JorgeA Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 16 hours ago, vinifera said: lol and what is Abandoned if not Ended support ... no fixes = no official support = end = abandoned Microsoft could argue that they're still maintaining the XP code for POS systems and (IIRC) for a few customers who are willing to pay big money for specialized support. The fact that XP users can still get the MRT and Windows Defender updates may also be enough for MSFT to say that they haven't in fact "abandoned" XP. (I don't know, however, if users of pre-SP3 XP can still get these.) Of course, that's little consolation for someone on XP, but from a legal perspective it probably holds water. --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 This afternoon I found someone else complaining about something that's bothered me about Win10: Quote By BAD design, the back button in Windows Explorer is shrinking from a comfortable one in Win XP to a ridiculously unusable size in Win 10. [...] So, is there a trick to make a bigger back (and forward) button? Or are we doomed to follow the bad design of who-knows-who? Honestly, the guy(s) who made this decision should be fired. I find it hard to believe that so few people have viewed this as a practical UX problem. Last time I checked, no one had even replied to the post. --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 yeh but POS ready is only for SP3 "level", not rtm/sp1/sp2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Thanks for the info. Does pre-SP3 XP get the monthly MRT and the Defender definitions? --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 1 hour ago, JorgeA said: I find it hard to believe that so few people have viewed this as a practical UX problem. Last time I checked, no one had even replied to the post. --JorgeA It's probably because it's just another irritating detail lost in the roar. -Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 2 hours ago, NoelC said: It's probably because it's just another irritating detail lost in the roar. -Noel Good point -- merely one more drop in the ocean of defects and annoyances. --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpclient Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Classic Shell has toolbar buttons of adjustable size and full customization. You can ignore the awful Ribbon and everything else and only use its toolbar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rn10950 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 6 hours ago, JorgeA said: This afternoon I found someone else complaining about something that's bothered me about Win10: === Quote that new board software removed === By BAD design, the back button in Windows Explorer is shrinking from a comfortable one in Win XP to a ridiculously unusable size in Win 10. [...] So, is there a trick to make a bigger back (and forward) button? Or are we doomed to follow the bad design of who-knows-who? Honestly, the guy(s) who made this decision should be fired. === end removed quote === I find it hard to believe that so few people have viewed this as a practical UX problem. Last time I checked, no one had even replied to the post. --JorgeA I continue to retain my belief that Explorer reached its peak of functionality in its Windows 98 - 2003 variation. Anything after, MS removed functionality (like the "Up" button, who's genius idea was it to remove that. Yes, the Back button is there, but the Back and Up buttons don't necessarily point to the same place, such as if you followed a shortcut.) in order to make it look more "sleek and modern" or added pointless features like "Libraries". I also find it hilarious that nuMS keeps making the titlebars fatter while at the same time making the buttons on the toolbars smaller, or in some cases, nonexistent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agorima Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) In Windows Vista and later, I can't put Explorer in this way (very useful especially when I deal with many items within a folder in a small screen) Edited May 30, 2016 by Agorima adding words and deleting picture 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Let me be the first to agree that things being more spaced out by Microsoft in the more recent releases is a bad thing. I've gone to some lengths to see to it that I can put more things in Explorer's Details View. Who really needs big fonts and lots of empty space? Isn't the actual information the important part? Where does it lead? All empty space and no information? Is laying in a recliner, hooked up with tubes and wires, and only ever twitching a little really the goal? -Noel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 thats why i liked later Longhorn installations it was still just background, without "detailed info" - which is useless btw but on the bottom it showed the 3 stages of setup, which is only thing... there is 1. dvd dumps needed files for setup 2. WIM gets unpacked 3. "OS" is getting configured for user (MS OOBE) everytime i look at vista/7 setup makes me vomit 1. Copying windows files... - okay... 2. Expanding windows files... - WRONG !!! you're extracting them from archive 3. Installing features... - WTF what f****** features ? this aint Feature Pack nor "Extras" ! 4. Installing updates... - WTF ??? - if there are any they are INTEGRATED DOH !!! STEP 2 MORONS !!! 5. Completing installation... - no s***... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 21 hours ago, rn10950 said: I continue to retain my belief that Explorer reached its peak of functionality in its Windows 98 - 2003 variation. Anything after, MS removed functionality (like the "Up" button, who's genius idea was it to remove that. Yes, the Back button is there, but the Back and Up buttons don't necessarily point to the same place, such as if you followed a shortcut.) in order to make it look more "sleek and modern" or added pointless features like "Libraries". I also find it hilarious that nuMS keeps making the titlebars fatter while at the same time making the buttons on the toolbars smaller, or in some cases, nonexistent. I never did like the "My Documents" pseudo-directory, which for me only led to confusion and hair-pulling on those occasions when I needed to know where the file REALLY was stored. IIRC, the "My Documents" misdirection already existed in Windows 3.1, and certainly in Windows 98. Good point about the Up button. --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 13 hours ago, Agorima said: In Windows Vista and later, I can't put Explorer in this way (very useful especially when I deal with many items within a folder in a small screen) Out of curiosity, I tried to duplicate in Vista below what you did up there in XP. How does it compare? --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 10 hours ago, NoelC said: Let me be the first to agree that things being more spaced out by Microsoft in the more recent releases is a bad thing. I've gone to some lengths to see to it that I can put more things in Explorer's Details View. Who really needs big fonts and lots of empty space? Isn't the actual information the important part? Where does it lead? All empty space and no information? Is laying in a recliner, hooked up with tubes and wires, and only ever twitching a little really the goal? -Noel Touché. My "favorite" one is the BSOD which now says, idiotically, "Oops! Something went wrong" with a sad emoticon. My reaction always is, "You don't say, genius!" Windows used to be a professional/business OS that respected the user and didn't talk down to him (or her). Now it addresses the user condescendingly with this colloquial language. I can picture the Windows developers seeing themselves as patting the head of the cretin they imagine they're addressing with this kind of talk. "There, there, it'll be all right, don't you worry my little one! Mama Microsoft will make sure everything's taken care of." --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 regarding the up button, sorry to say but its only good for 4:3 monitors any other widescreen gets good use of "breadcrumbs" or why don't you just set folders to expand to place you go... single click on treeview on left is again enough to get "up" 1 level Quote Out of curiosity, I tried to duplicate in Vista below what you did up there in XP he has 16x16 view there you have 32x32 can't compare that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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