is the contents of Kill.bat: cmdow @ /HID kill /z hh.exe kill /z Ad-Aware.exe copy %systemdrive%\install\ad-aware\settings.awc "%appdata%\lavasoft\ad-aware\settings.awc" exit 5. this is giving me problems but idk why... <execute display="Logitech Programs"> <execute display="iTouch"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\logitech\keyboard\setup.exe /s</arguments> <hide>true</hide> </execute> <execute display="MouseWare"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\logitech\mouse\setup.exe /s</arguments> <hide>true</hide> </execute> <execute display="QuickCam"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\logitech\quickcam\appinst\setup.exe /S /V /qn /noreboot</arguments> <hide>true</hide> </execute> </execute> it says im missing program tags....

ill try it out...

that didnt seem to be the (main) problem it still doesnt work here is my Xplode.XML starting with <Items> and ending with </Items> (i left out the parts i didnt edit) <items> <!-- can use environment variables in the display --> <item display="Adding users to #COMPUTERNAME#"> <!-- adding a user. display attribute not used - here for readability/clarity --> <adduser display="Adding Bran"> <!-- the username --> <username>Bran</username> <!-- password to go with --> <password>123</password> <!-- multiple groups may be specified in this way --> <group>Administrators</group> </adduser> </item> <item display="Removing Users from #COMPUTERNAME#"> <!-- delete a user from this machine --> <deluser display="Removing the Help Assistant Account"> <username>HelpAssistant</username> </deluser> <deluser display="Removing the ASPNET Account"> <username>ASPNET</username> </deluser> <deluser display="Removing the Support Account"> <username>SUPPORT_388945a0</username> </deluser> </item> <item display="Installing Programs"> <execute display="Ad-Aware SE Pro v1.05"> <program>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\ad-aware\aawsepro</program> <arguments>/s</arguments> </execute> <execute> <program>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\ad-aware\kill.bat</program> </execute> <execute display="Adobe Reader v7.0"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\reader7</arguments> </execute> <execute display="Diskeeper v8"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\diskeeper8\diskeeper.bat</arguments> </execute> <execute display="DirectX v9.0C"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\directx9c\dxsetup /silent</arguments> </execute> <execute display="Intel Chipset Drivers"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\chipset\infinst\setup /s</arguments> </execute> <execute display="Intel ProSet"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\apps\proset\proset.msi /qn</arguments> </execute> <execute display="Java2 Runtime Environment v5"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\java503.exe</arguments> </execute> <execute display="Logitech Programs"> <execute display="iTouch"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\logitech\keyboard\setup.exe /s</arguments> </execute> <execute display="MouseWare"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\logitech\mouse\setup.exe /s</arguments> </execute> <execute display="QuickCam"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\logitech\quickcam\appinst\setup.exe /S /V /qn /noreboot</arguments> </execute> </execute> <execute display="Mozilla Firefox v1.0.4"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\firefox.exe</arguments> </execute> <execute display="Mozilla Thunderbird"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\thunderbird\setup</arguments> </execute> <!--execute display="Microsoft Office 2003"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\office2003\setup.exe TRANSFORMS=silent.MST /qb-</arguments> </execute--> <execute display=".Net Framework v1.1 SP1"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\dotnetsp1.exe</arguments> </execute> <execute display="Nero Burning ROM v.6.6.0.12"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\nero-6.6.0.12\setupx.exe /SILENT /SN=1A23-0609-4030-2288-8422-6502 /WRITE_SN</arguments> </execute> <execute display="Securing Windows XP Via SafeXP"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\safexp\safexp.exe safexp.dat</arguments> </execute> <execute display="Slickrun"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\slickrun\install.bat</arguments> </execute> <execute display="Trillian v3.1 Pro"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\trillianv3.1.exe /S</arguments> </execute> <execute display="WindDVD v6"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\windvd6\setup.exe /S</arguments> </execute> <execute display="Winamp v5.09"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\Winamp5.09\winamp.msi INI="#SYSTEMDRIVE#\install\apps\winamp5.09\settings.ini" /quiet</arguments> </execute> <execute display="XSetup Tweaking Utility"> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\xsetuppro.exe /SILENT</arguments> </execute> </item> <item display="Registry Tweaks"> <execute display="Tweaking XP To My Liking" token="Bran"> <program>regedit</program> <arguments>/s "#SYSTEMDRIVE#\install\tweaks.reg"</arguments> </execute> <execute> <program>start</program> <arguments>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\restoreshowdesktop.vbs</arguments> </execute> </item> <item display="Removing Wallpapers"> <fileiodelete> <from>#SYSTEMROOT#</from> <mask>*.bmp</mask> </fileiodelete> <fileiodelete> <from>#SYSTEMROOT#\web\wallpapers</from> <mask>*.jpg</mask> </fileiodelete> </item> <item display="Cleaning Up...."> <execute> <program>start</program> <arguments>/wait #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\cleanup.bat</arguments> </execute> </item> </items> (theres something wrong with the Logitech sub-catagory, i thought nesting was allowed?) and attached is the log that is generated when i run this code log.txt

sweet thanks. thats why i hate coding stuff stupid little errors liek that p*** me off JAVA was the worst....

i went to go post something completely different, but i never actually tested it out, i went on the filesize change that it wouldnt work... stupid me... thanks...

sounds pretty cool, wonder how it'll be....

AdBlock and All-In-One Gestures don't install.... was this fixed in the new version??

it saves it as UTF-8 by default and idk how to change it, if thats possible...

Xplode will install the first program within the <Item> tag but wont install the rest and i cant figure out why, all of the programs listed are in the same directory as the one before it but yet Xplode says it cant find it. Section of my code: <item display="Installing Programs"> <execute display="Ad-Aware SE Pro v1.05"> <program>#SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\ad-aware\aawsepro</program> <arguments>/s</arguments> </execute> <execute> <program> #SYSTEMDRIVE#\Install\Apps\ad-aware\kill.bat</program> </execute> </item> Error Messages From Logfile: Executing tag: 'XPlode4(0).items(0).item(2).execute(0)' Install log: Running: 'E:\Install\Apps\ad-aware\aawsepro /s' Executing tag: 'XPlode4(0).items(0).item(2).execute(1)' Install log: Running: ' E:\Install\Apps\ad-aware\kill.bat ' Error during execution: File not found.. all of my applications are located in Install\Apps and some are in subfolders (as you can see above) but yet Xplode cant find it! Also, can i use Start /Wait in the <program> tag?

doesnt work that way with MX 2004 i guess cuz it ALWAYS saves it in another format, i can always tell cuz the filesize is always half of what it is when i save it with notepad. (ex. dreamweaver=8kb notepad=16kb)