Corrections of the update lists

[Tomalak]

Hello Tomcat76 & the_guy,

two issues with your update lists:

1. KB890046 (MS05-032) is probably missing: it just contains "agentdpv.dll" (version 2.0.0.3423), which supposedly has been replaced by version 2.0.0.3424 coming with KB920213 (MS06-068). However, both KB articles were updated on 05/08/2007 and now explicitly state that MS06-068 does not replace MS05-032, both patches should be installed.

I'm not sure why (didn't read the full details in the bulletins), according to http://patch-info.de/artikel/2006/11/14/168 the update MS06-068 does not set a certain killbit, but MS05-032 does. I guess hfslip could deal with this directly, so indeed only the newer update might be necessary... Comments?

2. KB885626 (certain Intel processors in combination with old BIOS) has been replaced by KB936357 (KB article not yet available). Both contain "update.sys" (new version 5.1.2600.3124, old version 5.1.2600.2508).

Kind regards,

Tomalak

[Tomcat76]

1) Are you referring to the "ActiveX Compatibility" setting for F5BE8BD2-7DE6-11D0-91FE-00C04FD701A5? That's dealt with through the installation INFs from IE7 and the cumulative updates for IE5 and IE6.

2) Does it appear on Windows/Microsoft Update?

[Tomalak]

1) Are you referring to the "ActiveX Compatibility" setting for F5BE8BD2-7DE6-11D0-91FE-00C04FD701A5? That's dealt with through the installation INFs from IE7 and the cumulative updates for IE5 and IE6.

Err, I can't find a download for that ID, so I don't understand which "ActiveX Compatibility" setting you mentioned. I just saw the update on both KB articles and I couldn't find 890046 in your list, so I thought it might probably been missing. If installation/slipstreaming of IE7 (no updates for IE5 or IE6, I'm using Win XP SP2 Pro) is enough and hfslip deals with this, there's no problem at all.

2) Does it appear on Windows/Microsoft Update?

I don't know, didn't try an installation on a real PC for some time now, only in VMs. Not sure if it would show up there at all (the old update didn't do as far as I remember). Maybe someone else can contribute here although it might take a few days, it's a brand new update.

Again, I only had a look on your list and recognized that the files in the new update completely replace the old update (which is in your interactive list).

Regards,

Tomalak

[Tomcat76]

I mean, KB890046 adds the following into the registry which KB920213 doesn't:

HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{F5BE8BD2-7DE6-11D0-91FE-00C04FD701A5}","Compatibility Flags",0x00010001,0x400

However, that is added to the registry if you include either IE7 or the cumulative update for IE5 or IE6. So I don't feel the need to hardcode it into HFSLIP as well...

[GrofLuigi]

Regarding KB936357 - why are people afraid to post direct links (on the Internet, I'm not talking about here) to the exe? Is microsoft already ruling the world? Is their wish above the law? I know for myself I'll never use Windows Genuine Spyware and have blocked all microsoft servers that I know of with firewall and hosts file. I won't download the file, even though i think it could help me with a problem I have. I will not succumb to strip-searching for software that should have worked in the first place.

Sorry if this is offtopic.

GL

[Tomcat76]

Latest test release: if no IE updates are present, HFSLIP force-adds the compatibility flag that was added by KB890046.

[the_guy]

For my lists, I'm not updating them until Monday afternoon at the earliest. Gotta love exams!

KB890046 is replaced, but by 2 different fixes. The latest IE update and KB932168 (newer than KB920213, contains 1 file instead of 3). Microsoft doesn't call that replaced for some reason.

For KB936357, it won't be on my list until the KB article is published.

the_guy

[Tomalak]

KB890046 is replaced, but by 2 different fixes. The latest IE update and KB932168 (newer than KB920213, contains 1 file instead of 3). Microsoft doesn't call that replaced for some reason.

Okay, I just saw the change on their website - someone at MS probably does not know what he does. The update is indeed not necessary in contrary to their KB article.

For KB936357, it won't be on my list until the KB article is published.

Well, now it is - it was part of the update mania on 2007/06/26.

Regards,

Tomalak

[erpdude8]

For KB936357, it won't be on my list until the KB article is published.

the_guy

KB936357 update can cause some XP systems to crash with a BSOD on startup. See this page on how to recover from the BSOD after installing KB936357:

http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=785521

Also look here and determine whether your system with certain cpus really needs the KB936357 patch or not:

http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=159050#159050Microsoft

KB936357 is definitely flawed. I'd stay away from this until MS fixes the problem with it.

Edited August 21, 2007 by erpdude8

[Tomcat76]

I may revert to KB885626-v2 on my list. I'll think about it.

BTW... Uninstalling KB936357 is irrelevant in the context of HFSLIP as I386\UPDATE.SY_ is replaced directly.