Browsers Benchmark tests

[Guest]

Start with Betterfox's Fastfox:

https://github.com/yokoffing/Betterfox/blob/main/Fastfox.js

consider that only the user experience of your browser can improve the parameters.
For example, I, at the “Parallel Download” setting of my Firefox (line 339) set the value 18.

network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server

 

You can integrate with secureFox.js (Betterfox) but also check with ArkenFox:

https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/blob/master/user.js

which is currently a few versions behind the current Firefox (but not important for some settings to change).

Anything you remove (telemetry,search suggestions.......) helps make the browser more responsive and faster.

Of course, choosing a fast DOH DNS also contributes..............but you are allergic when I mention DNS.

 

P.S.

Other key speed tips are:

use only 1 extension enabled (uBlock Origin) maximum 150,000 rules.
ideally, few network filters versus cosmetic filters would be ideal.
I for example have in my Firefox:

99431 cosmetic filters
37952 network filters

Even better is to use dynamic filtering.
 

Edited December 11, 2024 by Sampei.Nihira

[NotHereToPlayGames]

3 hours ago, Sampei.Nihira said:

Start with Betterfox's Fastfox

I'm skeptical.  I'm pretty sure I've tried that in the past with zero effect.  But here goes...

Before:
Speedometer 2.1, three runs          104          102          101
SunSpider 1.0, three runs              82.0         90.1         76.9
Kraken 1.1, three runs                 1405.8      1381.6      1377.9

[NotHereToPlayGames]

After:
Speedometer 2.1, three runs          114          113          115
SunSpider 1.0, three runs             82.0         95.0        88.6          average is 5.5ms SLOWER (ie, IceCat is FASTER without "Betterfox" config changes!, but statistically insignificant and within margin of error)
Kraken 1.1, three runs                1371.2       1361.8     1370.1          average is 20.7ms FASTER (but again within margin of error, I could have just as easily reran the above numbers and see where a "fourth run" landed and replaced 1405.8 above)

I guess I was hoping for MUCH BETTER IMPROVEMENT than that.  Especially when the GitHub page has the misleading (and basically false) statement of "Increase Firefox's browsing speed. Give Chrome a run for its money!"

[Guest]

Did you hope for better?
I have no elements to try to solve a problem remotely.

I don't know IC and I assume you are not going to use all 5 Bundled Extensions in your browser.
At least from reading the features,in my opinion completely useless.

Too many extensions slow down,they are often a bottleneck for a browser like Firefox that is already slower than a chromium-based browser.
 

Edited December 11, 2024 by Sampei.Nihira

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I have no use for the bundled extensions.

I don't even know what they are, I had them deleted before I ever launched IceCat the very first time.

For all I know, they bundled uBO, I deleted before launching, then I added uBO from my own archive (I never install from "stores", be it Chrome-based or Firefox-based).

I guess I was hoping for some Firefox tricks like JIT in Chrome (a single solitary setting that reduces a test like SunSpider from 230ms all the way down to 80ms.

THAT is a performance gain !!!

Setting HUNDREDS of about:congif settings and having SunSpider report 5.5ms SLOWER is just one of those things that Placebo Effect gut-feel users "perceive" as a 500ms "gain" but in REALITY is a 5.5ms "loss".

As everyone here knows, I don't do "gut-feel", lol.  Not claiming all "tests" and "benchmarks" paint the entire picture, but keep my gut out of the equation, lol.

 

It's just unfortunate that the world we live in has "banking IT" folks thinking we cannot transfer money from savings to checking unless we use a "mainstream" browser or a mobile phone "app".

I'm actually of the view now that it won't be long before I won't be able to make that transfer with IceCat either !!!

Ungoogled is the ONLY chrome-fork I have seen that is TRULY 100% UNGOOGLED.  (It's been 5-7 years since trying Brave and Vivaldi so can't speak for them at the moment.)

And IceCat is the ONLY firefox-fork I have seen that is 98% telemetry-free.  It will "phone home" when specific settings pages are open, but only when they are open.

IceCat never phones home if you set all settings while OFFLINE and then NEVER go into the GUI's settings pages.

 

I suppose 360Chrome actually kind of SPOILED me in the sense of TELEMETRY-FREE BROWSER.

Because of all of the blood, sweat, and tears it took to get it to my liking and share it with MSFN.

It was, admittedly, a GIGANTIC eye-opener to just how much TELEMETRY is contained within FIREFOX.

But here I am, once more in-process of reverting back-and-forth between Moz-based and Chr-based.

It's a never-ending cycle.  

Edited December 11, 2024 by NotHereToPlayGames

[UCyborg]

11 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I want FASTER, FASTER, FASTER.

