Overall performance comparison between different computers under Windows XP

[NotHereToPlayGames]

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[AstroSkipper]

5 hours ago, George King said:

@AstroSkipper I just repacked PCMark05 aswell. Silent WinRAR SFX and of course with correct key too. 

 

https://mega.nz/file/42lWza4A#zBnBzJ6EFdOuefA5yWTzIwwtk6LaPbjhI2OdD9-nBdM

Thanks again!  What is a little strange is the unfortunate circumstance that the Multithreaded Test 1 failed completely on my Windows XP computer even though I had installed the Windows Media Encoder 9. 

15 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

Test completed. Unfortunately, as reported, no PCMark Score was calculated due to two tests in the System Test Suite that failed:

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Multithreaded Test 1:
    Audio Compression: N/A
    Video Encoding: Initialization failed

 

Edited September 8, 2024 by AstroSkipper
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[NotHereToPlayGames]

My only failure was "web page rendering".  But no surprise as I have IE disabled and I do not "do" 'default web browser' types of embedded OS interlacing.

[UCyborg]

Guten Tag!

12 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

A small note. You probably meant rather "Auf Wiedersehen!". I’ll say then:

Yes, fixed it couple of minutes later, you still had original post loaded.

11 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

The graphics on my Windows XP computer is very weak anyways.

I wished for GeForce 6200 back in the day. When I was looking, it was the only card still available for AGP bus. Definitely better than GeForce4 MX 440.

 

Before 3DMark, there was Final Reality (Second Reality vibes). It has reference to Max Payne released few years later.

Edited September 8, 2024 by UCyborg

[AstroSkipper]

10 minutes ago, UCyborg said:

I wished for GeForce 6200 back in the day. When I was looking, it was the only card still available for AGP bus. Definitely better than GeForce4 MX 440.

The GeForce 6200 AGP is indeed a good one. It is absolutely silent as my version is passively cooled. Unfortunately, my motherboard supports only AGP 4x although the GeForce 6200 is an AGP 8x one. 
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-6200-agp.c2419

[AstroSkipper]

2 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

What is a little strange is the unfortunate circumstance that the Multithreaded Test 1 failed completely on my Windows XP computer even though I had installed the Windows Media Encoder 9. 

16 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

Test completed. Unfortunately, as reported, no PCMark Score was calculated due to two tests in the System Test Suite that failed:

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Multithreaded Test 1:
    Audio Compression: N/A
    Video Encoding: Initialization failed

Does anyone know why only this test failed?  PCMark05 otherwise ran smoothly and had nothing to complain about.

[Multibooter]

 

@AstroSkipper I love your topic, it reminds me of a pinewood derby, at the Boy Scouts, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinewood_derby , great fun to compete.

Below are the PCMark05 results for an old Inspiron 7500 laptop (650Mhz Pentium 3 SSE-only). Unfortunately no overall PCMark score was generated.
When PCMark05 started its 2nd test, "Physics and 3D", WinXP CRASHED with a black screen, I had to pull the plug, tried three times.
The 8MB AGP 2x graphics card in the laptop apparently does not work with all tests of PCMark05. After de-selecting the "Physics and 3D" test, PCMark05 completed the test OK, without crashing the computer, but no overall scores and graphics scores were calculated.

I then ran PCMark05 on an old desktop computer, which has also MS-DOS and Win98SE installed. The HDD inside is a 17-year old 7200 rpm 250GB IDE HDD. It has a Geforce 7800 graphics card inside, but the only reason why I don't use the onboard graphics is that the card has a DVI-D connector for a modern monitor. Below are the PCMark05 results.

Currently @UCyborg is the leader with a PCMark Score of 11,147

The window title of my screen shots is "PCMark05 - Professional Edition". The registration code by chip.de is only for the Advanced edition.
You can upgrade from the Advanced Edition to the Professional edition by right-clicking on "PCMARK"-> Unregister PCMark05 -> Register and then enter the registration code of the Professional edition.
The main benefit of the Professional edition is that you can export the test and diagnostic results into Excel, works fine with Excel 2003.

On 9/6/2024 at 9:23 PM, AstroSkipper said:

Probably every Windows XP user has it installed. Look here: https://archive.org/details/WMEncoder9Series

The same applies to DirectX 9.0c. It's essential and needed for testing graphics.
Since you don't really use your computer anymore anyway, it's probably no problem to install these things briefly.

https://benchmarks.ul.com/en/legacy-benchmarks
https://www.chip.de/downloads/PCMark05-Vollversion_13003873.html

@AstroSkipper BTW, my ancient version of Kaspersky has flagged the installer "PCMark05_v120_1901.exe", obtained from your download link, as riskware.
"detected: riskware not-a-virus:WebToolbar.Win32.Asparnet.dnq    file: Z:\PCMark05 v1.2.0 (26Sep2008)\PCMark05_v120_1901.exe//AskInstallChecker.exe"
When you extract the installer "PCMark05_v120_1901.exe" with UniExtract, data1.cab and data2.cab contain AskInstallChecker.exe, file modification date 15May2009.
PCMark05_v120_1901.exe is 92,260kB, is digitally signed OK 3Feb2010 and contains in turn PCMark05.exe, digitally signed OK 26Sep2008,

The original installer of v1.2.0, "PCMark05_v120_installer.exe", is digitally signed OK 16Nov2006, is only 88,531kB and does not contain the riskware "AskInstallChecker.exe" in data1.cab and data2.cab. "PCMark05_v120_installer.exe" is a hard to find file, and can be downloaded at https://ds-servers.com/gf/pcmark-2005/windows/v120/pcmark-05-full-install-v120.html [click on the big green Скачать  button, looks like "CKaYaTb"].

