Geforce GT 710 cards under Windows XP, Findings

[MinimumAttic410]

Overheating is the problem now regardless of driver :/

I again put new thermal paste, a bit thicker than earlier this time but still card is damn heating too much after several minutes game play. Over 80C even 90C. When I touch the heatsink, it is burning my fingers. This is not good.

Edited April 3 by MinimumAttic410

[Saxon]

9 hours ago, MinimumAttic410 said:

Overheating is the problem now regardless of driver :/

I again put new thermal paste, a bit thicker than earlier this time but still card is damn heating too much after several minutes game play. Over 80C even 90C. When I touch the heatsink, it is burning my fingers. This is not good.

What about the fan? Or it's a passive card? If it's passive, try to put a vent near it. Passive cards reaching 90C are common. Max allowed for Kepler is 95 (shut down temp).

[MinimumAttic410]

5 hours ago, Saxon said:

What about the fan? Or it's a passive card? If it's passive, try to put a vent near it. Passive cards reaching 90C are common. Max allowed for Kepler is 95 (shut down temp).

it is low-profile passive cooling card : https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/asus/gt710-sl-2gd5-brk/

using it on my Lenovo ThinkCentre core 2 duo SFF pc.

[MinimumAttic410]

On 4/2/2024 at 6:01 PM, D.Draker said:

347.88 last stable driver for GT610 (also kepler, just like GT 710)

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/214437/34788-last-stable-driver-for-gt610/

it also doesnt support GT710 natively > https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/83083/en-us/

[j7n]

Upgrade to another video adapter that has a fan. Jerry rig a case fan onto the heatsink (will be louder). Does the case have a good airflow? Problem is that the video card's heatsink in down  in a pocket, so air will mostly go over it.

I don't think the silent cards are meant for demanding gaming, but for a quiet movie theater PC, where the load is lower.

[gerwin]

On 4/3/2024 at 8:16 AM, MinimumAttic410 said:

Overheating is the problem now regardless of driver :/

I again put new thermal paste, a bit thicker than earlier this time but still card is damn heating too much after several minutes game play. Over 80C even 90C. When I touch the heatsink, it is burning my fingers. This is not good.

I only have time for a brief test this week. I get 53 degrees C. After 20 minutes on Desktop with GPU-Z render test running that whole time. It is a fanless GT 710 in a small case. Light duty GPU temperature was 25 degrees C. See Image.

Edit for completeness: OS Windows XP SP3 x86. Driver 344.75. The card is a Gigabyte one with 2GB GDDR5 memory.

 

Edited April 4 by gerwin

[MinimumAttic410]

well my pc case is old core 2 duo SFF lenovo thinkcentre A/M57 : https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-m57-business-desktops-workstations/p/N82E16883798350

it doesnt have good airflow considering there is only oddly positioned 1x 80mm cpu fan and psu fan.

since GT 710 has overheating problem, i am using GT 730 nowadays (https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/asus/gt730-sl-2gd5-brk/). it has double-slot sized thicker heatsink but still passive cooling. i am getting 28-35C idle temps and max 70C on gaming with GT730.

so you say overheating problem with GT 710 is normal while gaming? but i am playing old XP games only. i know these cards are not gamer cards but games i play shouldnt be so demanding.

another example, before this core2duo case, i was using GT 710 on my other SFF lenovo thinkcentre M92p model (3rd gen i5). it is slightly bigger, more space and airflow with extra 80mm exhaust fan. i was getting 25-30C idle temps, and around 60-65C on load. still i cant get why there are too much heat difference between 2 cases.

now my only concern is heat except driver issue with my GT 710.

only reason i insist using GT 710 is the core2duo sff pc i got recently to make it XP gaming machine for old games. I know standard ATX case would be much better for airlow and card selection but I like small form factor more.

