soporific Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 (edited) Driverpacks for Windows 98What's this project?This project was inspired by Bâshrat the Sneaky who started the Driverpacks project which, if you didn't already know, is absolutely fantastic. When you include them in your unattended Boot & OS re-installation DVD they will install the drivers for your standard hardware components that you normally have to do yourself after the OS has installed. This means a computer is completely ready to go after using a DVD with these driverpacks on them to install your OS. Well, since i'm about to release probably the last version of the Unattended Boot CD (UBCD) for Windows 98/98se i thought i'd make it extra special and in order for it to all work (especially for newer computers) the new UBCD needs to be able to function properly after the OS has finished installing, ie chipset drivers that tell the OS what all the new fangled hardware does is essential to be able to continue installing all of the other goodies contained in the new UBCD. Without a comparable project to Bâshrat's driverpacks, the UBCD won't work for everyone and the majority of these people will be the ones with better hardware (which they could still be using in 5 years). So, this only became obvious a few days ago when i was testing out on a K7 AMD AthlonXP 2600+ and it turned out i needed to install the chipset drivers for everything to work.So, if you intend on making your own UBCD, then you'll want to send me your chipset drivers, especially if they aren't natively supported in Windows 98.Windows 98 only: I was originally going to make this for Win95 and WinME as well but then i looked at the amount of extra work it would involve and decided it was impossible. Sorry to get your hopes up. I will, however, include drivers on an individual basis, ie, you send me the drivers (or provide a link) and i'll add them to a special pack you'll be able to use.Latest NewsFeb 18, 2008:I'm releasing a new version of the UBCD and i want to include updated driver packs. Please post your suggestions for inclusion.Sept 28, 2007: The video driverpacks have been tested with 3 cards (see below) so far and all work fine with an unattended installation of all drivers. Yippee.cards tested:SiS530Radeon 9800 seriesGeForce3 Ti 200Sept 26:After some help from fellow MSFN members (especially SubMix8c) i have cracked the driver packs for Win98/ME method! It wasn't hard in the end, just a matter of adding a line to msbatch.inf and writing some code to extract the packs, and then delete them after.The main goal is to have the USERs video card properly installed before desktop loads. No other driver (IMHO) is as important due to the fact these can always be installed after setup finishes, whereas the some post-installation tasks like the post-installation wizard (WPI) needs more than 16 colors at 800 x 600 resolution.Please post the details of the cards you'd like supported in the driver packs, and provide links where you can.Index for the Driver Packs for Windows 98sev1.20__________________________________DP_w98_1.01.exe is 12.4 MB and extracts to 45.9 MBDP_w98_2.01.exe is 8.88 MB and extracts to 40.5 MBDP_w98_3.01.exe is 14.5 MB and extracts to 49.5 MBDP_w98_4.02.exe is 1.08 MB and extracts to 3.62 MBDP_w98_5.01.exe is 2.34 MB and extracts to 5.32 MBDP_w98_6.01.exe is 523 KB and extracts to 1.89 MBDP_w98_7.01.exe is 105 KB and extracts to 36.4 KBtotal: 39.8 MB extracting to 147 MB uncompressed__________________________________** Driver Packs 1 ** ATI Radeon 9800 seriesATI Radeon 9700 seriesATI Radeon 9600 seriesATI Radeon 9500 seriesATI Radeon 9200 seriesATI Radeon 9100 seriesATI Radeon 9000 seriesATI Radeon 8500 seriesATI Radeon 7500 seriesATI Radeon 7200 seriesATI Radeon 7000 seriesATI Radeon Xpress 200 series** and all "All-In-Wonder" variants of the every ATI Radeon series family above.SiS 315SiS 530SiS 6326SiS 635SiS 645SiS 733SiS 735Trident Blade XP-T64S3 ProSavageDDRASUS VANTA2000ASUS V3800 SeriesASUS V6600 SeriesASUS V6800 SeriesASUS V7100 SeriesASUS V7700 SeriesASUS V8200 SeriesASUS V8170 SeriesASUS V8420 SeriesASUS V8440 SeriesASUS V8460 SeriesASUS V9180 Series ASUS V9280 Series ASUS CUA Series__________________________________** Driver Packs 2 ** SiS 650VIA-S3 UniChromeVIA VT8361VIA VT8601VIA VT850ATi Rage 128ATi Rage 128 ProVoodoo3Voodoo4Voodoo5Voodoo Banshee__________________________________** Driver Packs 3 **NVIDIA GeForce2 Integrated GPUNVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 ProNVIDIA GeForce2 TiNVIDIA GeForce2 UltraNVIDIA GeForce3NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SENVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 460NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPUNVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8XNVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 SENVIDIA GeForce FX 