jcarle Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) The "average" user is always gonna have an available port to be used. In an informal poll amongst 100+ laptop users I couldn't find anyone that even remembered the last time they used the RJ11 port and more than half (because of wireless) never use the the RJ 45 port. Different Strokes for Different Folks.It's not the point of whether it's in use or if it's ever used. The point is that the port was never designed for that kind of use and/or abuse. Edited January 31, 2008 by jcarle
Ponch Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 I value the integrity of my data ports over the integrity of the power supply/connection anyday.This is an view very few will share. A dead laptop is... a dead laptop.
Headjerk Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 The "average" user is always gonna have an available port to be used. In an informal poll amongst 100+ laptop users I couldn't find anyone that even remembered the last time they used the RJ11 port and more than half (because of wireless) never use the the RJ 45 port. Different Strokes for Different Folks.It's not the point of whether it's in use or if it's ever used. The point is that the port was never designed for that kind of use and/or abuse.I'm not sure what type of "abuse" you are talking about???
Tarun Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Absorbing any form of shock or any other form of blunt/rough trauma is what I would believe it means.
Headjerk Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Absorbing any form of shock or any other form of blunt/rough trauma is what I would believe it means.I figure that just about anytime you pick up a laptop and forget that it has a USB or Modem or network wire connected to it you might subject it to the type of "trauma" you're talking about. I've checked with dozens and dozens of techs and repair guys and they tell me that they never see damage to those three ports. . . .It's always to the (poorly designed) power connector. YMMV!
Tarun Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Not sure which techs you're talking to but I've frequently seen USB ports that have been damaged, firewire ports, even headphone jacks and other ports on notebooks.
jcarle Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Absorbing any form of shock or any other form of blunt/rough trauma is what I would believe it means.I figure that just about anytime you pick up a laptop and forget that it has a USB or Modem or network wire connected to it you might subject it to the type of "trauma" you're talking about. I've checked with dozens and dozens of techs and repair guys and they tell me that they never see damage to those three ports. . . .It's always to the (poorly designed) power connector. YMMV!Considering a mouse, a usb drive, or anything else usually attached to a laptop is a hell of a lot lighter then a typical laptop power pack. Using data ports for cable retention doesn't make any sense. It makes about as much sense as using your CD slot of your car's radio to attach a extra cup holder.
Headjerk Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Not sure which techs you're talking to but I've frequently seen USB ports that have been damaged, firewire ports, even headphone jacks and other ports on notebooks.Mostly corporate guys but also some independent laptop specialists. . . .Most frequently damaged "part" is the screen.
Headjerk Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Absorbing any form of shock or any other form of blunt/rough trauma is what I would believe it means.I figure that just about anytime you pick up a laptop and forget that it has a USB or Modem or network wire connected to it you might subject it to the type of "trauma" you're talking about. I've checked with dozens and dozens of techs and repair guys and they tell me that they never see damage to those three ports. . . .It's always to the (poorly designed) power connector. YMMV!Considering a mouse, a usb drive, or anything else usually attached to a laptop is a hell of a lot lighter then a typical laptop power pack. Using data ports for cable retention doesn't make any sense. It makes about as much sense as using your CD slot of your car's radio to attach a extra cup holder.I think your comparing apples to oranges. . . . An external drive attached via USB or Firewire is pretty heavy...at least as heavy if not heavier than a power brick. Like I mentioned earlier in this thread. . . .In testing we lost ZERO data ports in a year plus worth of testing including dumb guys like me carrying around a Fujitsu and a Sony by the power cord (strung between two JerkStoppers). I think those (data) ports are stronger than a lot of people give them credit for. Certainly stronger than the sh1t attaching points for the power jack.
Nerwin Posted February 2, 2008 Posted February 2, 2008 whats the point if it will break right off the usb port or what ever, if someone would trip over it and pull the whole laptop off it prolly would break the whole thing, i would rather have a broken power plug that could get fix than buying a whole new laptop. but thats just me Dont yell me I just got yelled enough as it was today
Headjerk Posted February 2, 2008 Posted February 2, 2008 whats the point if it will break right off the usb port or what ever, if someone would trip over it and pull the whole laptop off it prolly would break the whole thing, i would rather have a broken power plug that could get fix than buying a whole new laptop. but thats just me Dont yell me I just got yelled enough as it was today Not yelling. . . . .But we've never seen a broken USB or RJ11 or RJ45 using the JerkStopper. . . . .I guess it could happen but I suspect that would be the least of the damage if you hit it or threw it hard enough to actually break the port. In testing we yanked a couple of different (dead or dying) systems off a table and desk without damaging the data ports. The actual design (of the RJ series) includes a cavity where the normal electrical contacts would be to preclude any damage to these components.
nmX.Memnoch Posted February 2, 2008 Posted February 2, 2008 I've definitely seen more than one broken RJ45. We use laptops in our training/conference room. The cables are run down the middle of the table so there's absolutely no way anyone could trip over them. Don't ask me how it happened, but we currently have two or three laptops with broken RJ45 ports.I'm with jcarle, you should use the security port. Or a design that would attach to the security cable if the security port was in use. ALL modern laptops have that port.
Headjerk Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 I've definitely seen more than one broken RJ45. We use laptops in our training/conference room. The cables are run down the middle of the table so there's absolutely no way anyone could trip over them. Don't ask me how it happened, but we currently have two or three laptops with broken RJ45 ports.I'm with jcarle, you should use the security port. Or a design that would attach to the security cable if the security port was in use. ALL modern laptops have that port.Coming soon. . . .
Headjerk Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 Short Update. . . .The cable lock version prototypes (for when a cable locks is in use) have been built and are out being field tested currently. The JerkStopper version for use directly with the "Kensington Port" have been designed and prototypes are scheduled to be built. Film at eleven as they say!
PC_LOAD_LETTER Posted March 7, 2008 Author Posted March 7, 2008 similiar gadget:http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/06/magstay...sing-abilities/
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