Petr Posted August 24, 2006 Author Posted August 24, 2006 Hmmm....Could lack of Pentium M microcode in 98SE be what causes my system to crash?...http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=79784It's a Pentium M 730 (Dothan) running on an Intel 865PE based board.I maybe upgrading to an Intel 875P based board shortly.I don't think so. Try to check the microcode update revision, for CPUID 6D8, the latest microcode update is rev. 20 dated 2004-07-22.Petr
erpdude8 Posted August 26, 2006 Posted August 26, 2006 (edited) It's a Pentium M 730 (Dothan) running on an Intel 865PE based board.I maybe upgrading to an Intel 875P based board shortly.can you be a little more specific on the Intel 865 board, krick? is it Intel D865PERC, D865PERL or D865PESO board?check the Intel web site for the latest downloads for your Intel 865 board.if you are going to upgrade to Intel 875P board, you better be using Win2000 or XP. Intel doesn't have drivers for Intel 875P board for Win98/ME unless it is specifically the Intel D875PBZ board. the D875PBZ board can be used under Win98se/ME/2000/XP. Edited August 26, 2006 by erpdude8
LLXX Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 Intel 865PE-based mobo, not an Intel-made one.As far as I know the 875 chipsets are nearly identical to the 865s, but with additional hardware features such as PAT and support for ECC memory.
erpdude8 Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 Intel 865PE-based mobo, not an Intel-made one.As far as I know the 875 chipsets are nearly identical to the 865s, but with additional hardware features such as PAT and support for ECC memory.ic
Guest jamesdean Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 http://www.winpack.org/sp20/mc/update_sys-wme.zip <- BAD LINKPlease post a new one! Thanks
Petr Posted September 17, 2006 Author Posted September 17, 2006 (edited) It is http://old.winpack.org/nsp_petr/mc/update_sys-wme.zipbut please read http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...mp;#entry341762Petr Edited September 17, 2006 by Petr
erpdude8 Posted December 22, 2006 Posted December 22, 2006 Found version 5.6 of Intel Processor Frequency ID Utility here:ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-support/3084/eng/fidenu25.exeLast version to work under Win98 Gold [1st edition]. Version 6 & higher require Win98 SE.And for those using the very obsolete Win95 OS, one could try version 4.0 found here:ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-support/3084/eng/fidenu18.exeThe next release after 4.0 is 4.5 which dropped Win95 support.It's just that intel doesn't seem to mention the old versions anymore at their site.even better, download and run the freeware CPU-Z tool from this site:http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.phpthis tool can do it all. CPU-Z can get info about your processor, memory, mobo and the BIOS that your mobo is using. better than using the Intel CPU ID utilities and better than using the BIOS Agent tool to get info about the motherboard's BIOS.
Petr Posted December 22, 2006 Author Posted December 22, 2006 even better, download and run the freeware CPU-Z tool from this site:http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.phpthis tool can do it all. CPU-Z can get info about your processor, memory, mobo and the BIOS that your mobo is using. better than using the Intel CPU ID utilities and better than using the BIOS Agent tool to get info about the motherboard's BIOS.CPU-Z does not display microcode revision so it is useless for this purpose.Petr
erpdude8 Posted December 23, 2006 Posted December 23, 2006 CPU-Z does not display microcode revision so it is useless for this purpose.Petrthat's too bad. oh well
LLXX Posted December 23, 2006 Posted December 23, 2006 O RLY?That was a D0 before microcode was updated - this was confimed by replacing update.sys with older one which didn't have the microcode for my CPU.
Petr Posted December 23, 2006 Author Posted December 23, 2006 O RLY?That was a D0 before microcode was updated - this was confimed by replacing update.sys with older one which didn't have the microcode for my CPU.Are you sure? I don't think that this could be possible."D1" just means stepping "D1" of Northwood P4 Processor, it is given by the 0F29 family/model/stepping.For example:(for CPUs in 478 and 775 pin packages)0F24 = Northwood B0 stepping, latest microcode update 1E0F25 = Northwood M0 stepping, latest microcode update 2B0F27 = Northwood C1 stepping, latest microcode update 370F29 = Northwood D1 stepping, latest microcode update 2E0F33 = Prescott C0 stepping, latest microcode update 0C0F34 = Prescott D0 stepping, latest microcode update 170F41 = Prescott E0 stepping, latest microcode update 170F43 = Prescott-2M N0 stepping, latest microcode update 050F49 = Prescott G1 stepping, latest microcode update 030F4A = Prescott-2M R0 stepping, latest microcode update 04etc.The relation between steppings and CPUIDs can be found here: http://processorfinder.intel.com/List.aspx...c=&OrdCode=It is possible to detect the microcode revision by CPU-Z but only indirectly and with older versions of CPUID (up to 1.35). Go to Tools -> Registers Dump and in the cpuz.txt file find the CPU informationName Intel Pentium 4Code name NorthwoodSpecification Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHzFamily/Model/Stepping F29Extended Family/Model 0/0Brand ID 9Package mPGA-478Core Stepping D1 and then MSR registers dump: MSR 0000002C 00000000 12110012MSR 0000002A 00000000 00000000MSR 00000017 000A0000 00000000MSR 000001A0 00000000 00000089MSR 0000008B 0000002A 00000000 - the microcode version is stored in MS 8B and it is 2A in this example.Other utility that displays the microcode revision is Everest.Petr
Max_04 Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Excuse me, microcode updates are for all languages (in particular in italian)?
Max_04 Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 Excuse me, microcode updates are for all languages (in particular in italian)?It's language indipendent, right?In 98 SE SP is there this update?
fuzzyeric Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 Would it be reasonable to make a new application that detects your processor and stepping and constructs an UPDATE.SYS to match? Then this constructed update.sys would be found/used on every subsequent boot...
asiekierka Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 Would it be reasonable to make a new application that detects your processor and stepping and constructs an UPDATE.SYS to match? Then this constructed update.sys would be found/used on every subsequent boot...Best to use one at finishing the installation.Like:If processor is one found in Win98SE UPDATE.SYS - leave it.If processor is one found in WinME updated UPDATE.SYS - replace it with WinME one.If processor is one found in another WinME updated UPDATE.SYS (i mean ones with the dual/quad-core stuff and newest processor) - replace it with that one.It should not be so big problem to prepare patch of the original UPDATE.SYS not to distribute Microsoft code.I think yes, then we could add all the stuff in one UPDATE.SYS
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