usasma

Guess you are the only one! Seriously, I had issues with the nVidia drivers back in Beta 1 and had to revert to the Microsoft drivers. I tried to communicate with nVidia - but I guess that they operate in a vacumn also. Vista has had issues with graphics from the beginning - and it was especially evident when I installed it on my Toshiba M45 laptop. But, since the graphics was a major part of the redesign that resulted in Vista - I'd be surprised if there weren't andy issues.

I think the best comment that I've seen was earlier in this thread - where someone mentioned words to the effect "if only Apple had acted sooner, we'd all be using Mac's now". Truer words were never spoken - every business runs on sales, and it's the marketing that encourages the sales. But once you've achieved market dominance it's tough to be unseated.

I recall reading about the differences between the NTFS in XP and the NTFS in Vista - but with the demise of WinFS I sorta lost interest in it. I suspect that this is what's causing your problem. Was this a clean install of XP, then a clean install of Vista to make the dual boot? If not, what did you upgrade to get there? FYI - My Corsair flash drive (when used in Vista) is always coming up "corrupt" and Vista demands that it be allowed to fix it. Funny tho' - I never get these problems in XP and the drive works without issues there.

I complain because I'm frustrated. It doesn't mean that I hate Microsoft, nor does it mean that I hate UAC. It's that it doesn't suit my needs, and I'm too impatient to wait for a "fix" to come out. UAC is, IMO, too inflexible for those of us who tinker with their systems. And, especially with apps designed for XP, it doesn't let us choose to "Allow" the app forever (like a software firewall will). Actually, a fix probably isn't needed as the problem will go away once my chosen apps become Vista compatible - but until then I reserve the right to b*tch about it! From my Army days: "A happy soldier is a b*tching soldier."

I have been using Vista on and off for a year now - and it did crash frequently. But I dutifully submitted my crash reports and they have fixed each issue that I reported. I've been running the RTM build for several weeks now and don't have any problems with it's stability. What I do have a problem with is the lack of available apps for Vista. XP apps just don't work all that well in Vista - so I'm eagerly awaiting the flood of apps that should come once Vista is released to the general public. If you put poor quality gas in your car and it runs lousy - do you blame the car manufacturer - or the gas? The same goes for Microsoft. They spent gazillion's of dollars to ensure backwards compatibility - but they had to draw the line somewhere. And that was the principle of "least privilege". So, that's where they draw the line. And it's consistent with what they've been saying for years ("Don't use the Administrator account", "Run your system as a limited user", etc). But users don't listen to this advice (myself included) and routinely run as administrators. So software writers realized this and also find that it's easier to write code for administrators than it is for limited users. In general, those of us posting here (and on other forums) are only a small part of the customer base that Microsoft has. The majority of folks buy a computer, turn it on, and call someone when they have a problem. They don't need or even want to know why - they just want it fixed. Microsoft, being a business, must consider this when developing their products - and must adjust their product development to help assure that people are protected from themselves (this is what I like to call the "McDonald's" theory - where the big corporations are held responsible for the user's ineptitude. In the case of McDonalds, it was because someone sued them for having coffee that burned them when they spilled it in their own lap) 'nuff said.

So, in other words, you use Microsoft OS's because it gives you what you want. And that's why you don't use other OS's - because they don't give you what you want. And that folks is the key to Microsoft's success - they give the customer what they want.

I can't recall if this was mentioned previously - but Ctrl-Shift-Esc will bring up the Task Manager directly.

Any issues? I use 7.22 for my XP and love it!

In my case it's IOGear.

Comodo's latest beta build works in Vista - with a couple of bugs: 1) It disables my AVG email scanner (fix is posted on both AVG and Comodo site) 2) Network monitoring is labelled as being off, but it accepts input from the dialog boxes.

Then you lose the benefits that it gives you. Actually, I'd like an option to selectively elevate programs - rather than having to click to elevate. I'm a big supporter of UAC - but these darned prompts are driving me crazy! It's an XP thing tho' - once Vista compatible apps start coming out it'll solve itself.

I just got a new 4 port KVM that behaves in the same way - yet my 2 port KVM works just fine. I've read some articles about this problem and it appears to be linked to Vista's handling of graphics (but no specifics).

