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Porting Win7 64bit EFI to New NB- Dell5590 (Coffee lake, HD630+Gef2060) from MSI GE62 7RE (Kaby lake,HD 630 +Geforce 1050TI),except Nvidia USB3 solved


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Hello,
im trying to port Windows 7 64 EFI too new laptop, because i have here nice customized 8 years old operation system. Linux and Win10, are running fine, but for my work is Windows 7 still best. I migrated it in the pass at least once from older laptop and it worked fine. Here OS already booted from NVME drive (Samsung) in EFI mode. Technically Kaby lake was also unsupported, but it worked fine for years, i only have to install some Windows unsupported pop up disabler. I already installed on old machine both Windows 7 NVME boot updates.

 I had no problem migrated this operation system to virtual system (Vmware workstation) and here is running fine, was able to uninstall drivers from old notebook etc, i can boot it even when i set boot drive as NVME device. Here i can setup things.

  I migrated cleaned system back to hardware, but i cant boot.. in any mode, i allways get free.. Some logo freeze in normal mode and freeze after CLASSPNP.SYS in Safe mode.
  I know/own  and used in the tools in the past for P2P (Physical to Physical) OS migration - as Acronis Unvirsal restore (2018) + Paragon HDD Suite advanced (2017), which could import some drivers to existing system from BootCD/ flash, lowlevel guys will probably point out that all of these is based on Sysprep, but i dont care about these low level details.

   This notebook seems to be specific, that it has only M.2 storage slot available, not typical Sata ports, which are mentioned in bios, but when i opened it and made quick check i did not discovered any Sata port and there is not even room for Sata device inside. Note there is lots on variants of Dell 5590, this one is one of newest - this one -

  UEFI settings:
  Its Dell.., but i can disable, there lots of things - Sound cards, web cam, LAN and Wireless/Bluetooth card, when i tried it, i still have still same boot problem. What is not available and MSI had it, some Intel HD / Geforce UEFI level switch, so both cards, optimus combo is enabled by default. There is Intel HD630, old notebook has the same Videocards (i tried to uninstall its drivers it not helps the boot), and Geforce 1050 TI, new one has Geforce 2060 (Which have Windows 7 drivers).
   To make Linux - Mint 20 working, i had to switch M.2 port from NVME from RAID mode (make no sense for 1 drive) to AHCI.. and i had to through safe mode fix Windows 10 boot, which stopped after switch. Old notebook based Intel 2xx chipset based, this one is 3xx, i made even WinXP, based Win7 working on such desktop board, but i dunno if Dell laptop has something special what would block make it working? Update: Linux is working, problem was elsewehere - bad fstab messaging handling when is partitionID is not exist and Minitool parition tool - which is changing ID - during partition resize - i reported which bug years ago :(

Some hardware IDs:
PCI\VEN_15B7&DEV_5009&SUBSYS_500915B7&REV_01  // Sandisk, Westerm Digital NVME - WD Blue SN550 NVMe SSD 1TB
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_A353&SUBSYS_08EA1028&REV_10  // Intel(R) 300 Series Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3E9B&SUBSYS_08EA1028&REV_00  // Intel HD 630
PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_2502&SUBSYS_08EA1028&REV_1F  KIller E2500 - LAN
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_A370&SUBSYS_42348086&REV_10 // Intel Wireless-AC 9560
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1F11&SUBSYS_08EA1028&REV_A1  // NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060
USB\VID_8087&PID_0AAA&REV_0002  // Intel(R) Wireless Bluetooth(R)
USB\VID_0BDA&PID_5521&REV_8511&MI_00 // USB\VID_0BDA&PID_5521&REV_8511&MI_00

 Here is Hardware Report export details:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3rgvlxbnaqcs0yl/AAAiXqi4YXKKslFsmdOdmMkQa?dl=0

 Now im stuck, i tried to import some Fernando Sata drivers (Through tools above), because even when im not using Sata device for boot, maybe are needed for boot.. but nothing, cleaned more things, but this same problem and im stuck.. i dunno what to try next.