5100NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5200LENVIDIA GeForce FX 5500NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5600XTNVIDIA GeForce FX 5700NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5700LENVIDIA GeForce FX 5700VENVIDIA GeForce FX 5800NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5900NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 UltraNVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XTNVIDIA GeForce FX 5900ZTNVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 UltraNVIDIA GeForce PCX 5300NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5750NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5900NVIDIA GeForce 6100NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 400NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 420NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 430NVIDIA GeForce 6150NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LENVIDIA GeForce 6200NVIDIA GeForce 6200 A-LENVIDIA GeForce 6200 LENVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache(tm)NVIDIA GeForce 6200SE TurboCache(tm)NVIDIA GeForce 6500NVIDIA GeForce 6600NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GTNVIDIA GeForce 6600 LENVIDIA GeForce 6600 VENVIDIA GeForce 6610 XLNVIDIA GeForce 6700 XLNVIDIA GeForce 6800NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GSNVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS/XTNVIDIA GeForce 6800 GTNVIDIA GeForce 6800 LENVIDIA GeForce 6800 Series GPUNVIDIA GeForce 6800 UltraNVIDIA GeForce 6800 XENVIDIA GeForce 6800 XTNVIDIA GeForce 7025NVIDIA GeForce 7050 PVNVIDIA GeForce 7100 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7300 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7300 GTNVIDIA GeForce 7300 LENVIDIA GeForce 7300 SENVIDIA GeForce 7500 LENVIDIA GeForce 7600 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7600 GTNVIDIA GeForce 7600 LENVIDIA GeForce 7650 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7800 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTNVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTXNVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX v2NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GSNVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT/GTONVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTXNVIDIA GeForce 7950 GTNVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT AGPNVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 v2NVIDIA GeForce 8300 GSNVIDIA GeForce 8400 GSNVIDIA GeForce 8500 GTNVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTNVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTSNVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTSNVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTXNVIDIA GeForce 8800 UltraNVIDIA Quadro2 MXR/EXNVIDIA Quadro2 ProNVIDIA Quadro4 380 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 580 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 700 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 750 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 780 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 900 XGLNVIDIA Quadro4 980 XGLNVIDIA Quadro DCCNVIDIA Quadro FX 1000NVIDIA Quadro FX 1100NVIDIA Quadro FX 1300NVIDIA Quadro FX 1400NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500NVIDIA Quadro FX 2000NVIDIA Quadro FX 3000NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400/4400NVIDIA Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDINVIDIA Quadro FX 350NVIDIA Quadro FX 3500NVIDIA Quadro FX 4000NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 X2NVIDIA Quadro FX 500/FX 600NVIDIA Quadro FX 540NVIDIA Quadro FX 550NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600NVIDIA Quadro FX 5500NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600NVIDIA Quadro FX 560NVIDIA Quadro FX 700NVIDIA Quadro NVSNVIDIA Quadro NVS 210SNVIDIA Quadro NVS 285NVIDIA Quadro NVS 440NVIDIA Quadro NVS 50 PCINVIDIA Quadro NVS 55/280 PCINVIDIA Quadro NVS with AGP8XNVIDIA Quadro PCI-E SeriesSiS 661FX__________________________________** Driver Packs 4 ** (Chipset drivers)ALi1621nForce2nForce3nForce4VIA USB 2.0 (usb)VIA HyperionPro 5.12aVIA IDE VT82C580__________________________________** Driver Packs 5 ** (audio drivers)VIA AC97ESS 1869Sound Blaster LiveSoundMAX AD1885__________________________________** Driver Packs 6 ** (network drivers)AcerLAN ALN 201AcerLAN ALN 325Realtek 10/100/1000 NIC FamilyADMtek AN983B Realtek RTL8139LanKom LB-1200UVIA VT8233__________________________________** Driver Packs 7 ** (Virtual Machine drivers)VMWare mouse driverVMWare Virtual SVGA video driverDownload links:Pack 1Pack 2Pack 3Pack 4Pack 5Pack 6Pack 7 Edited February 17, 2008 by soporific 1
creopard Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 So you're going to plan something like "Bashrath the Sneaky's Driverpack"(http://driverpacks.net/DriverPacks/) but for Win9x?