The 6 things I don't like about Vista: UAC UAC UAC UAC UAC UAC

You could do it. Bwah-haaa-haaah! Yeah, right! Just my idea for a couple of days of fun.

Vista has shifted to .xml files for a lot of the stuff that they do. A search for files with the word "hide" in them yields a big list - anyone care to parse them all?

The Vista team has reserved scores over 5.9 for future use - so there is a mechanism to raise it. But that'll have to wait on future SP's to achieve.

Here's the list of services that I had on my Vista RTM install when it first started - along with my choices about what should and should not me modified. A lot of this is based on previous experiences and may not apply in your situation. Finally, some of it is just a SWAG (scientific wild-a**ed guess) - so take it with a grain of salt. My thoughts are that, when it doubt, you should set a service to Manual rather than Disabling it - this way you can go back and see if it's being called on as time progresses. If it isn't needed in a week or two, then chances are that you won't need it - so it should be safe to Disable then. Regardless, take the time to export a list of the services as they sit on your system and save them to a text file - it's a good resource for resetting them if needs be. PM me for the Excel version of this if you'd like (it includes the comments from earlier in this thread). Here's what I've gotten: Application Experience - Disable if you don't use Aero or themes Application Information - Manual - needed to install legacy software as an admin Application Layer Gateway Service - Manual Application Management - Manual Background Intelligent Transfer Service - Auto Base Filtering Engine - ? Manual Block Level Backup Engine Service - Manual Certificate Propagation - Manual CNG Key Isolation - Manual COM+ Event System - Auto COM+ System Application - Manual Computer Browser - Auto Cryptographic Services - Auto DCOM Server Process Launcher - Auto Desktop Window Manager Session Manager - Disable if you don't use Aero or themes DFS Replication - Manual DHCP Client - Auto Diagnostic Policy Service - ? Manual Diagnostic Service Host - Manual Diagnostic System Host - ? Manual Distributed Link Tracking Client - Auto Distributed Transaction Coordinator - Manual DNS Client - Auto Extensible Authentication Protocol - Manual Fax - Disable if you don't fax Function Discovery Provider Host - Manual Function Discovery Resource Publication - Auto Group Policy Client - Disable if you don't use Group Policy Health Key and Certificate Management - Manual Human Interface Device Access - Manual IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules - ? Manual Interactive Services Detection - ? Manual Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) - Disabled by default on my system IP Helper - ? Manual IPsec Policy Agent - ? Manual KtmRm for Distributed Transaction Coordinator - ? Disable Link-Layer Topology Discovery Mapper - ? Manual Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v2.0.50727_X86 - Manual Microsoft iSCSI Initiator Service - Manual Microsoft Software Shadow Copy Provider - Disable if you don't use Volume Shadow Copy - otherwise Manual Multimedia Class Scheduler - Disable, Manual if you need priority assigned to multimedia tasks Net.Tcp Port Sharing Service - Disabled by default on my system Netlogon - Manual Network Access Protection Agent - Manual Network Connections - Manual Network List Service - ? Manual Network Location Awareness - ? Manual Network Store Interface Service - Auto Offline Files - ? Manual Parental Controls - Disable unless you need the Parental Controls Peer Name Resolution Protocol - Manual Peer Networking Grouping - Manual Peer Networking Identity Manager - Manual Performance Logs & Alerts - Manual Plug and Play - Auto PnP-X IP Bus Enumerator - Manual PNRP Machine Name Publication Service - Manual Portable Device Enumerator Service - ? Manual Print Spooler - Disable if you don't have a printer Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support - Manual Program Compatibility Assistant Service - ? Manual Protected Storage - Disable if you're not worried about the security of your sensitive information Quality Windows Audio Video Experience - Manual ReadyBoost - Disable unless using ReadyBoost (gotta try this one!) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager - ? Manual Remote Access Connection Manager - Disable if you don't use dial-up connections and/or VPN-networks. Remote Procedure Call (RPC) - Auto Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Locator - Manual Remote Registry - Manual Routing and Remote Access - Disabled by default on my system Secondary Logon - Disable Security Accounts Manager - Auto Security Center - ? Manual Server - ? Manual Shell Hardware Detection - Disable to remove autoplay functionality on removable media. SL UI Notification Service - Disable. You can manually run this if it's needed for activation or other software licensing issues. Smart Card - Manual Smart Card Removal Policy - Manual SNMP Trap - Manual Software Licensing - Disable if you don't use licensed content - but be careful as it will cause some programs to run with decreased functionality. Otherwise, set it to manual SSDP Discovery - Manual Superfetch - Sorta like prefetch on steroids - I'd leave it on Auto System Event Notification Service - Leave it if you want to know when an error occurs - otherwise, disable it. Tablet PC Input Service - Disable if you don't have a Tablet PC Task Scheduler - ? Manual TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper - ? Manual if you don't know Telephony - Disable if you don't use dial-up connections. Terminal Services - Disable, reset it if you need remote functionality Terminal Services Configuration - Manual Terminal Services UserMode Port Redirector - Manual Themes - Disable Thread Ordering Server - Manual TPM Base Services - Manual UPnP Device Host - Disable if you don't need to host UPnP devices. User Profile Service - Auto Virtual Disk - Manual Volume Shadow Copy - Manual WebClient - Disable Windows Audio - ? Manual Windows Audio Endpoint Builder - ? Manual Windows Backup - Manual Windows CardSpace - Manual Windows Color System - Manual Windows Connect Now - Config Registrar - Manual Windows Defender - Auto - use it, it's good and it's free! Windows Driver Foundation - User-mode Driver Framework - Manual Windows Error Reporting Service - Leave it if you want to know when an error occurs - otherwise, disable it. Windows Event Collector - Manual Windows Event Log - Leave it if you want to know when an error occurs - otherwise, disable it. Windows Firewall - Disable only if using another software firewall - otherwise, leave it alone. Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) - Manual Windows Installer - Manual Windows Management Instrumentation - Auto Windows Media Center Extender Service - Disabled by default on my system Windows Media Center Receiver Service - Manual Windows Media Center Scheduler Service - Manual Windows Media Center Service Launcher - ? Manual Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service - ? Manual Windows Modules Installer - Manual Windows Presentation Foundation Font Cache 3.0.0.0 - ? Manual Windows Remote Management (WS-Management) - ? Disable Windows Search - Disable Windows Time - Disable Windows Update - Auto - you need the updates! WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service - Disable or Manual Wired AutoConfig - ? Disable if you don't have wireless - otherwise Manual WLAN AutoConfig - ? Disable if you don't have wireless - otherwise Manual WMI Performance Adapter - Manual Workstation- Auto

