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oviradoi

Windows 3.11

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Hello.

I have succsfully made windows 3.11 boot from my cd, I still can't believe I did it, BUT...

On some systems, it works fine, but on some systems, when I run win.com, it gives me the error:

ERROR: PageOverCommit value in system.ini is too large
Decrease the value, or if not present, add a value that is less than 4

In my system.ini file I don't have a PageOverCommit value, so I have added a PageOverCommit value of 3, and it still didn't work

Does anyone know why this is so? And can anyone help? :(

To make windows 3.11 boot from cd I have done this:

I have made a floppy disk image (.IMA) using WinImage with DOS 7.1 on it, and put it on my cd

Next, I have made an UHA archive of my windows 3.1 folder and some other files(readntfs.exe, edit.com, Total Commander 16 bit version ...), and put that on my cd

When the floppy image boots, it creates a 21 or so MB Ramdrive, and it unpacks the archive in there, and when I run win.com, windows amazingly runs

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From http://www.computing.net/dos/wwwboard/forum/14226.html :

It's a known bug of Win3.x, which only happens if your memory if MORE THAN 256MB. Set "PageOverCommit=2"(or 1) in [386enh]of SYSTEM.INI will fix this problem.

Most of the results returned by Googling the error message are in Chinese... so use a translator if you can't read. Also, from translated http://www.ddvip.net/OS/dos/index2/16.htm :

(For example MS-DOS 6.x) compares with old edition DOS, the MS-DOS 7.10 one important renewal is comprehensively supports the big memory. In other words, if in the system physical memory is extremely big (for instance 512MB), they also 7.10 as well as Win3.x which will move above it distinguish by MS-DOS and may perform to use. But because Win3.x itself tacitly approves value is not good to above 256MB big memory support, therefore if in the system memory surpasses 256MB under the situation when the Win3.x start possibly can appear " PageOverCommit value in SYSTEM.INI is too large. Decrease the value, or if not present, add a setting that is less than 4. "

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Strange, DOS 7.x (aka Win9x) files instead of the MS-DOS 6.22 ones) i.e. NATIVE FAT32 access, should NOT be able to load the Win3.x GUI unless 3Xstart is loaded.....but maybe this applies to 3.1 and not to 3.11...

Some links about the matter:

http://www.oldfiles.org.uk/powerload/

3XSTART

http://oldfiles.org.uk/powerload/win3x.htm

http://www.devedia.com/dosghost/dos/ph_w31.htm

http://mw16.2ya.com/

http://www.geocities.com/politalk/

http://www.geocities.com/politalk/rmdrv/win31.htm

jaclaz

Edited by jaclaz

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I don't know wich version of windows it is.

I can't load ntfs support from Windows 3.1, but I can load it in DOS before I run Windows. But it is only a read-only NTFS (you can't write anything, only copy to a FAT partition). And it doesn't support more that 8.3 name format (all the long names are screwed up). But you can use a program (Active@ NTFS Reader) to copy long file names to a FAT or FAT32 partition, but outside of Windows.

If anyone wants instructions on how to accomplish putting Win31 and making it boot from CD, please PM me (I rarely look on this thread, so PM me).

Edited by oviradoi

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Just one question: Why??

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Tguy: Beacause noone has ever done it before (not that I know of) and beacause at the time I didn't want to delete anything on the XP CD, and Windows PE was too large to put them all on one CD. Windows 3.1 looked as an alternative beacause it CAN be loaded, and it is about 10-11 MB compressed (it takes about 20 secs on a slow computer like mine to decompress) and 20-21 MB uncompressed (stored, it takes ~1 sec to decompress on a slow PC like mine)

Anyone want to know how to do it, reply here or send me an email.

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will like to know if you describe the process :)

remember: just the HowTo, this doesn't have anything to do with cracking :P

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I have 3.1 running on my machine as well, but I bet it didn't take me as long. I just used parallels workstation and created a 3.1 virtual machine, and now I can play all of my favorite 3.1 card games that I used to play in college!

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Same here, just added it for when I get that retro feeling :P .

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OK. It'll take me some time to retrace my steps but I will make the "How-to"

It has nothing to do with cracking. If you have the Windows 3.1 Kit, you'll be able to succeed.

Thanx for showing interest

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