vinifera Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) if you block these 2fbcdn.netwww.gravatar.comforum main page won't display half of user avatarsain't it funny how you guys/gals are interconected with s***ty services ? Edited February 2, 2014 by vinifera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsenellenelvian Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 if you block these 2fbcdn.netwww.gravatar.comforum main page won't display half of user avatarsain't it funny how you guys/gals are interconected with s***ty services ?What like ipb??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buyerninety Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) I think Vini 'shot from the hip without thinking' - actually, pretty muchevery one of those blocked avatars isn't a unique avatar chosen bythose users... it's just the MSFN default user avatar that is shown ifusers haven't chosen something other than the default... yep, theMSFN default avatar is a Gravatar avatar... Edited February 3, 2014 by buyerninety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) facebook avatars are affected too via gravatarat least here Edited February 3, 2014 by vinifera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buyerninety Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 OK, I think I've got a handle on this now...(After looking at how Gravatars work;hxxp://en.gravatar.com/site/implement/images/ ) .Board (in this case IPB, possibly with add-ons) software causes ahash to be done of a piece of user unique information (probably theemail address), sends this info to Gravatar server, who reply with aURL for the gravatar avatar pic to be served from if the hash matchesone held in their database, - if the hash doesn't match then the(Gravatar?) server redirects so the request is served from a defaultURL, and the Board server sends HTML to your browser with URL'sas seen, similar to this;hxxp://www.gravatar.com/avatar/82cc8a5a115a4ffe285b3efd030ccaf9?s=100&d=hxxp%3A%2F%2Fwww.msfn.org%2Fboard%2Fpublic%2Fstyle_images%2Fshift%2Fprofile%2Fdefault_large.pngThe above default location is more easily read as; hxxp://www.msfn.org/board/public/style_images/shift/profile/default_large.pnga 1.93 KB (1,972 bytes) size, 150px × 150px PNG .(When seen on the 'Forums' main page, the default PNG pic is resized to asmaller seen pic.)Incidently, sometimes you may see e.g. i2.wp.com instead of gravatar.comhttp://omegadelta.net/2012/10/15/gravatar-the-type-of-image-you-are-trying-to-process-is-not-allowed/ - so that's a gravatar redirect to a caching service.I'm not sure what effect Ahh, I see - fbcdn.net redirects to facebook.com -I don't see any difference with fbcdn.net blocked because I already havefacebook blocked.(None of this explains what's going on with Member aviv00's photo - Iguess the Board software just can't understand or is suspicious of thelink/info that aviv00 input into the avatar section.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) fbcdn.net seems to be profile exchange/tracking site/server/dataI also considered blocking akamaihd.net, as seems many blogs and tardish sites like facebook/twitter use this toothen again both MS and Apple use its services for some type of movie streaming (this is from wiki)dunno should I block it or not ... Edited February 3, 2014 by vinifera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (None of this explains what's going on with Member aviv00's photo - Iguess the Board software just can't understand or is suspicious of thelink/info that aviv00 input into the avatar section.)Aviv00 doesn't have an avatar. His condition is not unique of IPBs that have been through migrations. Some users who have a default or "no avatar", after some upgrade levels the original "blank" resource (or whatever) no longer exists and results in it displaying strange. But, this display issue is browser specific. In Mozilla browsers it puts a box around the username and sometimes a post title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buyerninety Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) I'm aware of the seldom seen condition you are referring to, (I believeonly encountered with certain ~2007 and earlier Board members) -the sections normally displaying Country, OS and Member Title infosimply do not exist for certain members (apparently these sectionsdid not exist or existed in a different format or were never previouslypopulated since earlier IPB versions, and later version updates havenot created or populated these sections [with the default entries] forcertain earlier members). An example is member $ Dolla-Bill $http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/50552-giving-up-props-to-yal/#entry351659I don't recall any instance of any member not having an avatar section -I believe the Board software always tries to display something in everymembers avatar section.(I've encountered a few other instances where the display of a membersavatar is, er, faulty.)Regarding aviv00's avatar, I should have instead described hisavatar as 'lost'. The underlaying link for his avatar appears to be;hxxp://www.msfn.org/board/uploads/profile/photo-133794.gifwhich returns a 404: Not Found .Presumably, whatever he uploaded into the database in the past hassince gone to 'Digital Heaven'. He is obviously not fussed about it,although you are right that it causes a 'strange' display on the (e,g,Forums) webpage - (I.E. deals with it more gracefully, by simplydisplaying a red 'x' where his avatar ought to be).Cheers Edited February 4, 2014 by buyerninety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 There is no red x in Mozilla browsers. Here is an example of when a similar thing happened with Ponch's avatar:Ponch no longer has this problem with his avatar and it shows up as the gray man for me now, but aviv00 (among others) has always shown up looking strange.Although, it could be caused by my particular security setup, since I have seen screenshots from other users which do not show this type of display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 No. I'm seeing it all *exactly* as you described. I'm on just released Firefox ESR 24.3.0, right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buyerninety Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Tripredacus said; "There is no red x in Mozilla browsers."There certainly isn't, not surprizing as I said "I.E. deals with it moregracefully, by simply displaying a red 'x' where his avatar ought to be."(For myself, the I.E. tested with was I.E. 8.0.6001.18702 .)Tripredacus said;..."but aviv00 (among others) has always shown up looking strange.Although, it could be caused by my particular security setup,"...Well, no: - I'd suggest aviv00's avatar displays as it does due to thereason I put forward - the Board software can't find it.The link I gave appears to be in the correct format the Board uses -so the data (GIF) is no longer retrievable.. ( ...mmm, I should allowwe could theorize other possible causes - the Board requires thatavatars are to be a maximum of 100x100 pixels, 100Kb, non-animated,etc., maybe certain of those requirements have changed over theyears[?] so an avatar which previously met past requirementsconceivably now doesn't meet current ones[?] and the Board softwarerefuses to serve the data[?] .)You appear to keep a record of past MSFN webpages saved in acomplete format, all pics, css, etc. . Are these merely 'fault' webpages,or do you have access to an offline older copy of the database?(This seems possible, I recall Xper posted an offhand remark severalyears ago about the size of the database [i can't remember the exactsize, but it was around the 600-700MB range], so perhaps recent sizecould fit on a DVD?) - I will understand if you prefer not to reply to thisparticular question... Edited February 5, 2014 by buyerninety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 You appear to keep a record of past MSFN webpages saved in acomplete format, all pics, css, etc. . Are these merely 'fault' webpages,or do you have access to an offline older copy of the database?(This seems possible, I recall Xper posted an offhand remark severalyears ago about the size of the database [i can't remember the exactsize, but it was around the 600-700MB range], so perhaps recent sizecould fit on a DVD?) - I will understand if you prefer not to reply to thisparticular question...No I do not keep a record like you say. I had taken a screenshot of the issue and it is still on the image host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Image display dimensions are not explicitly set in the html, but in style sheets:<img itemprop="image" src="http://www.msfn.org/board/uploads/profile/photo-301491.png?_r=1382667300" class="ipsUserPhoto ipsUserPhoto_large">If the style sheets are blocked or user-modified, or content from some domains is blocked, Firefox could be defaulting to collapsing the missing or blocked images.Note: I'm not seeing this problem in FF2.0.0.20 even with ABP enabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 For me, the problem occurs on FF ESR 24.3.0 (regardless of having NoScript enabled or fully disabled), but not at all on IE8, nor on Opera 12.16... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buyerninety Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 @jumper @ dencorsoWhich problem are you referring to, the OP's original post, or aviv00's avatar,(or something else?), as these different problems have different causes andeffects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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