I can't open USB flash

[RYU81]

I can't do anything,my friend give it me to see what happen.i can't make normal format (say protected)or low format (say alot of error).I try also Password utility for usb flash is don't work.

more info:

http://www.dane-elec.fr/scripts/home/publi...EN&SYNC=YES

P.S:I have win xp sp2

[jaclaz]

Check this thread:

http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=15776

and this one:

http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1659

Maybe that stick uses a controller for which a "Manufacturer Tool" or "Recovery Utility" has been found.

Anyway, do post Vid/Pid you find.

jaclaz

[RYU81]

Name: USB Flash Memory (USB2.0)

Logic Driver: M:\

VID&PID: Vid_0930&Pid_6533

Speed: high speed

VendorID:

ProductID: USB Flash Memory

Product Revision: 6.00

Vendor Description:

Product Description: USB Flash Memory

Serial Number: 09915B4060E39B3C

there some links doesn't work from two links you posted.

Edited March 12, 2008 by RYU81

[Ponch]

There was a special action in a shop not far this week, €4.99 for a 1Gig stick. (They were all gone in a few hours.) Irrelevant but just to say you haven't lost much money if that is of some interrest.

[RYU81]

@jaclaz:any news ?

[jaclaz]

@RYU81

It seems like a PNY technologies one.

There is a tool here:

http://www2.pny.com/support/support_landin...?SectionID=1057

Low Level Format Utility

http://www2.pny.com/support/media//Files%5...Pre-test_v1.zip

that you may want to try.

@Ponch

Hmmm, most of the actions of humans, and expecially of "geeks" are futile, meaningless, and non-productive, I am sure that both RYU81 and myself are not driven by greed for money, even at a "full" price, a 1Gb stick should be around 15$ /10 Euros, so that they are becoming more and more like floppies, ince they do not work anymore it is more economical to throw them away and buy a new one, but the satisfaction of re-using "Track 0 defective" floppies or recovering (hopefully ) a USB stick given as dead, is priceless!

jaclaz

[RYU81]

Low Level Format Utility not work for me,give error:

Preformat only support IC 1006/1026,2031,2035,2044,2045,2153 and 2154

Edited March 15, 2008 by RYU81

[jaclaz]

Hmmm, is it possible that it is a "fake" drive?

From the kind of error you get three possibilities:

1) the chip is really completely and utterly "dead"

2) the Vid/Pid is somehow wrong, Vid_0930&Pid_6533 is that of a PNY Attachè, reported both on the 911CD thread and here:

http://www.biline.ca/xbox_flash_list.htm

3) the format utility is not good for the particular chip you have

The only other option you have is that to "throw" ath the damned little thing ANY low-format utility you can find, but you have a very low probability of success and you risk (believe me, been there done that ) to clutter your system with unneeded/potentially problematic services and filter drivers.

If you want to go ahead with this, let me know, I may be able to give you some links to other utilities....

jaclaz

[puntoMX]

2) the Vid/Pid is somehow wrong, ...

Most common indeed, the "controller" chip inside the device got messed up. It must be possible to write info to it again but if it was that easy there would be loads of fake USB-sticks all over the place. I’ve tried it with some 1GB Kingston sticks but never got it working. They show a 2TB device with start-sector -1, figure that out .

[RYU81]

2) the Vid/Pid is somehow wrong, Vid_0930&Pid_6533 is that of a PNY Attachè, reported both on the 911CD thread and here:

http://www.biline.ca/xbox_flash_list.htm

I have Dane-Elec zMate Pen USB2.0 Nacre 512MB not PNY Attache.

http://www.drobe.co.uk/riscos/artifact1477.html

The only other option you have is that to "throw" ath the damned little thing ANY low-format utility you can find, but you have a very low probability of success and you risk (believe me, been there done that newwink.gif ) to clutter your system with unneeded/potentially problematic services and filter drivers.

If you want to go ahead with this, let me know, I may be able to give you some links to other utilities....

why not give links,this flash usb for my frined not by me,I used before HDD Low Level Format Tool but no luck.

Edited March 15, 2008 by RYU81

[jaclaz]

@RYU81

Yes, I am sure that you do have a "Dane-Elec zMate Pen USB2.0 Nacre" thingy , point is that there are a limited number of factories actually making the controller chips and only a few more that actually assemble USB sticks.

Each manufacturer should "mark" his own code on each device they produce, but this code (the Vid or Vendor id) is linked to the actual Vendor, not to the real manufacturer, so there are THREE cases:

1) the Vid is that of the manufacturer of the chip (all of them have their Vid)

2) the Vid is that of the assembler (some of them have their Vid)

3) the Vid is that of the vendor (few of them have their Vid)

Exactly the SAME stick (internally) can arrive to the final user with three different Vid's (and with three different external encasing, this is why it's difficult to say which is which.

Generally speaking the Pid (Product id) is set to a code that represents the chip used, but not always.

Dane-elec seems to be a "final" vendor, so it is well possible that uses a Vid in common with other manufacturersm euther that of the chip manufacturer or that of the assembler.

The Vid of 0930 appears to be connected to Toshiba.

The Pid of 6533 does not seem to be referred to anything (or at least I cannot find any info)

The Memorex Traveldrive seems to have the same Vid/Pid too:

http://listing.driveragent.com/usb/0930/6533

(and it's Win98 driver uses the same pu20sysd.sys as the PNY drives)

Sandisk (which uses it's own Vid) appears to use for some sticks Toshiba controllers as well , you may try this tool:

http://www.sandisk.com/Oem/DesignSupportTools/

http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Des...b-test-tool.exe

but I doubt it will work as most probably it has encoded it's own Vid of 0781.

A good source for links to "low-level" formatters is this forum:

http://www.everythingusb.com/forums/

This is an example:

http://www.everythingusb.com/forums/showth...;threadid=10901

jaclaz

[RYU81]

Sandisk (which uses it's own Vid) appears to use for some sticks Toshiba controllers as well , you may try this tool:

http://www.sandisk.com/Oem/DesignSupportTools/

http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Des...b-test-tool.exe

but I doubt it will work as most probably it has encoded it's own Vid of 0781.

no,is not working.it show me like this.

and thanks for forum.I'll try it than I'll tell you.thanks for try for help me.

Edited March 16, 2008 by RYU81

[RYU81]

i5127-PDV1.08B3 show me different VID&PID.

VID&PID:1043:8012

that could be help me?

[RYU81]

I open it and written:

Toshiba X50645

TAIWAN 04369AD

[jaclaz]

I open it and written:

Toshiba X50645

TAIWAN 04369AD

Can you post a picture of it?

I seem to find NO reference whatsoever to those two numbers.

jaclaz