64 services running on a stock install of Vista RTM (32 bit version) by counting those that are listed as "Started" in services.msc After installing some Logitech mouse software and Firefox, a glance at the Task Manager shows 37 processes running (13 svchost.exe's) - but clicking on the Services tab shows many more than that (approximately 63 with a PID (presumed to be started) and a whole boat load more without PID's). Presumably the excess are running under the svchost.exe instances.

5.3 overall 5.3 - CPU (Core 2 Duo E6600) and the RAM (4 gB of Corsair) 5.5 - gaming graphics (eVGA GEForce 7600 GT) 5.9 - graphics (same card as above) 5.9 - hard drive (W-D 10,000 rpm SATA)

I'd suggest an email to Logitech - if only to bring their attention to this. As Vista comes closer to launch you'll see more and more drivers being released. My Logitech web cam and trackball all work well in Vista. I install them as an Administrator in XP compatibility mode.

I ran build 5456 on a Mobile Intel 915GM Express chipset without many difficulties. Slow as molasses in January - but it did work. So, don't post the number in the Performance post - everyone will laugh at them!

Got a 3 on my desktop (to think, a P4 3.0 gHz is only a 3!). Didn't check on my Toshiba M45 laptop - but think that it was probably in the negative numbers (that was build 5456). The new system will improve my numbers tho' - a Core 2 Duo 6600, 4 gB RAM, 10,000 rpm W-D hard drive and an nVidia 7800 GT vid card.

Recently my "primary" home on the web has undergone changes that have changed it from the place that I joined initially. So, I'm looking for another place to hang my hat. I typically post a lot on a few forums (currently 4 - including the one that I'm leaving), and also participate in the XP and Vista newsgroups. - John (usasma stands for US Army Sergeants Major Academy. It was my last job while in the military (I retired 3 years ago).