soporific Posted May 23, 2007 Author Posted May 23, 2007 So you're going to plan something like "Bashrath the Sneaky's Driverpack"(http://driverpacks.net/DriverPacks/) but for Win9x?Basically.
oscardog Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 Using ren, might save you creating, deleting directories until everything is finished. Modifying the registry to point to the necessary source driver files or using subst, adding/altering the path statement might help. I have use most of this to make tiny win9x but never on a full install.Hopefully food for thought.Keep up the good workAll the best
soporific Posted May 28, 2007 Author Posted May 28, 2007 well, i was right !!! ... it seems ... i shouldn't get too excited as i've only tested on one piece of hardware, but the method seems sound. The INF file for my hardware wasn't very silent and so i had to click thru stuff, but the point was the computer did the following:1) it found an unknown piece of hardware2) it found an INF file for it.3) and i forced the process above and am able to automate it.it seems the rest of the task is easy ... unfortunately most if not all INFs will have to be modified to be nice and silent but maybe it won't be so bad ... my plan is that the Driver Pack will simply have the drivers i have a need for and the INFs for those will be done by me. If you want to include your drivers, you are going to have a much better chance of getting them *quickly* inserted by doing the modding of the INFs yourself. I only recently learnt myself its not that hard.SO now i'm working on a method to use the driver packs *whenever* -- ie we don't want to just use it when re-installing the OS ... what about if you come across a piece of hardware and you had *no* idea what it was, theoretically, if the driver packs were big enough, all you would have to do is run them and the hardware would be installed. There's no hope that this project will ever get to that stage but the concept would be interesting to nail down ... i can think of many uses for a universal automated driver installer.SO if i release something, you should be able to test it by creating your own test driver pack (simply an archive of the needed files) and checking it out ... that's the plan ... back soon ...
Brink Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 Just to let you know,There are people who are interested in this still. Have you made any progress or have you found any pre-built driver packs for windows 98?Thanks
soporific Posted July 17, 2007 Author Posted July 17, 2007 Have you made any progress or have you found any pre-built driver packs for windows 98?well, i got someway there but the rest would have taken a huge chunk of my time and as there were no offers to help ... so these packs are still a pipe dream it seems.But who knows what the future will bring?
MDGx Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 If any1 cares, marxo posted a link to the complete 98/98 SE DDK:98DDK:http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#DDK* Microsoft Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE Complete DDK 32-bit + Documentation [43.3 MB, right-click to save]:http://www.mdgx.com/spx/98DDK.RARWindows 98/98 SP1/98 SE DDK 32-bit [25.1 MB]:http://www.arte.unipi.it/Public/Win32/win98ddk.exeDDK Resources:http://support.microsoft.com/ph/7229/HTH
ShadeTreeLee Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Just an observation you might be able to take advantage of here, but at times I've left an old removed modem's inf file in the Windows\INF\Other folder and had Windows keep reinstalling it silently without prompting anything. I thought I was losing my mind! The fifth reboot and I still had a five time removed from the device mangler modem, convinced me to take another look around, I found the Other folder and nuked the offending inf file in there and then Windows started asking me for a different modem installation location which I happily pointed it to. But, modem files do go to the INF\Other folder normally or so I've thought for a long time now, mine also currently holds a sound card inf file.I don't understand a great deal of how Windows detects a new piece of hardware or gathers matching inf files for it and then installs the proper one. Each process is a complete mystery to me so I won't be much further help.
