syntax010 Posted September 18, 2005 Posted September 18, 2005 Despite the massive number of new people who are flocking to the Beta of Microsoft's anti-spyware program.... I have some concerns. It seems that those concerns are justified. Before you fall all over yourself to proclaim the new MS(Microsoft) Anti-Spyware Beta as the holy grail of PC protection....you might want to give this a read.M$ Antispyware ArticleThis is a very informative article that covers exactly why the MS Anti-Spyware program is no longer one that you or I can trust. It even goes into some good detail as to exactly why we can no longer trust what was once a great product.I have tested the MS Anti-Spyware Beta, and honestly, it's left me feeling more frustrated at the fall of a once great product, than anything else. The program blatantly disregards any customized user settings. Even if you tell it not to, it still shows pop-ups every single time that it allows something. That's right, every single time that it allows something to happen, a nice, informative, and annoying pop-up comes up to let you know what a good job the program is doing in allowing things to happen. I can possibly understand a pop-up, if user requested, when the program blocks something.....but a pop-up EVERY time that it allows something? That's completely ridiculous. It's also a feature that will cause many games that run in full screen to crash. For some reason, it also ignores user settings to not run a spyware scan of your files and folders whenever it suits the program's whim to do so. The so-called "Spynet" that you can subscribe to, supposedly for faster updates to newly found products.....is one that I don't trust as far as I could pick up and throw Bill Gates limo. Why? Because I do not trust the findings of untrained individuals, with no professional experience, to decide what is spyware and what is not.Sadly it seems that the war with spyware, unlike the war against computer viruses, is a war that is being lost. Even the best rated commercial anti-spyware program will only detect about 50-60% of the spyware out there. Sadly, a lot of those programs are unable to even remove some of the spyware that they detect. Freeware alternatives aren't much help either. Even with Spybot Search and Destroy, Ad-Aware SE Personal, and Spyware Blaster combined, you still miss a lot, and I mean A LOT of spyware that is out there. Even with the latest definition files for each of those programs, you're still not fairing too well at finding, removing, or blocking spyware.Is there a solution? It's hard to say. Part of the problem all comes down to the motive of any business......to make money. Why be in business if you aren't trying to earn a profit? Sadly, some companies will pursue profit by any means necessary. Does this include intentionally changing their spyware definition files to allow this product or that.....so the company can get a check from an advertising firm? It's scary to think of, but given the proof documented in the above link, it doesn't seem that far fetched.I also feel that part of the problem has to do with how spyware and/or adware is classified. They are classified as an entirely different animal from a computer virus. You won't find Norton, McAfee, or any of the other anti-virus giants, intentionally allowing viruses onto your PC. Why? Because computer viruses, regardless of their intended function, are ALL blatantly harmful in one way or another. Adware is just a program for putting advertising in front of potential customers. Spyware is just a program that gathers "research" information on a user to better be able to create new programs tailored to their needs....right?So then, what is the problem? Those don't sound too harmful. WRONG. Not only can spyware or adware cause all sorts of problems, but worse still they can lead to serious crimes such as identity theft. There is simply no justification whatsoever, for any company to resort to spying on people, and blatantly invading their privacy. Likewise, there is no justification for harassing people with unwanted advertising.
ringfinger Posted September 18, 2005 Posted September 18, 2005 A spyware app that leaves spyware on my machine and bugs the hell out of me? Yeah, I'm with you there... uninstalling now. I'll stick with Ad-aware and Spybot.
K e n Posted September 18, 2005 Posted September 18, 2005 That was an interesting read, it seems that MS are setting their standards as to what they consider a threat & ignoring the standardsled by other leading antispyware makers.
Zxian Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 I've never used it, and after reading this, I probably never will.There are many better ways of protecting yourself from spyware... first off - common sense.
Ðrзω™ Posted September 22, 2005 Posted September 22, 2005 Personally I wont use it cos 1) i dont need it as i have common sense & know what im doing on the net2) i have other tools & programs to remove spyware3) the messenger plus fiasco with it removing everything but the optional adware....they really need an overhaul on it and stop releasing a rebanded GIANT anti-spyware with a few changes
HybridShadow Posted September 22, 2005 Posted September 22, 2005 That link is downIt hasnt showed any popups for me i disabled themIt has found spyware/adware and removed it fineI used to use adaware but found this more useful and i like testing MS ProductsRemember that it still is in beta!Can some post a link to a mirror of that page please!
techniquefreak Posted September 22, 2005 Posted September 22, 2005 Cached link: http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:r00EPY...stworthy+&hl=da
HybridShadow Posted September 22, 2005 Posted September 22, 2005 thanks for the linkI dont get it because it sets somethings to ignore its untrustworthy or did i miss something, its not that hard to put it to remove, its removed gain software for me before.I wonder why that original link was removed (maybe it was an untrue story lol) anyway i will continue to use it
ripken204 Posted September 22, 2005 Posted September 22, 2005 check out counterspy, is has a partnership with gain just like ms does. and both are pretty much exactly the same.
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