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So I am not going to brag about how I got them. Which do you think I should make my main computer.

Which one is better in terms of proccessor???

AMD 2Ghz XP proccessor with a board. Inside a case.

The board has

1. one i/o for a game controller. The

2. on oldschool i/o plug for a mouse or anything that used them. Like a controller from 1990.

3. four USB and two in the front ( however the one in front might be able to go into the other board.

4. built in Etheral card

5. Two seperate i/o for keyboardsmouse.

6. Three slots for memory

7. One AGP slot ( don't know the generation )

8. Two PCI slots

9. Printer slot

10. has that one little slot ( don't know that is for )

11. Built in Video slot ( for monitor )

12. Built in sound card.

Celeron 2Ghz proccessor, big fan on the chip.

The board has

1. one i/o for a game controller. The

2. two oldschool i/o plugs for a mouse or anything that used them. Like a controller from 1990.

3. two USB

4. built in Etheral card

5. Two seperate i/o for keyboardsmouse.

6. Three slots for memory

7. One AGP slot ( don't know the generation )

8. Three PCI slots

9. Printer slot

10. has that one little slot ( don't know that is for )

12. Built in sound card.

Currently I am using a 700Mhz Celeron computer.

1. Three slots

2. Two USB in back

3. One usb in front,

4. One game port in front

blah blah blah

I going to give the case to the Celeron version. However I am reading the Celeron is less juice then the AMD?


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In theory, AMD will seemingly outperform the Celeron any day. P4 and AMD might be a closer race, but the AMD will still come out on top.

Use the AMD rig. I've found systems like that. Picked up a Dell Dimension E510 about 2 weeks ago, and I'm on the verge of selling it with some upgrades from parts I have lying around.

Unless you're going to use them, get them to a working state and do one of two things with them:

1) Donate them to a good cause, you benefit because this is a tax writeoff (donation being key word).

2) Sell it locally, for cheap to someone who could use a computer. If you don't need it, but someone else does, why keep it?

I'm donating a VIA C3 based computer to a local gym, they're going to use it for streaming music, but i'm never going to use it again, and it would be wasteful to think it would get recycled anywhere effectively, as it was built before the ROHS standard was introduced into any electronics at all.

The only true method to recycle a computer is to pass it along to the next generation to use, and hope they understand the same.

I have tons of spare parts i've been trying to sell, but buyers are limited because everyone wants the latest and greatest.

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Betting the AMD board has a Via chipset.

The "old school connectors" are the COM ports.

Both will require (since there's no mention of integrated video) an AGP video card inserted in the AGP slot (probably AGP 4x variety).

"Little slot" is probably AMR or CNR (useless).

I vote the AMD also (if keeping). Get a Video Card (AGP 1x/2x/4x; read up on the difference on how the slots are built), plug in a dependable power supply, a keyboard, a stick of PC2100 (DDR-type), and a Monitor and file the bad boys up and observer the BIOS-id then search on what the MoBo is. Also, check exactly what the CPU's are (writing on the top/bottom).

Go here - http://www.crucial.com/kb/answer.aspx?qid=4003 for which type you may need (depending on the CPU, divide the speed designated and match to CPU).

AMD Athlon XP-2400+ / 453 pins / 2000MHz (133x15.0) / (64-bit dual-pumped bus)

1.6v or 1.65v (Two varieties - Thoroughbred and Thornton)

Please note that the designation is higher than actual CPY speed.

Celeron-2.0G / 478 pins / 2000MHz (100x20) / (64-bit quad-pumped bus) 1.475v or 1.5v or 1.525v

Look here (some info on quad-pumped) -

http://www.ocforums.com/archive/index.php/t-292286.html

So... it might need RDRAM (dunno).

Any markings on the boards to identify them?

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I'd vote for the Athlon Xp - though I'd dislike a Via chipset.

Seen a 1.8GHz Celeron4 run, it's nothing impressive! A 1.4GHz PIII Tualatin is more efficient and silent.

As for Agp, you need the notch to be right or left on both the mobo and the video card. Notice many mobos and video cards accept both standards.

Find the exact reference of the mobo and then its manual, that's the big trick. Then, either the Celeron or the Athlon will be quite acceptable with W2k-Xp and excellent with WinMe.

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Well I have decided to go stick with the AMD. I just popped in my Win98 HD and the thing installed all the devices. However. The BIOS seems to very strick, and even considers the USB port a drive bay. Since the previous OS ( XP ) had some kind of pasword, that uses the USB in conjunction with a passkey. I was trying to put three HD's in and I have and had to mess with the settings in order for them to appear right. The last thing I need is a malfunctioning HD. However I am tempted to get a TB drive and divide it.

I also scored me a Navida 4800 ( I forget the name at the moment ), that I used to run some 3d games and a Sound Blaster Live 5.0. However I need to mess with the Dma settings of programs, since some DOS programs can't read it.

Been browsing the forums to slove that problem.

Right now I am installing as many last generation programs, to play around with my Win98 high on 2Ghz. This thing is hypo-er fast. I mean, on my 699mhz machine it was great but man oh man, it is like another level.

I have not yet checked out the Board, however it is probably Via since it looks the same as the rest.

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If you have it up-and-running, look for Everest Home Edition (HE) v2.2. It will list everything about your PC. Aida32 (v3.9x) would also probably work (I believe it was the pre-Everest software, of which the above version is the last Free edition).

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I have not yet checked out the Board, however it is probably Via since it looks the same as the rest.
yes it's VIA as it has 3 memory sloth like others already said. If you could give us the text that is placed on the motherboard like brand and model number than we could help you a bit with the right drivers for video and sound, but the VIA all-in-one drivers work on all VIA boards for general chipset functions ;).
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Aida was free but ignores recent hardware. Everest is its successor, partially free.

I don't like Everest so much especially for this job, because it only reads the hardware names in the registry instead of asking the hardware itself for its reference and comparing with a knowledge base. Then, if Win ignores a hardware or already got the wrong driver, Everest displays it wrongly. TO make it short, Everest displays the name of the current driver, not of the hardware.

Some that do it properly, because they come with the huge required database, are SIV and PCI.EXE.

Formerly there http://siv.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/downloads/siv.zip

and still here http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0802

I could still find Siw which isn't too bad

http://www3.sympatico.ca/gtopala/siw_download.html (the one I used)

http://www.gtopala.com/ (new address and version)

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I havent had that with everest, it was fine for telling me what my hardware was when I didn't have a driver installed, this usually happened on 9x

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