NoelC Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 "...continues to refine and improve the user interface..." Somehow a headline like that outrages me. -Noel
JorgeA Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 As far I have tried leaked build 10036: Installation of build is worse than before Thanks for the rundown. It's "nice" to know that they've made it even harder to work in a local account. Evidently the idea is to make it as likely as possible to catch the user in the Microsoft net without getting accused of actually requiring her to have this account. About Aero Glass, I guess it was too optimistic of me to bring up that possibility. --JorgeA
JorgeA Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 "...continues to refine and improve the user interface..." Somehow a headline like that outrages me. -Noel Yeah, it's looking ever more like Windows 1 or 2, isn't it? The thing that gets me is how they keep throwing good money (and good customers) after bad. The latest financial report says that Microsoft sold 10.5 million Windows phones in the second quarter of fiscal year 2015; that's about as many phones as Samsung sells in two weeks. On the tablet side, Microsoft won't release actual numbers of units sold, but sales were recently estimated at about 1.275 million Surface tablets in the same quarter. Projecting that out to a full year, compared to 2014 global tablet shipments of some 230 million you get a whopping 2.2% share of that market and you're in Blackberry territory. For these anemic results Microsoft is alienating so many in their core customer base, where historically they've been so successful. The mobile tail keeps wagging the desktop dog. --JorgeA
vinifera Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) winborders to be transparent isn't problembut if they extend it onto explorer they will have problems coz of stupid ribbon you can see that even office 2010 have solid color + fade behind ribbon,any transparency would kill the user interaction with it Edited March 17, 2015 by vinifera
JorgeA Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Windows 10 will save disk space and no longer require a recovery partition Windows 10 compresses system files and removes recovery image to increase disk space Microsoft Explains OS Compression in Windows 10 Windows 10 will ditch conventional recovery image and give space back to users The main reason given for these changes is to "save precious disk space." Given that disk space isn't so precious on a 1TB HDD, one hopes that Microsoft will have the sense to allow recovery partitions to continue to exist in desktop and laptop computers. While not a panacea, they are a useful additional line of defense when it comes to getting back to business when Windows gets borked. Or is this going to be yet another area where serious users with real PCs will get shoehorned into the midget footwear of a mobile device? The recovery process is described as follows by, for example, Neowin: With Windows 10, the 'Refresh' and 'Reset' feature will rebuild the OS using runtime system files. The question that came to mind immediately was expressed by a Neowin commenter: Without an actual recovery image you won't be able to restore your system if the "runtime system files" are infected. Unless I'm missing something here. Any thoughts? --JorgeA
NoelC Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Not to detract from your comments above, Jorge, but some other food for thought, especially given the stated policy that we'll all be "given" a Windows 10 upgrade for free... Who are the customers? We users used to be the customers. But the customers for Win 10 are whom? Advertisers, App Store authors. Not users. This explains SO much... -Noel
vinifera Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) why would in todays era anyone want to use compressed OS ?wouldn't that simply trash your storage device more and more ??? same for question 2 posts above, if they use current system files for recovery, and they get infectedwhat kind of stupid a** recovery then that would be ?? what kind of idiots work at MS anyway ... ??? Edited March 18, 2015 by vinifera
NoelC Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Tablets and phones have limited storage, not because of size but because the manufacturer wants to maximize their profits. I'm a little surprised Microsoft hasn't gotten into the flash manufacturing business. But that takes bright hardware engineers, and Microsoft apparently hasn't got bright anything. Microsoft is clearly no longer interested in whether we can actually use the Windows OS for anything useful. They only want money for facilitating our playing of games, purchased in the App Store. It's all too obvious now. The writing has been on the wall since Windows 8. Optimists amongst us hoped it was temporary insanity, but apparently the greed is just too great, even in the face of overwhelming public opinion, for them to actually follow the company's original charter any longer. I can imagine executives thinking to themselves, "history will show that we were a flexible enough company to adapt to the new economy of frivolity, rather than trying to continue to do serious work and failing". Modern times. Dark times. -Noel
JorgeA Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Here's a new data point that seems to support the idea that the whole purpose is to bring users into the Microsoft Store: Even software pirates will get Windows 10 for free. It’s Oprah: “You’re getting free Windows 10! And you’re getting free Windows 10!” It’s free. For everyone. Including pirates. “We are upgrading all qualified PCs, genuine and non-genuine, to Windows 10,” Microsoft’s Terry Myerson said. They're so eager to turn users into buyers of Metro/Modern/Unviersal crapps that they're willing to forgive and forget OS piracy. --JorgeA
JorgeA Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 why would in todays era anyone want to use compressed OS ?wouldn't that simply trash your storage device more and more ??? same for question 2 posts above, if they use current system files for recovery, and they get infectedwhat kind of stupid a** recovery then that would be ?? what kind of idiots work at MS anyway ... ??? All good questions. The common thread, I suspect, is that Microsoft envisions having everyone on mobile devices with mediocre specs, and people will simply throw out a malfunctioning device instead of trying to fix it. No need anymore to repair the drive or restore the OS, your files are in the cloud and you can just buy a new phone or tablet and get back to your screen swiping. So I would say that Microsoft is taking the position that our questions will soon be irrelevant. --JorgeA
