NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 In my 2016 LTSB Win10, I could disable Windows Defender Firewall. I am aware of the "risks" associated with this - My computer, My rules, lol. I am in-process of upgrading two laptops to 2019 LTSC Win10 and the Windows Defender Firewall can no longer be disabled. This ( https://github.com/ionuttbara/windows-defender-remover ) looked promising but tons of errors in the console window during execution and Windows Defender Firewall is still enabled. Any suggestions or alternative solutions? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekkaman Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) There's another thing you could try. There's Windows Ameliorated. Basically they used to provided a modified Iso of windows with all telemetry removed, all metro apps removed and even the activation was removed altogether. They got in trouble with MS because of that so they don't offer ready made isos anymore. They do offer a tool that lets you remove whatever you want from Windows. Maybe you can remove Windows firewall and Defender with it. Here's what they say in the website: Quote Windows catalogs certain system services and internal programs as components. AME Wizard will decrypt and enumerate the files and services contained by these components, providing an easy interface for their removal. Due to its non-destructive nature, this process is distinctly different than force-deleting files, as it surgically removes components in their entirety. Edited August 23, 2023 by tekkaman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCyborg Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) This worked on my 20H2: Turning off Tamper Protection Turning off Windows Defender (I did it using gpedit.msc) I also put WinDefend service on manual. PS: Your title and post refers to the firewall while the link you posted refers to the anti-virus program. Edited August 23, 2023 by UCyborg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 Neither of those seem to work in 2019 LTSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCyborg Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) How old is the media it was installed from? Wouldn't suspect Win10 1809 based OS is anything special unless something was added with updates or LTSC variant is somehow special in that regard as well. Edited August 23, 2023 by UCyborg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, UCyborg said: How old is the media it was installed from? It's dated December 2016. Oops, that's my LTSB. It's dated October 2021. Edited August 23, 2023 by NotHereToPlayGames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekkaman Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 From what I have seen Windows Firewall on recent Windows versions it's turned off if you install another firewall. The thing is, many security software pretend to have a firewall when they just rely on Windows firewall and all they do is provide another GUI for it. I think maybe the only way is to use the Ameliorate tools to remove protected services and files from Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, tekkaman said: use the Ameliorate tools Doesn't even launch for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekkaman Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 My guess is because it says in the guide this: Quote AME 10 supports Windows 10 21H2 and 22H2 https://docs.ameliorated.io/using-wizard.html Maybe you can ask in the discord if it works with older versions of Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 LTSC is a version of 21H2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampei.Nihira Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 If available,try using PowerShell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Sampei.Nihira said: If available,try using PowerShell. Is there a specific .ps script I should download/run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCyborg Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: LTSC is a version of 21H2. Ouch, no experience with this one...I suspect it's like Win11, where it's stubborn to hell, so there's probably no clean way to disable it. Why MS insists on making stubborn software and breaking all old (and sane!) conventions? Let me turn off the services that aren't essential for Windows to work! Edited August 24, 2023 by UCyborg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 For now I am opting to revert to 2016 LTSB. I have ZERO use for "Windows Defender" and I'm not keen on running an OS with useless and unneeded "overhead" running in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 13 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: For now I am opting to revert to 2016 LTSB. I have ZERO use for "Windows Defender" and I'm not keen on running an OS with useless and unneeded "overhead" running in the background. While the modern ntlite may not be the most convenient tool, people write it still can do this in Windows 10 LTSC 2019 but it's paid, not sure if it fits you. I can't give the link to the post because that site is known to store carcked software. Basically they wrote you need to go to: Components / Windows Apps / System Apps / Uncheck Windows Defender, hit Apply. Then need to go to Settings / Windows Defender / Open Windows Defender and Disable, hit Apply. There were multiple confirmations it worked in Windows 10 LTSC 2019. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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