MDGx Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 I have just installed 98se2me option 1 on my system and everything appears to work ok (I enjoy playing Spider solitaire on a windows 98SE system) however one small problem I now have is that Windows now no longer shuts down. I have tried reinstalling SP2a as described in the FAQ but it has had no effect. Suggestions please?When you installed Gape's SP2, if you haven't selected to overwrite newer USER.EXE + USER32.DLL files with older ones, this did not work.If re-installing SP 2.1a didn't fix this, you may want to replace USER*.* files manually, as quoted from READ1ST.TXT [the "98SE2ME.PIF COMPLETE GUIDE" section, under "* Option 2:"]:READ1ST.TXTOriginal files backed up as GDI32.W98 + GDI.W98 into %windir%\SYSTEM[usually C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM].How to restore your original files:Copy + paste text between cut & paste lines below into Notepad or betterplain text editor/viewer:http://www.mdgx.com/toy.htm#TXTand save it as GDI98.BAT (example):-----Begin cut & paste here-----@ECHO OFFIF "%windir%"=="" GOTO N@IF NOT EXIST %windir%\SYSTEM\GDI32.W98 GOTO N@IF NOT EXIST %windir%\SYSTEM\GDI.W98 GOTO N@IF EXIST %windir%\WININIT.INI GOTO W!ECHO [Rename]>>%windir%\WININIT.INI:W!ECHO.>>%windir%\WININIT.INIECHO %windir%\SYSTEM\GDI32.DLL=%windir%\SYSTEM\GDI32.W98>>%windir%\WININIT.INIECHO %windir%\SYSTEM\GDI.EXE=%windir%\SYSTEM\GDI.W98>>%windir%\WININIT.INIECHO.>>%windir%\WININIT.INI%windir%\RUNDLL32.EXE %windir%\SYSTEM\SHELL32.DLL,SHExitWindowsEx 2:N@CLSEXIT------End cut & paste here------Then run GDI98.BAT -> reboot.HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Mas Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 (edited) Or I could use [probably, did no test] the hexed versions of MM by X-max, which are part of his 98SEThe patch would be better because it adds missing APIs that require other programs towork besides MMlike AutoUpdate etc....Yes your right if the thing you're meaning is that KUP adds missing APIs that other progs also require. Edited July 21, 2006 by X-Mas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmelect Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I have just installed 98se2me option 1 on my system and everything appears to work ok (I enjoy playing Spider solitaire on a windows 98SE system) however one small problem I now have is that Windows now no longer shuts down. I have tried reinstalling SP2a as described in the FAQ but it has had no effect. Suggestions please?When you installed Gape's SP2, if you haven't selected to overwrite newer USER.EXE + USER32.DLL files with older ones, this did not work.If re-installing SP 2.1a didn't fix this, you may want to replace USER*.* files manually, as quoted from READ1ST.TXT [the "98SE2ME.PIF COMPLETE GUIDE" section, under "* Option 2:"]:[url=http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT]http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXT[/urlThe computer still doesn’t shut down with 98se2me installed. I have tried the above suggestion plus all the normal 98SE tricks including disabling system restore!!! Strangely the computer “system restarts” correctly. It hangs just before the message “it is now safe to switch off your computer” The computer is an AT type. Any more ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 ? If i'm usin 98SE2ME should i use Upnp from WinME or Win98.& would it b a problem 2 add DeskMenu from win95 powertoys Its really useful.I ask becuz I like things 2 be unattended so i don't screw up anything.Can u consider it please?I presume you are referring to this update:* Microsoft Windows ME + ICS UPnP Unchecked Buffer System Compromise SSDPAPI.DLL, UPNP.DLL + SSDPSRV.EXE build 4.90.3003 Security Vulnerability Fix:http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/ms01-059.mspxDirect download [223 KB, English]:http://download.microsoft.com/download/win.../314757USAM.EXEMore info:http://support.microsoft.com/?id=314757When you get time can you test this file cause its not included in the Upnp updatesUPNPUI.DLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGx Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 I have just installed 98se2me option 1 on my system and everything appears to work ok (I enjoy playing Spider solitaire on a windows 98SE system) however one small problem I now have is that Windows now no longer shuts down. I have tried reinstalling SP2a as described in the FAQ but it has had no effect. Suggestions please?When you installed Gape's SP2, if you haven't selected to overwrite newer USER.EXE + USER32.DLL files with older ones, this did not work.If re-installing SP 2.1a didn't fix this, you may want to replace USER*.