Dietmar Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 @Svyatpro May be, that full XP SP3 can be installed on this Dell precision m4800 notebook. There are different versions of it. Please tell me all about its hardware, cpu, graphiccard, SSD or HD Dietmar
Dietmar Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 @Svyatpro The problem can be the USB. I make the same experiance of hanging at "Windows is starting" before. Make a try with a real CD-Rom, because this notebook Dell precision m4800 has an DVD drive. Use Ramseys XP SP3 from 29 November 2024 with the settings 5, E, F, M, R good luck Dietmar PS: In Bios you can switch between the 2 graphic cards. This can also be a reason for hanging.
reboot12 Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 (edited) 16 hours ago, Svyatpro said: Can anyone help me installing WinXP on Dell Precision M4800? Does this laptop have two graphics cards? If possible, change the order of cards in the bios or disable one and test with the other. Build WinXP 32-bit using my tutorial then install from USB: WinXP 32-bit on a modern PC (ISO boot.wim + install.wim) To make USB: connect USB stick (max 32GB because FAT32 only supports that) run CMD and: diskpart list disk sel disk x (x is USB drive) clean create par pri format fs=fat32 quick label="xp32_pe31" active exit mount ISO in virtual CD-ROM drive or open in 7z then copy (extract) all files and folders from ISO to USB drive Edited December 24, 2024 by reboot12
Dietmar Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 @reboot12 Hi, "However, it is possible to boot in UEFI32" does this mean, that now we can boot XP SP3 with graphic on a compi, that has only 64 bit UEFI (no CSM at all) Dietmar
reboot12 Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 (edited) @Dietmar No, WinXP 32-bit only on: old Legacy bios UEFI64 bios in CSM mode on UEFI32 bios without or with CSM On bios UEFI64 without CSM only WinXP 64-bit Edited December 24, 2024 by reboot12
Damnation Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 @Dietmar @reboot12 Have either of you given quibble a go to see if it can boot XP32 in UEFI64? https://github.com/maharmstone/quibble
reboot12 Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 (edited) @Damnation This is still in To-do list: Booting 32-bit Windows on 64-bit machine There is something like EFI Byte Code. The compiled EBC application is universal and can be launched both in UEFI32 and UEFI64. Exactly the same uefiinfo.efi application works in both UEFI32 and UEFI64: Maybe how to compile a loader, e.g. UefiSeven or another as an EBC, could be launched WinXP 32-bit on UEFI64 without CSM? Edited December 24, 2024 by reboot12
Dietmar Posted December 28, 2024 Posted December 28, 2024 (edited) On 12/23/2024 at 9:23 PM, Svyatpro said: Can anyone help me installing WinXP on Dell Precision M4800? I have a black screen after "The setup is starting Windows" at text installation mode. Tried different ACPI.SYS, IDE/AHCI modes - nothing helps @Svyatpro I can confirm this black screen via USB install of XP SP3. I use Firadisk for this, which works mostly. Here not. On some other notebooks I have seen the same behavior. It is the fault of USB implementation on this chipset Haswell. Install of XP SP3 on this nice notebook works only(!) via real burned XP SP3 CD in its DVD slot. Then, I get everything to work under XP SP3 on this notebook from Dell M4800. Waaooh, it is the fastest notebook, that I have ever seen fro XP Dietmar Edited December 29, 2024 by Dietmar
casey Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 On 12/28/2024 at 6:04 PM, Dietmar said: @Svyatpro I can confirm this black screen via USB install of XP SP3. I use Firadisk for this, which works mostly. Here not. On some other notebooks I have seen the same behavior. It is the fault of USB implementation on this chipset Haswell. Install of XP SP3 on this nice notebook works only(!) via real burned XP SP3 CD in its DVD slot. Then, I get everything to work under XP SP3 on this notebook from Dell M4800. Waaooh, it is the fastest notebook, that I have ever seen fro XP Dietmar Hi Dietmar, for install Windows XP make a version with XP2ESD, works on all notebook