JorgeA Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Windows 10: Microsoft wants the Control Panel gone, will be subsumed by the Settings app Apart from the bad news contained in the headline, here's a critique of the Settings crapp down in the comments section. It's so good, I have to quote it in full: About Control Panel - 1. CP can switch to small icon mode. It is already adaptive, but it is adapting, while allowing manual control for the user too. 2. CP can be re-sized to a minimum height of 243 pixels. So, which is wasting space, again? While, the WinRT Settings app can only be re-sized to a minimum vertical height of 801 pixels. Settings app cannot even adapt to that ridiculously tiny window. The resizing restrictions for WinRT apps are stupid. 3.Search is already possible in CP using the search bar. 4. Sort by clicking on the tabs. For example to sort by date, click on the word "Installed on". Sort is already possible in CP with far more sortable categories than the pithy 3 categories in Settings app. 5. You can also see various details and support website links for each app. Make the bottom bar larger to see more details. I fail to see how settings are more advanced. Seriously some've been ignoring win32 apps for so long that they forgot how to use them. Scary, but true. About nitpicking, nitpicking is done by those who advocate Metro apps which are inferior feature wise and not by those talking about Win32 applications which are evidently superior feature wise. Metro fans here have gone to such extents of sycophancy towards Microsoft that they even show invalid nitpicking screenshots. For example, they make the Win32 CP wider than it needed to be, and not adjusting the sidebars, both of which could be hidden. Also, when they do do this, they include spaces where content will be shown. But Metro Fans can't see the wastage of the screen real estate because they have closed their eyes being sycophantically BLIND towards the screen real estate getting wasted. The question is that why are users being forced to use WinRT apps with splash screens because the Windows Update functionality from Control Panel has been transferred to the Settings app. What in the world they are trying to do with Settings? It is just one big slugish crap. I have feeling I can go and do 10 pushups before something meaningful shows up there. Someone should remind Microsoft that this is 2015 and not 1992. Also, Win32 apps with no delay are of course more sensible than WinRT apps with splash screen startup delay. Therefore, Windows 10 is not worth considering because it introduces delays. I think that the consumers want fast processing i.e. delay cannot be justified because 2 seconds start-up delay makes the experience delayed. Win32 apps are smoother and more powerful. Also, the start-up process of Win32 apps is extremely simpler than WinRT apps.The case with the so-called Universal (Metro Apps) is that they are meant to present content on phone screen, that's their primary purpose but now PC is being treated as a giant phone. It is bul***** I am trying to point out but people don't get it. Windows 10 and Universal Apps are less in every possible way for end user. Why don't we kill splash screens with fire and acid? they're so effin annoying! Because they're required for all Windows Store/Universal apps. Why? Who the f&%k knows, but they're annoying. Splash screens being mandatory for Windows Store/Universal apps is asinine. Another reason I will forever hate WinRT & Store Apps. I know how it works in real world. Things like Win32 Windows Photo viewer open instantly, while WinRT Photos app shows a splash screen for ~2 seconds. It gets VERY annoying after a while. They're slower than win32. When I'm looking at multiple images at the same time and have to see that splash screen every time, it feels more than just start-up time. When was the last time we saw splash screen for basic applications? In Windows 95? There should be no splash screens for applications in 2015, except for powerful applications like Photoshop. OS X has delayed app start-up too. Still Mac users aren't annoyed. That's because Mac users are irrational ultra fan-boys. You could say the same nonsense about the start menu, the task bar, snap, customisability, touchscreen PCs, matte screens, good keyboards, and so on. Just because Apple makes dysfunctional products doesn't mean Microsoft should, too. --JorgeA
jaclaz Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Well, seemingly tomorrow they are going to present a new Lumia:http://lumiaconversations.microsoft.com/2015/03/18/the-lumia-story-continues/ That, according to some interpretations might even be cheaper than the (here in Italy) Lumia 435, sold (in theory) for € 90, but actually obtainable for around € 75, which debuted very recently:http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/mobile-phone/3593950/lumia-435-release-date-price-specs/ jaclaz
JorgeA Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Not to detract from your comments above, Jorge, but some other food for thought, especially given the stated policy that we'll all be "given" a Windows 10 upgrade for free... Who are the customers? We users used to be the customers. But the customers for Win 10 are whom? Advertisers, App Store authors. Not users. This explains SO much... -Noel Yup. And because users will no longer be the main source of Microsoft's OS revenue, the company feels freer to ignore our choices and preferences. As the saying goes, he who pays the piper calls the tune, and starting with Win10 it's no longer us who are paying the piper. --JorgeA
JorgeA Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) I ran across this tidbit while reading a web post on the future of Internet Explorer: At the moment you can't run apps if you have LUA (parent of UAC) disabled, as it's considered a security risk. Power users disable LUA because the limitations imposed by it can be annoying. By disable LUA, the start menu in Windows 10 doesn't work, nor does any app, including the new calculator etc., and most likely Spartan as well.[emphasis added] Hmm... So, if I'm willing to accept the somewhat decreased security that this represents, then I can be completely free of Metro stupidity? Only trouble is, maybe the Settings crapp would stop working too. Gotta try this on my TP. --JorgeA UPDATE: Tried the registry LUA fix. The pseudo-Start Menu doesn't do anything when you click on it (of course you can install a real Start Menu replacement). The Notifications thingy doesn't respond either. But the Settings app still opens and works fine. (As a precaution, I had pinned Settings to the Taskbar since the Start Menu might not work and I on the fly I couldn't think of any other non-Metro way to access Settings.) Edited March 18, 2015 by JorgeA
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