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NoelC

August Windows 8.1 Update Due Out August 12

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When I was pleasantly surprised the other day when I came across this tiny OS that fits on a floppy.

http://www.menuetos.net/

 

 

What I always loved of menuet OS

 

 

In 1985 as chief architect I lead a team that designed and coded an embedded real-time multitasking operating system and management application that watched over Airport Surveillance Radar for 20+ years without a glitch. 

 

The system monitored data on multiple comm lines from radar sites to control towers and switched to backup lines in a heartbeat if there was a problem.  If you flew over the US any time between 1985 and 2005 chances are my little system helped keep you safe by making sure the Air Traffic Controllers could see your blip on their radar screens.

 

It ran more than 20 independent tasks simultaneously and smoothly, had a user interface with a keypad and video screen, and was built to last - S-100 buss in a 50 lb steel chassis.

 

The system AND application all fit in...

 

Wait for it...

 

48 kBytes on an Intel 8085 microprocessor, with 16 kBytes of RAM.

 

I even included a small video game the system testers could use to pass the time while they were awaiting long-term test results (the government required a LOT of testing).  Think "light cycles".

 

-Noel

Edited by NoelC

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Microsoft has backpedaled on part of the update package (thanks to TELVM for pointing it out in another thread, and Jaclaz for expanding).

 

Just for reference:

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2982791

 

I've no .otf fonts installed anywhere but in C:\Fonts but I went ahead and uninstalled KB2982791 and KB2975719 anyway as Microsoft has advised.  The other two, KB2970228, and KB2975331 were apparently never installed here.  This leaves 13 of the August updates still intact.

 

I did verify that the content of the font cache file that Microsoft suggests deleting is now different than before the deletion.

 

My system, which wasn't unstable with all the August updates in, apparently isn't unstable without KB2982791 and KB2975719 either (it's already crunched through a few terabytes of data), so for me personally this is all a bit academic.  However, in the grander sense, it's disturbing that Windows Updates now must be regarded with even greater suspicion.  Perhaps when the next set comes out I should run them for a week or more in a VM before deciding to update my workstation.

 

-Noel

Edited by NoelC

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Who deleted the thread about the august update black screen fails.  Thats bs you guy shouldn't have deleted that thread.

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Who deleted the thread about the august update black screen fails.  Thats bs you guy shouldn't have deleted that thread.

Which thread?

Who are the "you guys"?

jaclaz

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I've read your very detailed and thought out responses such as he one to nuhi that a new 7lites aka 8lites time has passed.  I think both of your questions are a bit ridiculous in light of that.  The august update is causing install fails that require system restore that thread had a link to microsoft support delineating the culprit updates and the font cache fix.

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They may be ridiculous :unsure: at the light of something completely unrelated :w00t:, but still I cannot get WHICH thread you were referring to nor WHO are the guys who deleted that.

Of course you are perfectly free :) to not answer those two questions, and leave all of us wondering what (the heck) you were talking about.

jaclaz

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When you speak to someone smarter than you its best not to play obtuse. I find it so completely lame and pitiful it really doesnt warrant this response or my time.  Obviously the who is the mods who can delete threads and the thread has already been described, but thank you for allowing me to illustrate your inferiority.  You are trying to thread crap my warranted and correct response to the deletion of pertinent information with this microsoft contrived supplanted and inferior microsoft help page which I find completely unhelpful and indecipherable most likely because this has been embarrassing for microsoft and someone here is helping them cover it up, but that wouldnt be you would it?(its ok you can just delete my precise insights and no one else will ever know BUT I AND WE WILL)

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You mean that there was a thread here on MSFN.ORG about that Update crashing and that was deleted by one of our Mods/Admins? :unsure:
I haven't noticed it, that's why I was asking.

But I see that you are not willing to have a normal conversation with me, have fun in your superiority :hello: (though you must be lonely up there :().

 

jaclaz

 

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Windowsbleu.com has reported that Microsoft has removed the August update for now because of various issies. ==>http://www.windowsbleu.com/2014/08/microsoft-has-taken-down-august-update.html

 

~DP :whistle:

Yep, we touched the topic here (these are the references missing in the previous post by NoelC):

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/155290-windows-8-deeper-impressions/?p=1084250

 

jaclaz

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Windowsbleu.com has reported that Microsoft has removed the August update for now because of various issies. ==>http://www.windowsbleu.com/2014/08/microsoft-has-taken-down-august-update.html

 

~DP :whistle:

Yep, we touched the topic here (these are the references missing in the previous post by NoelC):

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/155290-windows-8-deeper-impressions/?p=1084250

 

jaclaz

 

Have now been following the "Deeper Impressions" thread on here but your are correct Jaclaz, Thanks for the Info.

 

~DP :thumbup

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(though it doesn't actually fix any of the Windows 8 design problems; we'll have to wait for Windows 9 for that I guess).

Yep that's usually how it goes with Microsoft operating systems. 7 fixed Vista and now 9 is going to fix 8... hopefully. Edited by ptd163

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How I wish it were true that in every way Microsoft had made 7 better than Vista, but even with Windows 7 it was apparent that Microsoft was moving away from hardcore computing and toward it being a toy.  Thankfully, there have been many tweaks developed for Windows 7 that are still viable with 8 (thinking, for example, of Folder Options X, Classic Shell, ShellFolderFix, etc. that make Explorer and the desktop more useful).

 

Anything that optimizes for fewer things on the screen, the use of larger fonts, and being touch-oriented could be a move in the wrong direction.  Not that there aren't uses for tablets, but that's not what Windows is good at.  It's a bit like trying to bolt stuff on a Corvette to get it to compete in a Monster Truck event.  It's just never going to be a good approach.

 

-Noel

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Anything that optimizes for fewer things on the screen, the use of larger fonts, and being touch-oriented could be a move in the wrong direction.  Not that there aren't uses for tablets, but that's not what Windows is good at.  It's a bit like trying to bolt stuff on a Corvette to get it to compete in a Monster Truck event.  It's just never going to be a good approach.

Right idea :thumbup, wrong example :w00t:, in practice it doesn't seem as bad an idea as in theory ;):

http://www.monsterjam.com/Bios/Trucks/Dragons_Breath/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac4p0km8h6k

 

jaclaz

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That goes a bit beyond "bolt stuff on" I think.  :whistle:

 

-Noel

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