yeah but i meant that if you install many shareware (like i do) and then uninstall them, they leave remainder registry entries and some dll's which can conflict with your system and cause crashes like that.. Even if you clean the stuff out with reg cleaners, there will still be some clutter left, and most probably cause crashes like this.. I know its boring and sufficating to format, but when u gotta do it, u gotta do it BLACKWAR