Here is Windows 7 boot log:
- i never had too much knowledge about it.. Some drivers are loaded some dont.. and it looks like some loop, what could be point to some problem with boot storage device.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sa3zi9dzudpb804/ntbtlog.txt?dl=0

  At first i would like to know if problem is in boot device, or in something else, after that i can made some progress and try other things. Maybe someone with more knowledge could tell if this problem is typical for boot device problems or not etc.. Windows XP have some blue screen codes, but there i dont see anything to help to find more clues..
   This boot log is not last, later i tried to remove Vmware and Virtual box, because of virtual network devices and more but log seemed the same. I still have some TAP - OpenVPN virtual device installed, if it could be source of problem? But from experience - migrated tens of desktop machines same way, but only few laptop, virtual network adapters never were problem.
   So far i was just lucky with Windows 7 after HW change, it just booted..

 I dont mind later, exchange Wifi / Bluetooth adapter for some Windows 7 compatible.. if i will make it booting. I have some Killer E2500 driver, which maybe will work for Lan, i can test it later.
 If someone know good WIn7/Win10/Linux and MacOS (in next round, when would have mood and time) compatible Wifi/Bluetooth adapter let new know, so far - i google Dell 1560, but at least few users had problem to make it working with Win7.

 If you need more logs and info let me know. I would post some installed programs / drivers list from Windows 7 virtual, but i still dont nice good tool to make such report. Maybe someone from it can point to problematic program, driver etc.. i cleaned all obvious ones.

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Ok i finally learned how to make list of installed problems through Nirsoft tool.. there is also Autoruns report where you can see all drivers and services.. Maybe there are better formats, but better something than nothing.

  List of installed programs:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3q3ga742ztubj1c/reportInstalledPorgrams.html?dl=0
  // Later i removed some Lenovo leftovers, it were just some registry entries, virtual is still booting, but dont thing that i would have effect.
// You can see that there are some Intel USB 3.1 drivers and ME drivers, Intel Update manager - i tried uninstall them by standard uninstaller, but im getting message that i cant uninstall them, so far it did not try brute force and my guess was that they are not source of problem.

Autoruns report:
am format:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/egktwim6kv52m2d/AutoRunsReport.arn?dl=0
txt format"
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bjhu3kg2zvbilun/AutorunsAsText.txt?dl=0


 

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Lots of things happening now..

Here is just for complete story - Windows 7 boot log from virtual machine to show good boot log:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2b87k15w2is9ix7/ntbtlogFromVIrtualMachineBootOk.txt?dl=0

I found magic settings in bios and finally booted into Windows 7:
Its in Advanced Boot Option, Enable Legacy Option ROMS.. when i turn it on, i get some message that this is not supported on this Hardware and Windows 10 will not work..

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dfz4y4prsmcjlnb/2020-09-08 23.56.03-NotebookInsides.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8d6hhigmfiu3iip/2020-12-02 00.30.10-LegacySettings.jpg?dl=0

I dunno if this Warning is only some support Dell thing, or some hard show stopper problem.

I there is some waring about Windows 10, but i booted fine to Win10 through Grub2 a all seems fine..

Only thing which is now not working if Linux Mint - boot its storting from Grub2, but im getting black screen.. This is maybe because Linux was installed in EFI mode, but im not sure how to fix.. maybe only through Grub2 reinstall, update etc.. It need some time.

BIos has not classic boot profiles options, to make some for Win7 some for more more OSes.. there is only someting cooled Custom user setting, when i trying to safe profile, but i dunno how to inicialize this, during boot..

Windows 7 boot device is even it this legacy mode Standart NVME, what is nice.
I made Killer E2500 LAN working with some Killer universal installer which i found on the inter that is nice.
Otherwise lots of unknow devices, im trying quick way to make some install through SDI tool, lets hope that it will reboot.

 Main problem for Win7 seems to be videocards:
- I somewhere lost that Intel HD 630 driver, which i used in the past and worked.
and there is main obstacled on Nvidia side.. because Geforce 20xx is supported on Windows 7, but only for desktop cards, even if select laptop, there is only WIndows 10 driver for 20xx cards.. So it would need some workaround, patched driver, or its dead end and only Intel HD will work, which is good for work, but add for gaming..

 Disabler of that stupid unsupported Hardware is named wufuc and could be find on Github.

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For now:
Devices without drivers:
- graphics cards..
Network Controller - Wifi - it would need exchange.. - dead end, its not problem
PCI Simple Communications Controller  - this would be Managed Engine, i need some driver..
      PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_A360&SUBSYS_08EA1028&REV_10
Universal Serial Bus (USB controller) - 
          PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_A36D&SUBSYS_08EA1028&REV_10
           But i alrady have some Intel USB controller detected.. maybe its root hub it something.
Universal Serial (USB) Controller  - if is SDI tool right it is some nvidia usb type c connection
      PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1ADA&SUBSYS_00001028&REV_A1

 I also have to try again boot, in not legacy boot mode, but i guess that i will again get same freeze as before that, there is something missing in EFI inicialization for Windows 7..

