Updates Office 2007.

[Cixert]

I already had created an update list for XP (SP4 in Spanish that I have never published) and for .NET Framework that can be seen here
https://msfn.org/board/topic/151424-net-framework-for-windows-nt-5x-2000xp2003/?do=findComment&comment=1244701

WSUS 9.2.
Option Office 2003 & 2007
@LORPAL

My motivations to use WSUS offline update is to get updates for Office 2000-XP-2003-2007-2010 a suite that I no longer use but that I might need at any time.
The matter is difficult, I found ISOs at archive.org with updates that included from Office 2003 to Office 2013.
Why do I want them? I wondered, especially because Office 2013 is not compatible with XP.
So the mission impossible to get the loose updates for each version of Office began.
Now immersed in this impossible mission I finally notice and read this within the Wsus Menu 9.2.6:

Office 2003-2010 (OFC)
"If you select an office product above, Dinamically determined updates for office 2003 - 2010 will be included automatically"

So it seems that it is impossible to get those isolated updates with WSUS.

Entering the moment of the mission:
Great @AstroSkipper that we are getting slightly newer versions of WSUSSCN2.cab, but not too much.
In Office 2003 & 2007 if WSUSSCN2.CAB is used, what happens is that hundreds of files are downloaded, although they do not appear it could be Office updates for all Windows versions, and as I mentioned before, they contain updates for different versions of Office
The strange thing is that using the latest version of WSUSSCN2.Cab the updates downloaded are different if WSUS 9.2.6 are executed in XP (2529 updates) and in seven (800 updates).

However, thanks to @AstroSkipper, I have proven that using WSUSSCN2.CAB from 2019 the updates downloaded from XP are much less and contain a name that resembles an Office update more than to an update of Windows Seven or 10.

Perhaps to limit further to Office 2003 and 2007, a WSUSSCN2.CAB 2017 version should be used, which @AstroSkipper has also facilitated.

If with WSUS 11.9.6 the updates for Office 2010 are discharged, the size reaches 13 GIB. So it is easy to think that it not only contains updates for Office 2010.
And there is the question of checking if these updates can be installed on Windows XP, in any of the aforementioned Office.
The 2007 Office download with WSUSSCN2.CAB from 2019 contains updates of March 2019, when theoretically they have been discontinued since 2017.

So yes, it seems impossible.

 

Edited August 3, 2024 by Cixert

[user57]

well i dont think the 13 gb are the size if you combine all to 1 installer

these small installers always use codes and files that take "extra disc-space" also some are reppetiv that means also less disc space

 

2000 files definatly are some longer work 

but for a such size a programm would be a solution that maybe logs these KB upgrades (that still make it some work, but you are far faster when you just have a programm that says you what this installer in doing)

in LLVM i had this problem it was around 130-180 executables/dlls/modules that had this version problem , so i made a small programm to fix all of these ~150 executables with that programm - that worked out

 

if you do so you will have just 1 executable that install that office 2003 in 1 step 

 

 

 

actually if you want a more simple method this 1 is fast to do:

you write a script (for example a .bat/batch file) where you says "run" kb1 /q (for quied and doing it) the next line follows "run" kb /q and so on...

 

that dont make it very fast but that is still certainly better then downloading them and running them step-wise

[AstroSkipper]

9 hours ago, Cixert said:

If with WSUS 11.9.6 the updates for Office 2010 are discharged, the size reaches 13 GIB. So it is easy to think that it not only contains updates for Office 2010.
And there is the question of checking if these updates can be installed on Windows XP, in any of the aforementioned Office.

Some days ago, I downloaded all updates for Office 2010. For doing so, I chose WSUS Offline Update 11.9.6, as more recent versions ditched the support for Office 2010, the OS Windows 10 and the most recent wsusscn2.cab file from the Microsoft Update server downloaded by WSUS Offline Update. As far as I could see, it worked.  But I didn't compare it with my download session I performed some years ago. I will add the download size later when I am back at this notebook.

Edited August 3, 2024 by AstroSkipper
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[AstroSkipper]

2 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

But I didn't compare it with my download session I performed some years ago. I will add the download size later when I am back at this notebook.