AVX builds. Thorium (Chromium) and Mercury (Firefox) are available. Of course if you don't like them, you'll have to compile another fork on your own with modified compiler flags. Also plenty of disk space and RAM will be needed.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Thanks.  Still testing but likely will stick with IceCat.

Only tried Mercury AVX v129 so far.

Speedometer 2.1  ==  113  (only one run)

SunSpider 1.0  ==    85.5    131.3    159.3     slower than IceCat but IceCat is v115 and Mercury is v129...  IceCat claims to be releasing v128 soon, may wait until then before finally ditching Ungoogled v122...

Kraken 1.1  ===    1321.6    1284.3    1300.9     slower than IceCat

And IceCat does not have these mozilla/firefox telemetry connections at every launch.

Yeah, maybe I'm being too picky.  But even if I am, IceCat has passed that pickiness, lol.  But it is not as FAST as Chromium.  I don't think ANY firefox-fork ever will be!  

 

[UCyborg]

I also suspect it's probably already at best it can be while remaining Firefox.

[Guest]

17 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I have no use for the bundled extensions.

I don't even know what they are, I had them deleted before I ever launched IceCat the very first time.

For all I know, they bundled uBO, I deleted before launching, then I added uBO from my own archive (I never install from "stores", be it Chrome-based or Firefox-based).

I guess I was hoping for some Firefox tricks like JIT in Chrome (a single solitary setting that reduces a test like SunSpider from 230ms all the way down to 80ms.

THAT is a performance gain !!!

Setting HUNDREDS of about:congif settings and having SunSpider report 5.5ms SLOWER is just one of those things that Placebo Effect gut-feel users "perceive" as a 500ms "gain" but in REALITY is a 5.5ms "loss".

As everyone here knows, I don't do "gut-feel", lol.  Not claiming all "tests" and "benchmarks" paint the entire picture, but keep my gut out of the equation, lol.

 

It's just unfortunate that the world we live in has "banking IT" folks thinking we cannot transfer money from savings to checking unless we use a "mainstream" browser or a mobile phone "app".

I'm actually of the view now that it won't be long before I won't be able to make that transfer with IceCat either !!!

Ungoogled is the ONLY chrome-fork I have seen that is TRULY 100% UNGOOGLED.  (It's been 5-7 years since trying Brave and Vivaldi so can't speak for them at the moment.)

And IceCat is the ONLY firefox-fork I have seen that is 98% telemetry-free.  It will "phone home" when specific settings pages are open, but only when they are open.

IceCat never phones home if you set all settings while OFFLINE and then NEVER go into the GUI's settings pages.

 

I suppose 360Chrome actually kind of SPOILED me in the sense of TELEMETRY-FREE BROWSER.

Because of all of the blood, sweat, and tears it took to get it to my liking and share it with MSFN.

It was, admittedly, a GIGANTIC eye-opener to just how much TELEMETRY is contained within FIREFOX.

But here I am, once more in-process of reverting back-and-forth between Moz-based and Chr-based.

It's a never-ending cycle.  

Placebo effect?
I don't think I'm the only one in the world (I'm not wizard Merlin ) who has made custom settings in Firefox and on Speedometer test this browser comes out faster than Edge:

Edited December 12, 2024 by Sampei.Nihira

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Which Firefox version and which Edge version?

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Which Firefox version and which Edge version?

As you can see from this July 17, 2023 test, versions (more or less recent) have nothing to do with it:

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/speedometer-2-0-browser-benchmark.443389/page-2#post-3155108

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I'd kind of be more interested in a Before And After benchmark score.

An illustration of "this is what Firefox scored before making THIS LIST OF CHANGES and now this is my after score".

I want want WANT to make IceCat v115 faster than Chrome.  So far,  I CAN NOT!

So by all means, "spell it out for me" because I really do want to migrate to IceCat v115 (then v128 only *after* Official Firefox releases their "next" ESR Branch at which time IceCat drops v115 and picks up v128).

[Guest]

Right.
But I don't have this “before.”
I'm not in the habit of using a browser without my custom settings.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I'd like to trial-run *all* (except DNS) of your custom settings.  Unsure how to go about that.

I can not, can not, can not get Firefox to run faster than Chrome (I have no interest in Edge and have no clue if it is faster or slower than Chrome/Chromium/IceCat).

[Guest]

Of my complete settings (90% security/privacy oriented)?
But it's a huge job............. remotely.
Even uBlock Origin in Firefox is set up to complement the filter lists I have chosen at the DNS level.
You once replied to me that you didn't want to change the uBlock Origin filter lists.
You don't want to use a DOH DNS..... and I can imagine how many other settings of mine you don't want to use.
It is a “simulation” that cannot be replicated.

In my opinion you should get from Arkenfox/Betterfox the one that best suits your PC and the way you set up your browser which is certainly different from mine.