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Intel HD 630 solved: // tested

There seems to be solution for Intel and Nvidia USB 3 too..  // Untested so far - Update: Rioline - Intel USB3 drivers tested - working fine..
https://www.win-raid.com/t4883f52-Solution-Win-drivers-for-USB-Controllers-of-new-Intel-chipset-systems-1.html

So only real problem is with Nvidia..  Afaik nobody made so far big mods with Nvidia display drivers, they apparently are too complex..
 

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4 hours ago, ruthan said:

Intel HD 630 solved: // tested

There seems to be solution for Intel and Nvidia USB 3 too..  // Untested so far
https://www.win-raid.com/t4883f52-Solution-Win-drivers-for-USB-Controllers-of-new-Intel-chipset-systems-1.html

So only real problem is with Nvidia..  Afaik nobody made so far big mods with Nvidia display drivers, they apparently are too complex..
 

Try getting desktop 2060 drivers, and installing those.

You might also have luck with the laptop specific .inf files shipped in the desktop drivers, in your laptop's case, you might have luck using the nvdmi.inf driver by manually installing the 2060 driver using it, if it exists in the .inf. If not, you can try nvdispi.inf

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First what i tried, so to install desktop cards drivers, but installed failed not supported card found.

 When i trying to force install from inf files, im getting strange message, that operating system is not supported:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl8ouyw1btmgh6t/ThisVersionOfWindows.png?dl=0

 But im quite sure that im running on Windows 7 64bit SP1 and i double checked that driver which im trying to use is for Win7 64bit too.

  I dunno if that is some missleading Nvidia error in inf files, or something my OS, but i installed lots of Windows 7 drivers in last days fine.. Maybe,maybe wufuc unsupported mesage disable can mess with it, but i doubt it. Maybe its Nvidia new way how to disable user install something from *.inf files.

  Anyway  here are my inf files:
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/lddsqb5zazja3nd/Infs.7z?dl=0 

  I found video how to simply add some ids to installer here, but im not sure if will fix unsupported OS message, or i probably have to fix it before...:
 

    I doubt that i would be that easy, as change ids, but who knows..

   I have tried all 10 drivers for Geforce 2060 or geforce 2060 Super its always the same, this message during forced drivers install and it take a while, if would guess that check Windows version would be first step during driver installation.

 My dev id is:
DEV_1F11  

 I found it mentioned only in 1 minor inf file, not in nv_displ etc.

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1 hour ago, ruthan said:

First what i tried, so to install desktop cards drivers, but installed failed not supported card found.

 When i trying to force install from inf files, im getting strange message, that operating system is not supported:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl8ouyw1btmgh6t/ThisVersionOfWindows.png?dl=0

 But im quite sure that im running on Windows 7 64bit SP1 and i double checked that driver which im trying to use is for Win7 64bit too.

  I dunno if that is some missleading Nvidia error in inf files, or something my OS, but i installed lots of Windows 7 drivers in last days fine.. Maybe,maybe wufuc unsupported mesage disable can mess with it, but i doubt it. Maybe its Nvidia new way how to disable user install something from *.inf files.

  Anyway  here are my inf files:
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/lddsqb5zazja3nd/Infs.7z?dl=0 

  I found video how to simply add some ids to installer here, but im not sure if will fix unsupported OS message, or i probably have to fix it before...:
 

    I doubt that i would be that easy, as change ids, but who knows..

   I have tried all 10 drivers for Geforce 2060 or geforce 2060 Super its always the same, this message during forced drivers install and it take a while, if would guess that check Windows version would be first step during driver installation.

 My dev id is:
DEV_1F11  

 I found it mentioned only in 1 minor inf file, not in nv_displ etc.

I was messing with drivers for rtx 2060 mobile on windows 8.1 back in june. I managed to get them installed, but as soon as You enter fullscreen app, whole operating system crashes. I think 2060 on laptops are dead end for older operating systems. I did my best

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Well, when you can give us info, how to reach your state, someone can make other steps.  Are games working at least in windows mode, but about new games and bordless window? Does it matter if it is OpenGL32,Vulkan or DirectX? Wasnt problem elsewhere was all these apps stable with Intel HD?