* files manually, as quoted from READ1ST.TXT [the "98SE2ME.PIF COMPLETE GUIDE" section, under "* Option 2:"]:READ1ST.TXTThe computer still doesn’t shut down with 98se2me installed. I have tried the above suggestion plus all the normal 98SE tricks including disabling system restore!!! Strangely the computer “system restarts” correctly. It hangs just before the message “it is now safe to switch off your computer” The computer is an AT type. Any more ideas.Sounds to me like your shutdown problem is not related to 98SE2ME, but to some buggy system file(s) and/or system setting(s).I've never heard before of any shutdown issues due to installing 98SE2ME.Most common setting that usually fixes this, is to disable "FastReboot", as described here:http://www.mdgx.com/98-1.htm#98ESS://http:.../98-1.htm#98ESSMore tips here:http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#FWUE://http://www.mdgx.com/98-1.htm#98ESS:...m/98-5.htm#FWUE</a>FYI:System Restore installs + works only in WinME, not in Win98, no matter the 98 edition.Troubleshoot shutdown issues in Windows 98 + 98 SE:* Microsoft Windows 98 SE APM Battery Computer Lockup VPOWERD.VXD 4.10.2225 Fix:http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246817Direct download [158 KB, English]:http://www.mdgx.com/files/Q246817.EXEMore info:http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246615Requires Windows 98 SE Shutdown Supplement below already installed!* Microsoft Windows 98 SE Shutdown Supplement TSHOOT98.CHM, MSCONFIG.EXE 4.10.2223, APMBATT.SYS 4.10.2223, CONFIGMG.VXD 4.10.2222, PCI.VXD 4.10.2223 + VPOWERD.VXD 4.10.2223 Fixes:http://support.microsoft.com/?id=239887Direct download [504 KB, English]:http://download.microsoft.com/download/d/d...b2c/4756US8.EXEREQUIRED READING:- MSKB: How to Troubleshoot Windows 98 SE Shutdown Problems:http://support.microsoft.com/?id=238096- MSKB: How to Troubleshoot Windows 98 + 98 SE Shutdown Problems:http://support.microsoft.com/?id=202633- MSKB: Windows 98 Troubleshooters:http://support.microsoft.com/support/windows/tshoot/- James: Windows 98 SE Shutdown Troubleshooter:http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shtdwnse.htm- James: Windows 95, 98 + ME Shutdown Troubleshooter:http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm* Microsoft Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE Power Management Troubleshooter PMTSHOOT.EXE 1.30 + PMTSHOOT.VXD 1.10.0001 Update:http://support.microsoft.com/?id=185949Direct download [158 KB, English]:http://download.microsoft.com/download/win...US/pmtshoot.exe* Microsoft Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE Troubleshooter HTML Help TSHOOT.OCX 1.0.1.2123 + TSHOOT98.CHM Update:http://support.microsoft.com/support/windows/tshoot/Direct download [385 KB, English]:http://www.mdgx.com/files/TSHOOT98.ZIPUnofficial Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE HTML Help Troubleshooting Guide Fix [178 KB, English]:http://www.mdgx.com/files/98TSHOOT.EXEMore info:- ERPMan: Windows 98 Troubleshooters Fix Guide:http://erpman1.tripod.com/current/98tshoot.html- Practically Nerded: Windows 98 Troubleshooter Fix:http://dundats.mvps.org/windows/win98/98_Tshootr.htmAll updates + guides above found here:http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#98SEHTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGx Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 When you get time can you test this file cause its not included in the Upnp updatesUPNPUI.DLLI'll add this file to options 1 + 2 in the near future [together with clipsrv.exe].I'll also add irmon.exe to option 3.I'm also considering adding modded MM from X-mas W98UPG Pack to options 1 + 2, but I need more time for testing.All this, time permitting.I'll update this thread when I post the updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 (edited) thanks Edited August 10, 2006 by PROBLEMCHYLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_guy Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Why don't you add webvw.dll from MS05-049 to Option 3? It works on ME with no problem, and it only has 2 missing dependencies in 98SE, both in shell32.dll. What you could do is renumber it in Resource Hacker to 5.50.4134.7061.Also, a little note about Internet Games on your site. 2003 SP1 does not include ANY of the games.the_guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGx Posted July 29, 2006 Author Share Posted July 29, 2006 Why don't you add webvw.dll from MS05-049 to Option 3? It works on ME with no problem, and it only has 2 missing dependencies in 98SE, both in shell32.dll. What you could do is renumber it in Resource Hacker to 5.50.4134.7061.Also, a little note about Internet Games on your site. 2003 SP1 does not include ANY of the games.the_guyThanks for the tips.I'll see what I can do.BTW:This is what I say here:http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#SSWindows XP + 2003 Setup CDs include newer versions of these Internet Games.Nothing about Win2003 SP1.HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_guy Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 What I meant was that 2003 does not include ANY games.the_guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGx Posted August 1, 2006 Author Share Posted August 1, 2006 What I meant was that 2003 does not include ANY games.the_guyThanks.I've tried a late beta of Win2003, and it had the internet games.I guess they removed them in final/Gold/RTM edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGx Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 (edited) PROBLEMCHYLD:I did not add UPNPUI.DLL nor IRMON.EXE because:- I don't have any infrared devices to test IR*.