As far as I could see, some updates are missing. Now, I am downloading again but using the wsusscn2.cab file from 11.02.2021 which fits in with the fact that support of Office 2010 ended on 13.10.2020.

Edited August 3, 2024 by AstroSkipper

[Cixert]

On 8/3/2024 at 3:19 PM, AstroSkipper said:

As far as I could see, some updates are missing. Now, I am downloading again but using the wsusscn2.cab file from 11.02.2021 which fits in with the fact that support of Office 2010 ended on 13.10.2020.

Official support vs. End of updates (is different)
Office 2007 support 2017-10-10 End of updates 2018-04 2019-02
Office 2010 support 2020-10-23 End of updates 2021-04

On 8/3/2024 at 1:53 AM, Cixert said:

I copied and pasted ExcludeList-superseded.txt with 1640 KiB and ran WSUS with the latest wsusscn2.cab with the "Cleanup download directories" option.
Now 290 updates are downloaded instead of 559 and the folder finally has 303 updates left.
You can try the updated version for XP (without .NET) of ExcludeList-superseded.txt or download this version from 2020-July (latest SHA-1) that they say works from Windows 2000 to Seven.
https://archive.org/details/wsusscn2
It's funny that according to Microsoft the new version works since 2007-March
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/a-new-version-of-the-windows-update-offline-scan-file-wsusscn2-cab-is-available-for-advanced-users-fe433f4d-44f4-28e3-88c5-5b22329c0a08

But we are already checking that it doesn't work...
What I don't know is if we copy and paste the version for XP without .NET if it will have .NET since I am seeing that the version of ExcludeList-superseded.txt is different for each option checked.

I have verified all the superseded links for NDP40 contained within "Excludelist-Supersed.txt" (1911 kib) downloaded in 2024-07-31 with the latest version WSUSSCN2.CAB (2024-07-11).
I was afraid that there would be KB replaced by versions for Windows NT 6.x that were not compatible with XP.
But the links are correct.
I recommend using this version for XP with .NET option, you just have to make a copy/paste And I think that after running WSUS is not replaced by the empty file.

*Only in XP 64 the links for ndp40-kb3072309-x64_346f3daad482494db68bbd8935b0764dc8235174.exe must be eliminated on the list, since it is officially only superseded in x86.

Although according to this post it is replaced by KB4014605 w2003 CSA version.
https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/repack-net-framework-aio-for-windows-xp-server-2003-2024-04-10.85522/page-2#post-1790237

Edited August 26, 2024 by Cixert
Last update for Office 2007 is in 2019-02-02

[AstroSkipper]

41 minutes ago, Cixert said:

1 hour ago, AstroSkipper said:

As far as I could see, some updates are missing. Now, I am downloading again but using the wsusscn2.cab file from 11.02.2021 which fits in with the fact that support of Office 2010 ended on 13.10.2020.

Official support vs. End of updates (is different)
Office 2007 support 2017-10-10 End of updates 2018-04
Office 2010 support 2020-10-23 End of updates 2021-04

Where did you find that? I only found that what I already posted: 
https://learn.microsoft.com/de-de/lifecycle/products/microsoft-office-2010

Edited August 3, 2024 by AstroSkipper

[Cixert]

28 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

Where did you find that? I only found that what I already posted: 
https://learn.microsoft.com/de-de/lifecycle/products/microsoft-office-2010

Office 2010 at least April 9, 2021
https://msfn.org/board/topic/181259-slipstreaming-all-mso-2010-updates/?do=findComment&comment=1196828

About Office 2007 I read it in other post...

 

Edited August 3, 2024 by Cixert

[AstroSkipper]

2 hours ago, Cixert said:

I have verified all the superseded links for NDP40 contained within "Excludelist-Supersed.txt" (1911 kib) downloaded in 2024-07-31 with the latest version WSUSSCN2.CAB (2024-07-11).
I was afraid that there would be KB replaced by versions for Windows NT 6.x that were not compatible with XP.
But the links are correct.
I recommend using this version for XP with .NET option, you just have to make a copy/paste And I think that after running WSUS is not replaced by the empty file.