submix8c Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 (edited) There is a parameter in MSBATCH.INF (can't remember what it is offhand...) that allows for pointing to a secondary folder for INF's, etc. This would have to be placed on the HDD along with the setup files (etc.; ref. soporific's UBCD) for them to be "found". They cannot be ".exe" or ".msi" etc, ONLY INF's and the related files. Also reference ShadeTreeLee's comment about WINDOWS/INF/OTHER (it's relevant). This is how OEM's pull this stunt off.The main problems as I see them are- gathering the INF's and the associated files (for each INF) and placing these into the special folder. Windows Setup will then find them and install the necessary files as appropriate.- having a list of all (potential) candidates for Setup Install (lots of hardware out there that is not in W98SE WHCL). Make a list(?) and search away!HTH. Cheers...edit - FOUND IT! This is from WinME. Haven't tried it, but it may work for 98SE (MSBATCH.INF)...[OPKExpress]... (etc.)[OEMDrivers]; Add additional driver paths for OEM specific drivers; Ensure each entry is separated by a semi-colon; HKLM,"SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion","OtherDevicePath",,"C:\DRV\AUDIO;C:\DRV\VIDEO" Edited July 19, 2007 by submix8c
soporific Posted September 24, 2007 Author Posted September 24, 2007 (edited) I'm building a Win98se video drivers pack !!!It doesn't have to be strictly Win98se, but that is the system i intend using it on, i should be able to include instructions about how to add drivers to the publicly available pack.Please post your suggestions about what to include in it, please post direct links if you can. no worries if you can't.Thanks to all for the info, all the replies since my last one were excellent, i shall reveal which method i went with very soon ...The pack contains so far:1. SiS530 VGA display driver. Edited September 24, 2007 by soporific
glocK_94 Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Cool. I'd say you at least need one Nvidia and one Ati driver. I'd suggest Ati Radeon Catalyst v6.2 since that's the last one avaible for 9x and Nvidia Forceware 82.96 (official or unofficial version).Some people might want older (but more stable) drivers for nvidia cards too.You could add lots of old cards (matrox, intel, 3Dfx...) but watch out as it'll quickly grow huge.Oh, direct links ? Ok:Here's for Catalyst -> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/98me/radeonaiw-98me.htmland for unofficial Nvidia -> http://www.msfn.org/board/lofiversion/inde.../t97140-50.html
soporific Posted September 24, 2007 Author Posted September 24, 2007 (edited) Cool. I'd say you at least need one Nvidia and one Ati driver. I'd suggest Ati Radeon Catalyst v6.2 since that's the last one avaible for 9x and Nvidia Forceware 82.96 (official or unofficial version).Some people might want older (but more stable) drivers for nvidia cards too.You could add lots of old cards (matrox, intel, 3Dfx...) but watch out as it'll quickly grow huge.Oh, direct links ? Ok:Here's for Catalyst -> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/98me/radeonaiw-98me.htmland for unofficial Nvidia -> http://www.msfn.org/board/lofiversion/inde.../t97140-50.htmli definitely want one of each, thanks for the tips.I was going to write something else but its not yet relevant. Sorry for this post, there no new info! Edited September 24, 2007 by soporific
soporific Posted September 25, 2007 Author Posted September 25, 2007 OK i need some help with INF files ... how can i make sure that the drivers installation is unattended ... in my test system, i have a video card that is not supported by Win98 and setup finds the INF file OK, but then setup asks for all the files the INF file refers toi know the location that the files will be in, but how do i include this info in the INF file so it can all be unattended?Thanks in advance ...
patchworks Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 As i already suggested @ DriverPacks.net forums, why don't you consider to build a "simple" (open sourced) driver update manager ?
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