Aegis Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 There must be something wrong with my ears...but I don't notice anything different! Is it because my audio files are at 128K bits/second? I've tweaked the settings in the X-Fi Audio Console, but it either distorts it in ways I don't like or keeps it the same as my old integrated sound from three years ago. Maybe I shouldn't be trying it on my old computer?
bledd Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 128kb is really bad quality..use 320vbr instaed..use eac to encode your mp3s
ripken204 Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 bledd-i dont think that would help much, you cannot increase the quality or your mp3'saegis-try playing a dvd or a newer game. do u have headphones? i think u told me u did, if so then u can turn on surround sound in the current games and you will be amazed.
nmX.Memnoch Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 bledd-i dont think that would help much, you cannot increase the quality or your mp3'sYou can't increase the quality of an already existing MP3, but you can re-rip them to a higher bitrate. There is definitely a difference between 128 and even 192.Also, your speakers will play a large part in how things sound as well. A hi-fi sound card isn't going to make a set of cheap speakers sound any better.
Aegis Posted April 1, 2006 Author Posted April 1, 2006 http://www.protravelgear.com/store/Electro...ones___28?Args=I have PlaneQuiet NC-6 headphones. Not sure if they're "quality" but they costed me $50 bucks and offers excellent noise-cancelling technology.
nmX.Memnoch Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 I honestly think it's just the bitrate of your MP3s. Re-rip them to a higher quality (at least 192 CBR) and you'll notice a difference from that alone.
Aegis Posted April 1, 2006 Author Posted April 1, 2006 I followed your advice and played a song that had 1411kbps bitrate, but it still sounds the same .
bledd Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 bledd-i dont think that would help much, you cannot increase the quality or your mp3'si know that, you mis intepreted what i said mp3 doesn't go that highwhat file type is it?what are you playing them in?
Aegis Posted April 2, 2006 Author Posted April 2, 2006 I use WMP10, but I don't think it really matters how high the bitrate is or which media player...How is it suppose to sound with X-Fi? I mean as compared to regular integrated audio.
LLXX Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Some people just don't have audiophile ears, like me. I can't really tell the difference between integrated audio and ultraexpensive add-on sound cards.
Reino Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 - 1411Kbps are WAV/Uncompressed audio files.- 128Kbps 44100Hz MP3's aren't that bad actually. even 96Kbps Vorbis sound great.- re-encoding an existing MP3 files is useless, since MP3 is a lossy audio format, no matter at what bitrate you're encoding, the re-encoded MP3 file will always be of less quality! Encoding MP3's from CD's/WAV's/lossless audio formats is the rights way to do.- as for your X-Fi soundcard, it could be anything; wrong settings, wrong driver...
flupke Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 I don't hear any difference between an original CD and the ripped tracks at 112kb/s VBR with my build-in sound-card and Sennheiser headphones.
nmX.Memnoch Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 - 128Kbps 44100Hz MP3's aren't that bad actually. even 96Kbps Vorbis sound great.Ogg Vorbis is a completely different codec...you can't even compare them. IMO, Ogg Vorbis encoded files sound better than MP3s. The standard just hasn't caught on in the portable player market.- re-encoding an existing MP3 files is useless, since MP3 is a lossy audio format, no matter at what bitrate you're encoding, the re-encoded MP3 file will always be of less quality!While it is a lossy format using a higher bitrate results in less loss (otherwise the file wouldn't be any larger). I can definitely tell the difference between a 128Kbps MP3 and a 256Kbps MP3 with my Audigy2 ZS and Klipsh ProMedia 2.1's.I don't hear any difference between an original CD and the ripped tracks at 112kb/s VBR with my build-in sound-card and Sennheiser headphones.The same applies to what I said earlier about a good sound card with cheap speakers. Good speakers aren't going to make a cheap soundcard sound good either.
Reino Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 (edited) - re-encoding an existing MP3 files is useless, since MP3 is a lossy audio format, no matter at what bitrate you're encoding, the re-encoded MP3 file will always be of less quality!While it is a lossy format using a higher bitrate results in less loss (otherwise the file wouldn't be any larger). I can definitely tell the difference between a 128Kbps MP3 and a 256Kbps MP3 with my Audigy2 ZS and Klipsh ProMedia 2.1's.That's where you're wrong though. It doesn't matter if you can hear a difference or not, lossy will stay lossy and at such a point you can't create imaginary sound quality or something.Let's say a CD-track is at 100% sound quality. The first encoded MP3 file would then be at 50% for instance compared to the CD-track. If you're going to re-encode this MP3 file to another MP3 file at whatever bitrate, you will never have sound quality better than 50% in this case. Sad but true, that's what lossy audio formats are all about. Edited April 2, 2006 by CoRoNe
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