* files from WinME CD.If you wish to test the IR files from WinME CD:IRPROPS.CPLINFRARED.DLLIR_NDI.DLLIRCAMERA.DLLWSPIRDA.DLLIRFTP.EXEIRMON.EXEINFRARED.INFIRCAMERA.INFIRDA.INFIRMINI.INFIRDA.SYSIRMINI.SYSWSPIRDAK.SYSRCOMM.VXDIRENUM.VXDon your 98SE OS, please do so, and let me know if they work [or if they don't].Open the INF files in Notepad to view interdependencies, file locations, registry keys, regsvr32 registration etc.You must have at least 1 IR device plugged into one of the serial [iR] ports of your computer mobo or into a 3rd party ISA/PCI add-on card.- UPNPUI.DLL is tied into the UPnP files, but *only* if WinXP ICS is *also* installed *and* properly networked.Without WinXP ICS/network, UPnP files are useless.And besides, 98SE doesn't include the other UPnP files [which can be downloaded separately]:* Microsoft Windows 98/98 SE + ICS UPnP Unchecked Buffer System CompromiseSSDPAPI.DLL, UPNP.DLL + SSDPSRV.EXE 4.90.3003 Security Vulnerability Fix:http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/ms01-059.mspxDirect download [223 KB, English]:http://download.microsoft.com/download/win.../314941USA8.EXEMore info:http://support.microsoft.com/?id=314941Requires Windows XP ICS client already installed!MSKB: Internet Connection Sharing (ICS):http://support.microsoft.com/?id=234815MSKB: Universal Plug and Play (UPnP):http://support.microsoft.com/?id=262458How to install UPnP Security Vulnerability Fix on Windows 98/98 SE withoutWindows XP ICS Client:1. Make sure Windows 98/98 SE ICS is already installed + properly configured:http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/icsclnt.htmMore info:http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics_98/2. Create C:\TEMP (example) from a DOS box:MD C:\TEMP3. Download 314941USA8.EXE (see above) into C:\TEMP.4. Run:C:\TEMP\314941USA8.EXE /C /Q /T:C:\TEMP5. Copy these 3 files from C:\TEMP into %windir%\SYSTEM (usuallyC:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM):COPY/Y C:\TEMP\SSDPAPI.DLL %windir%\SYSTEMCOPY/Y C:\TEMP\UPNP.DLL %windir%\SYSTEMCOPY/Y C:\TEMP\SSDPSRV.EXE %windir%\SYSTEMoverwriting existing ones (if any).6. Run:%windir%\SYSTEM\SSDPSRV.EXE7. Create a new shortcut to %windir%\SYSTEM\SSDPSRV.EXE into%windir%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup .8. Delete C:\TEMP.Therefore, because the purpose of 98SE2ME is to replace 98SE files with ME files, adding the UPnP files only adds to the size of the installer [which is now 3 MB because I just added Movie Maker ], serving no other purpose.HTH Edited January 3, 2007 by MDGx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erpdude8 Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 (edited) hey MDGx. I did test out your 98SE2ME pack yesterday on a Win98se PC. I will say that when I used option 1 to install 98SE2ME (it took a while), the multiple screen saver icon bug occured as mentioned in MS article 280722. However, when I installed 98SE2ME with option 3 to install the WinME Explorer/Shell interface, the multiple screen saver bug was mostly fixed and prevented the bug from getting out of control. With the ME Explorer GUI installed under Win98se and testing out an MS screen saver, it'll now only display ONE screen saver icon and not display multiple screen saver icons when running a screen saver & coming out from it subsequent times. It was just like that in a normal WinME machine.so the problem in MS article 280722 is mitigated by using the ME Explorer GUI under Win98se Edited August 7, 2006 by erpdude8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGx Posted August 9, 2006 Author Share Posted August 9, 2006 hey MDGx. I did test out your 98SE2ME pack yesterday on a Win98se PC. I will say that when I used option 1 to install 98SE2ME (it took a while), the multiple screen saver icon bug occured as mentioned in MS article 280722. However, when I installed 98SE2ME with option 3 to install the WinME Explorer/Shell interface, the multiple screen saver bug was mostly fixed and prevented the bug from getting out of control. With the ME Explorer GUI installed under Win98se and testing out an MS screen saver, it'll now only display ONE screen saver icon and not display multiple screen saver icons when running a screen saver & coming out from it subsequent times. It was just like that in a normal WinME machine.so the problem in MS article 280722 is mitigated by using the ME Explorer GUI under Win98seGood point.I'll mention this fix in 98SE2ME READ1ST.TXT in the next release.Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGx Posted August 9, 2006 Author Share Posted August 9, 2006 I have added this to the "KNOWN BUGS + FIXES" section of READ1ST.TXT:http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/READ1ST.TXTBUG [NOT related to 98SE2ME]:The screen saver left-over taskbar icons bug described here:http://support.microsoft.com/?id=280722seems to happen while using ANY Win98 SE USER.EXE version [including ALL WinMEUSER.EXE versions] EXCEPT oldest 4.10.2222 [original version from Win98 SEsetup CD].FIX:Install 98SE2ME option 3, which among other system files, installs newerEXPLORER.EXE from WinME setup CD.[thank you erpdude8]HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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