That's what I already did. However, when finished, I got an empty Excludelist-Supersed.txt file.

[Cixert]

5 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

That's what I already did. However, when finished, I got an empty Excludelist-Supersed.txt file.

I'm going to do it again for .Net.
For Office, you have any link with WSUSSCN2.CAB from 2021?

[AstroSkipper]

52 minutes ago, Cixert said:

I'm going to do it again for .Net.
For Office, you have any link with WSUSSCN2.CAB from 2021?

I already downloaded again all Office 2010 updates using the wsusscn2.cab file archived on 04.05.2021 (inside the cab file, you see the files are from 13.04.2021 ) on archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20210504233947/http://download.windowsupdate.com/microsoftupdate/v6/wsusscan/wsusscn2.cab. When you're ready, we can compare.

Edited August 3, 2024 by AstroSkipper
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[AstroSkipper]

53 minutes ago, Cixert said:

I'm going to do it again for .Net.

I am also doing that under Windows 10 at the moment. Just to see whether there are differences to what I already got under Windows XP.

[AstroSkipper]

16 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

I already downloaded again all Office 2010 updates using the wsusscn2.cab file archived on 04.05.2021 (inside the cab file, you see the files are from 13.04.2021 ) on archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20210504233947/http://download.windowsupdate.com/microsoftupdate/v6/wsusscan/wsusscn2.cab. When you're ready, we can compare.

Here are my first results:
Size of the folder client\o2k10: 729 MB
Size of the folder client\ofc: 5.02 GB

As already mentioned, I used WSUS Offline Update 11.9.6. My download log doesn't show any failed downloads. So what sizes did you get? Shall we also compare the number of files in each folder? 

Edited August 4, 2024 by AstroSkipper
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[Cixert]

3 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

That's what I already did. However, when finished, I got an empty Excludelist-Supersed.txt file.

I am running WSUS 9.2.6 XP64 with .NET & C++ right now and it is working fine.
The Excludelist-Supersed.txt file I paste when you script says pause.
If I paste it before it is replaced by the empty version.

I am using the latest version wsusscn2.cab and its extracted Excludelist-Supersed.txt file from running WSUS 9.2.6 looking for XP updates without .NET

[AstroSkipper]

13 hours ago, Cixert said:

I am running WSUS 9.2.6 XP64 with .NET & C++ right now and it is working fine.
The Excludelist-Supersed.txt file I paste when you script says pause.
If I paste it before it is replaced by the empty version.

I am using the latest version wsusscn2.cab and its extracted Excludelist-Supersed.txt file from running WSUS 9.2.6 looking for XP updates without .NET

The download of all Windows XP x86 updates has also been completed. The download took place under Windows 10 with WSUS Offline Update 9.2.6, the latest version of the wsusscn2.cab file automatically fetched by WSUS and C++ Libraries and .NET Frameworks enabled.

Here are my results:
Size of the folder client\cpp: 87.6 MB
Size of the folder client\dotnet: 960 MB
Size of the folder client\win: 148 MB
Size of the folder client\wxp: 735 MB

The file ExcludeList-superseded.txt was extracted correctly and automatically copied to the exclude folder. The file size is 1.86 MB (1956216 B). So, no need to manually extract and paste. Strangely, despite exclusions (among others ndp48-), a number of ndp48-kb* files were downloaded and saved in the folder client\dotnet\x86-glb where I had to remove them during the last pause before creating the iso image. No idea why they were saved.  But all in all, everything worked perfectly.   My download log only shows those files as failed downloads already mentioned in previous posts. I added them during the last pause. And regarding the download of Office 2010 updates, the method of injecting an older version of wsusscn2.cab also worked fine, exactly the way I had planned and hoped. 

Edited August 4, 2024 by AstroSkipper
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[AstroSkipper]

@Cixert BTW, thanks again for the hint in terms of the issue getting an empty ExcludeList-superseded.txt file! Now, I am curious about your download sizes for comparison. 

Edited August 4, 2024 by AstroSkipper