Svyatpro Posted January 2 Posted January 2 On 12/28/2024 at 7:04 PM, Dietmar said: @Svyatpro I can confirm this black screen via USB install of XP SP3. I use Firadisk for this, which works mostly. Here not. On some other notebooks I have seen the same behavior. It is the fault of USB implementation on this chipset Haswell. Install of XP SP3 on this nice notebook works only(!) via real burned XP SP3 CD in its DVD slot. Then, I get everything to work under XP SP3 on this notebook from Dell M4800. Waaooh, it is the fastest notebook, that I have ever seen fro XP Dietmar Thank you Dietmar but where did you get drivers for: ACPI\DELLABCE\2&DABA3FF&0 ACPI\SMO8810\1
casey Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 12/28/2024 at 6:04 PM, Dietmar said: @Svyatpro I can confirm this black screen via USB install of XP SP3. I use Firadisk for this, which works mostly. Here not. On some other notebooks I have seen the same behavior. It is the fault of USB implementation on this chipset Haswell. Install of XP SP3 on this nice notebook works only(!) via real burned XP SP3 CD in its DVD slot. Then, I get everything to work under XP SP3 on this notebook from Dell M4800. Waaooh, it is the fastest notebook, that I have ever seen fro XP Dietmar HI, can you tell me how do you install XP via USB using firadisk? do you use grub4dos? if so, what commands do you use in the menu.lst file?
Dietmar Posted January 5 Posted January 5 @casey My tutorial and all files that are needed for XP SP3 and bit64 XP SP2 USB install via Firadisk can be found in den last XP from Ramsey Dietmar
casey Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/5/2025 at 5:57 PM, Dietmar said: @casey My tutorial and all files that are needed for XP SP3 and bit64 XP SP2 USB install via Firadisk can be found in den last XP from Ramsey Dietmar thank you, I tried it today and it works well, but I didn't understand the usefulness of firadisk, since it is grub4dos that completely loads the ISO file with the universal ahci driver integrated into the RAM emulating the CD. in any case, I consider XP2ESD the best solution to install XP on modern PCs
casey Posted January 7 Posted January 7 On 12/28/2024 at 6:04 PM, Dietmar said: @Svyatpro I can confirm this black screen via USB install of XP SP3. I use Firadisk for this, which works mostly. Here not. On some other notebooks I have seen the same behavior. It is the fault of USB implementation on this chipset Haswell. Install of XP SP3 on this nice notebook works only(!) via real burned XP SP3 CD in its DVD slot. Then, I get everything to work under XP SP3 on this notebook from Dell M4800. Waaooh, it is the fastest notebook, that I have ever seen fro XP Dietmar I had the same problem with a black screen while trying to install a Server 2003 ISO using the firadisk/grub4dos method. I solved it by opening the ISO with PowerISO and saving it with a different name to recreate the ISO file. I don't know why, but it worked.
PPeti66x Posted January 14 Posted January 14 @Svyatpro Installing XP (x86, x64) on the Dell M4800 is tricky. I had no problem to installing it from USB via GRUB4DOS/Firadisk after figuring out the display switching mechanism. If you have 2 display drivers (1st is built in to the CPU, 2nd is an MXM PCI-Express card), you need to check the "Video / Switchable graphics / Enable switchable graphics" in the BIOS after text mode reboot (and at 2nd reboot also, until you have no correct device driver installed for the graphics card - because if compatible OS is not detected, it is switched back at the next boot). And note: Do not install the Intel Graphics Device Driver, because you will get a black screen, when Intel Graphics is activated. Only the built-in universal VGA driver works for it. I have no solution for it - the display driver seems to work, but backlight (or the entire display?) is switched off. Then you will need to resolve the problem with the USB3, ACPI and the Realtek Audio. All of these can be resolved. Only this Realtek driver works: REALTEK_ALC3226-HD-AUDIO_A04_D3P06_SETUP_ZPE.exe (85 950 936 bytes) (it was released for a completely different notebook)
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