Edited April 5 by MinimumAttic410

[MinimumAttic410]

13 hours ago, gerwin said:

I only have time for a brief test this week. I get 53 degrees C. After 20 minutes on Desktop with GPU-Z render test running that whole time. It is a fanless GT 710 in a small case. Light duty GPU temperature was 25 degrees C. See Image.

Edit for completeness: OS Windows XP SP3 x86. Driver 344.75. The card is a Gigabyte one with 2GB GDDR5 memory.

it must be ATX case with good airflow.

[j7n]

7 minutes ago, MinimumAttic410 said:

but i am playing old XP games only. i know these cards are not gamer cards but games i play shouldnt be so demanding.

With undemanding games you get more fps, and can increase the resolution, until the GPU is fully utilized. Your screenshot of Most Wanted shows 71 fps and 68%. Maybe you can limit the framerate. Back in WinXP times people without a gamer setup migh have gotten 30 fps, 800*600.

Some of the earliest "modern" passive cooled video cards had the heatsink loop around the edge to catch some draft above the board.

[gerwin]

6 hours ago, MinimumAttic410 said:

it must be ATX case with good airflow.

An image of the Lian-li mini-ITX case is om page 2 of this topic. Don’t remember whether or not I added a small fan. Not home to check now…

[MinimumAttic410]

On 12/20/2022 at 8:04 PM, gerwin said:

if this is the case you are using, it is even smaller than my SFF case. surprised you getting very low temps in this case. is something wrong with my setup?

[gerwin]

1 hour ago, MinimumAttic410 said:

if this is the case you are using, it is even smaller than my SFF case. surprised you getting very low temps in this case. is something wrong with my setup?

That is the case I am using, yes.

Graphics card goes at the bottom. Heatsink pointing down.

Back then, when I assembled it, I checked the temperature by touch. It was within reason. 90 degrees as you mentioned, would not be acceptable for a build of mine. I don't know why you are getting these high temperatures.

[MinimumAttic410]

23 hours ago, gerwin said:

Edit for completeness: OS Windows XP SP3 x86. Driver 344.75. The card is a Gigabyte one with 2GB GDDR5 memory.

looking at Gigabyte GT 710 2GD5 images on google, it seems to have a fan on heatsink. so it is an advantage in this case. ASUS card i have has slimmer heatsink and passive cooling.

ASUS GT 710 2GD5 SL BRK > passive cooling - single slot size heatsink (terrible thermals in my sff case)

ASUS GT 730 2GD5 SL BRK > passive cooling - double slot size heatsink (reasonable thermals in my same sff case)

i believe your Gigabyte card is either double slot size card or using a fan.

well looking at Lian-Li micro-ATX case images, it has pretty space for components and airflow.

Edited April 5 by MinimumAttic410

[gerwin]

26 minutes ago, MinimumAttic410 said:

looking at Gigabyte GT 710 2GD5 images on google, it seems to have a fan on heatsink. so it is an advantage in this case. ASUS card i have has slimmer heatsink and passive cooling.

ASUS GT 710 2GD5 SL BRK > passive cooling - single slot size heatsink (terrible thermals in my sff case)

ASUS GT 730 2GD5 SL BRK > passive cooling - double slot size heatsink (reasonable thermals in my same sff case)

i believe your Gigabyte card is either double slot size card or using a fan.

well looking at Lian-Li micro-ATX case images, it has pretty space for components and airflow.

It is a passive GV-N710D5SL-2GL. Details in post no.3 of this topic. Big heatsink.

The Lian-Li case can actually take a full size ATX PSU. But I don't like how that blocks airflow, so I offset the ATX PSU to protrude 50mm at the backside.

I may have added a small case fan near the GPU. I am not sure, and cannot check now...

[MinimumAttic410]

57 minutes ago, gerwin said:

It is a passive GV-N710D5SL-2GL. Details in post no.3 of this topic. Big heatsink.

Yea it is clear now. it is using similar heatsink with my GT730. double size thick heatsink makes huge difference.