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14 minutes ago, ruthan said:

Well, when you can give us info, how to reach your state, someone can make other steps.  Are games working at least in windows mode, but about new games and bordless window? Does it matter if it is OpenGL32,Vulkan or DirectX? Wasnt problem elsewhere was all these apps stable with Intel HD?

My hardware id was 1F11. Driver version was 417.71 (at least I hope so, I dont really remember if I used this exact one when testing, because I was modding like 10 driver versions)

Windows was booted in test mode. My cpu was i5-9300HF (it did not include integrated graphics). every single driver installed just fine. Nvme, usb 3.0.. Few games did not start at all. For example minecraft crashed with unsupported shader model. Gta v launched and worked normally, until you entered full screen mode. I got only about 50-60 frames on normal settings, so something was not functioning correctly. Windows also said in eventvwr, that gpu driver stopped responding, but was succesfully recovered (this is rough translation from czech language).

Edit: and remember this was Windows 8.1. I have not tested windows 7, but I suppose it will be simmilar if not completely same.

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1F1 -Its same id as mine. Do you have some online threads with info about you tries and progress to check?

Booted is test mode..
I never heards about it, do you mean Safe mode? Its known that i safe mode is not good for games, i dont even know that 3D acceleration is enabled here, its big progress from XP or Vista..
My laptop is booting fine in normal mode, i can play all games with Intel HD 630, but its slow.. i paid lots of money for Geforce, so i want to use it..
   Had you installed Intel HD 630 driver too? Or you had just Standard VGA driver for it? Because whole Optimus stuff this could be problem.. and even with working desktop driver, it could be problem, but maybe just disable Intel HD fix this issues, if im not wrong even desktop driver package has some Optimus files inside too.

   For now  all devices except these are working:
- Geforce i have not working NVIDIA USB type-c controller - its probably mainly for VR stuff and some phone connection, but Canonkong made some driver for it, i only have problem to find it..
- Fingerprint reader integrated in power button - USB\VID_27C6&PID_530C&REV_0100 this ID, has no vendor if etc, so its hard to find any info or driver for it. Hwinfo is saying this:
Goodix fingerprint
- There is some other unknow Nvidia device - PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1ADB&SUBSYS_00001028&REV_A1  - what is other part of Nvidia USB stuff.

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6 minutes ago, ruthan said:

I never heards about it, do you mean Safe mode

No, I mean test mode. You can enter to that mode entering this to CMD: bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING ON. This allows you to install unsigned drivers. I did not make any online thread, because I was really unsuccessful and not satisfied with the results. Like I said, my laptop came with intel cpu WITHOUT integrated gpu. the system only had rtx 2060 for everything. Since my nvidia installer ran and "succesfully" finished driver installation it also installed nvidia usb drivers (not the type c policy controller, but it is unnecessary to have it since it only allows for VR).

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Hmm, i think that you can use unsigned drivers without testing mode, you just need to enable it in OS, is just always select continue when i get warning that driver is unsigned . maybe bcdedit +testsinging is doing same thing, i dunno. 

  Hmm, mobile cpu without HD, i had to check that Intel made something like that.. I need testing, have Intel HD beside Nvidia GPU, could be advantage, or disadvantage.

  If have somewhere driver, which somehow worked, it would be nice to share it and steps to mod it. After modification, did you used installer or you installed driver through inf file?

  

 

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1 hour ago, ruthan said:

Hmm, i think that you can use unsigned drivers without testing mode, you just need to enable it in OS, is just always select continue when i get warning that driver is unsigned . maybe bcdedit +testsinging is doing same thing, i dunno. 

  Hmm, mobile cpu without HD, i had to check that Intel made something like that.. I need testing, have Intel HD beside Nvidia GPU, could be advantage, or disadvantage.

  If have somewhere driver, which somehow worked, it would be nice to share it and steps to mod it. After modification, did you used installer or you installed driver through inf file?

  

 

Yeah, I'l look for the files tomorrow. Since nvidia installer does not punish windows 7 or 8.1 I used nvidia installer instead of inf installation method. I want geforce experience. Btw if you find the driver for usb-c for nvidia let me know. I have my ryzen desktop with rtx 2060 on windows 8.1 also, but I could not get the usb-c driver to work.

https://prnt.sc/vvdv8i

 

Btw I only now noticed that you're from the czech republic :D 

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