The 1st installer window of the original "PCMark05_v120_installer.exe" displays "v1.2.0", while the installer window of the riskware "PCMark05_v120_1901.exe" displays "v1.2.2". After installation, both builds indicate "v1.2.0" in their About windows.
"PCMark05_v120_1901.exe" is an example of the last version for WinXP not necessarily being the best version for WinXP.

Below is a screenshot from "PCMark05_v120_installer.exe", i.e. the original version of 16Nov2006 without the riskware. The scores are quite similar.

Question: I did not have Windows Media Player installed on my computers before this topic, and PCMark05 requires Windows Media Player 10 or higher. Is there a better/more recent version of Windows Media Player than v11.0.5721.5262 of 30Jan2009 for WinXP SP3?

Edited September 9, 2024 by Multibooter

[NotHereToPlayGames]

39 minutes ago, Multibooter said:

Currently @UCyborg is the leader with a PCMark Score of 11,147

Your CPU score is "half" of my POS Acer Aspire One.

In the world of MSFN, that makes YOU the WINNER, MSFN really taylors to the POS World and not the world of UCyborg's or my primary computers.

Here at MSFN, it's all about who can "make use" out of these SSLLLOOOWW pieces-of-sh^t computers.  

Edited September 9, 2024 by NotHereToPlayGames

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Actually, I take that back.

I think my POS Atom Intel N450 is still the WINNER.

[Multibooter]

1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Actually, I take that back.

I think my POS Atom Intel N450 is still the WINNER.

I am still new to benchmarking, where did you get the test results from? Isn't 730 better than 203?

[AstroSkipper]

1 hour ago, Multibooter said:

Question: I did not have Windows Media Player installed on my computers before this topic, and PCMark05 requires Windows Media Player 10 or higher. Is there a better/more recent version of Windows Media Player than v11.0.5721.5262 of 30Jan2009 for WinXP SP3?

No. Install it and check via MU/WU if there are updates available! On my Windows XP system, an update for the Windows Media Encoder 9 was offered.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

21 minutes ago, Multibooter said:

Isn't 730 better than 203?

Yes.  The E2200 is "faster" (*MUCH faster*) than the Intel Atom N450.  The "sarcasm" is that here at MSFN, the oldest and most ancient CPU may be the "slowest", but the owner of it is the *WINNER* in this game.

I look at it like a CORVETTE.  Anybody that wants one can go out and buy one!  Keeping a 1928 Ford Model A "on the road" is the real WINNER.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

20 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

No. Install it and check via MU/WU if there are updates available! On my Windows XP system, an update for the Windows Media Encoder 9 was offered.

Was it under "required" or "optional"?  I technically update my XP systems manually and not via MU/WU.  But I thought MU/WU offered "optional" updates that not everybody felt the need to install.  I could be wrong, been TWO DECADES since I've used MU/WU.

[Multibooter]

2 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

Install it and check via MU/WU if there are updates available! On my Windows XP system, an update for the Windows Media Encoder 9 was offered.

Thanks, I'll take your word for it. I have never used MU/WU. I have found this final Windows Media Player v11.0.5721.5262 by looking at https://web.archive.org/web/20190615000000*/http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/9/5/0953E553-3BB6-44B1-8973-106F1B7E5049/wmp11-windowsxp-x86-enu.exe

and then looking for the most recent BLUE capture which did not load a 404 page. The download starter of the last OK capture on 28Aug2019 is
https://web.archive.org/web/20190828083947/http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/9/5/0953E553-3BB6-44B1-8973-106F1B7E5049/wmp11-windowsxp-x86-enu.exe

and the actual download link is https://web.archive.org/web/20190828083947if_/http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/9/5/0953E553-3BB6-44B1-8973-106F1B7E5049/wmp11-windowsxp-x86-enu.exe

I have never really used Windows Media Player. Instead, I like a rare hacked, portable Korean version, with some English localization, of PotPlayer v1.4.19843 (6May2009), it works great under WinXP and Win98, and is probably the best video viewer for Win98.

Edited September 9, 2024 by Multibooter

[AstroSkipper]

1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Was it under "required" or "optional"?  I technically update my XP systems manually and not via MU/WU.  But I thought MU/WU offered "optional" updates that not everybody felt the need to install.  I could be wrong, been TWO DECADES since I've used MU/WU.

It was the security update KB2447961 for Windows Media Encoder 9 from December 2010.

1 hour ago, Multibooter said:

Thanks, I'll take your word for it. I have never used MU/WU. I have found this final Windows Media Player v11.0.5721.5262 by looking at https://web.archive.org/web/20190615000000*/http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/9/5/0953E553-3BB6-44B1-8973-106F1B7E5049/wmp11-windowsxp-x86-enu.exe

and then looking for the most recent BLUE capture which did not load a 404 page. The download starter of the last OK capture on 28Aug2019 is
https://web.archive.org/web/20190828083947/http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/9/5/0953E553-3BB6-44B1-8973-106F1B7E5049/wmp11-windowsxp-x86-enu.exe

and the actual download link is https://web.archive.org/web/20190828083947if_/http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/9/5/0953E553-3BB6-44B1-8973-106F1B7E5049/wmp11-windowsxp-x86-enu.exe

I have never really used Windows Media Player. Instead, I like a rare hacked, portable Korean version, with some English localization, of PotPlayer v1.4.19843 (6May2009), it works great under WinXP and Win98, and is probably the best video viewer for Win98.

My Windows Media Player 11 is of the version 11.0.5721.5293. So, a bit more recent than yours. Check for updates via MU/WU!

Edited September 9, 2024 by AstroSkipper
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