Winamp 5.5 Drops Win9x

[eidenk]

www.jrmediacenter.com

[BenoitRen]

Windows Media Player--

Last 95-compatible version: 7.0 (although 6.4 is the last version I'd consider usable.)

Using the installer from version 7.0 you can get version 7.1 to install, which will work fine. Details

Media Player Classic--

Last 95-compatible version: ? (It claims to be compatible with Windows 95, but it prompts a kernel32.dll error on my system.)

I never got it to work either, and I tried many versions. Most of the versions don't even show an error, they silently quit.

[Andrew T.]

Windows Media Player--

Last 95-compatible version: 7.0 (although 6.4 is the last version I'd consider usable.)

Using the installer from version 7.0 you can get version 7.1 to install, which will work fine. Details

Ah, yes: I've seen that procedure before, although I've never tried it out.

What are the differences between Media Player 7.0 and 7.1 that would warrant upgrading, other than that one is rigged not to install on 95 and NT4 while the other isn't?

[xrayer]

I still use old good & small 2.95 - the latest of 2.xx line I could find.

[RJARRRPCGP]

I never got it to work either, and I tried many versions. Most of the versions don't even show an error, they silently quit.

I never saw this "silently quit" problem with Windows 9x, unless it's a game that runs in full screen mode, DirectX games are notorious for this, no error message to tell what went wrong!

The "silently quit" problem usually is seen under Windows 2000 and Windows XP only, apparently, Windows 2000 and Window XP sometimes terminates the application without an error message. Apparently, it's because of a DrWatson bug in Windows 2000 and Windows XP.

[galahs]

MPlayer still couldn't match the performance of WMP9 for videos

I was able to get WMP9 to install on Win98 First Edition by changing my registry setting.

I was also able to get it to install and run on Win95 (though it was modified a little) using the same technique, though I didn't test it thoroughly.

I have found a way of installing Media Player 9 onto systems using the first edition of Windows 98.

Have installed a zip utility such as WinZip

http://www.winzip.com

Download Microsoft Media Player 9 for Windows 98SE/ME/2000

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia

Create a new folder on you desktop by right clicking on a blank area of the desktop and selecting, New, Folder

Name the new folder

wmp9

Right click on the downloaded file

MPSetup.exe

Select, WinZip, Extract To...

Choose the folder you created earlier by left clicking on it once

wmp9

you created earlier by left clicking on it once. Then click on the Extract button. Wait while the files are copied to the wmp9 folder. Then click on Windows Start button. Select Run. Type,

regedit

Double click on the following folders in the correct order;

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

Software

Microsoft

Windows

CurrentVersion

In the right section in the Name column, double click on the following names and change their data value to:

ProductName Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition

Version Windows 98SE

VersionNumber 4.10.2222

Hit OK after changing each value. Close Regedit.

Open the folder wmp9 and double click on wm_setup.exe to begin installation.

Follow the prompts to install Media Player 9 onto your system.

[no1none]

I didn't even knew winamp 5.x did work on 9x LOL, thx for info.

Winamp 2.95 user here.

Past version 2.95 (last in 2.x series) it became horrible bloatware with crap no one needs, same as most other players.

WMP6.4 is still my main player for most of the files though (thanks to yet another gem from sourceforge - ffdshow codec), but I use winamp for playing mp3 files over my home network (it works best for this purpose).

I don't even touch crap like realmedia etc, I value my ears and eyes more than any 'best video' there may be in those crappy formats. MP3s are already crappy enough to my ears.

[galahs]

Can someone fill me in on the whole ffdshow codec.

I have heard a lot about it, but never really understood what it does or its benefits?

[eidenk]

Can someone fill me in on the whole ffdshow codec.

I have heard a lot about it, but never really understood what it does or its benefits?

That is the one that appears to work properly on 9x currently :

http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/

It provides support for many audio and video multimedia codecs in Windows Media Player or any of its clones. Loads of options plus filters, etc.. A must.

Able to decode the following video formats for example :

H264, X264, VSSH (incomplete), DAVC, PAVC, AVC1

XVID, XVIX

DIVX, DX50, BLZ0, DXGM

MP4V, 3IVX, 3IV1, 3IV2, MP4S, M4S2, RMP4, DM4V, WV1F

DIV3, DIV4, DIV5, DIV6, AP41, COL1, DVX3, MPG3

ffdshow and ffvfw internal FOURCCs

MP43

MP42, DIV2

MP41, MPG4, DIV1

H263, L263, M263, U263, X263, S263 (in 3gp files)

Flash Video (FLV1)

Theora Video (THEO)

VP3 Video (VP31)

VP5 Video (VP50)

VP6 Video (VP60, VP61, VP62)

VP6F Video (VP6F, FLV4)

MPEG1 codec

MPEG2 codec

MPEG, MPG1, MPG2, 1001, 1002

EM2V, MMES

Windows Media Video 7 (WMV1)

Windows Media Video 8 (WMV2)

Windows Media Video 9 Simple & Main Profiles (WMV3)

Windows Media Video 9 Advanced Profile (WVC1)

Windows Media Video 9 Image (WMVP, WVP2)

Windows Screen Codecs (MSS1, MSS2)

H261, M261

Huffyuv codec for libavcodec (HFYU, FFVH)

MJPG, LJPG (lossless)

AVRN, MJPA

Sorenson Video (SVQ1)

Sorenson Video (SVQ3)

Quicktime Planar RGB Video (8BPS)

Quicktime Animation Video (QTRLE)

Quicktime Video Video (QRPZA)

FFV1 codec for libavcodec (FFV1)

dvsd, DVSD, dv25, DV25, dv50, DV50

CDVC, CDV5, DVIS, PDVC

CamStudio Video (CSCD)

CorePNG (PNG1, MPNG)

LOCO Video (LOCO)

LCL LossLess Codec Library (MSZH)

TechSmith Camtasia (TSCC)

ZLIB LossLess Codec Library (ZLIB)

Zip Motion Blocks Video (ZMBV)

Autodesc RLE (AASC)

ASUS V1/V2 (ASV1, ASV2)

ATI (VCR1)

Cinepak (CVID)

Chinese AVS video (AVS1-P2, JiZhun profile)

Creative YUV Video (CYUV)

Intel Indeo 2 (RT21)

Intel Indeo 3 (IV31, IV32)

Fraps v0, v1, v2 & v4 (FPS1)

Miro VideoXL (VIXL)

MS Video-1 (CRAM)

MS RLE Video (MRLE)

Q-Team (QPEG, Q1.0, Q1.1)

Real Video (RV10, RV20, incomplete)

Doesn't support 24-bit compression.

IBM Ultimotion Video (ULTI)

Winnov WNV1 Video (WNV1)

experimental

AVIS (AviSynth AVI files)

Edited October 13, 2007 by eidenk

[galahs]

Thanks for that link I will give it a go.

[galahs]

Wooo hooo!

Combining ffdshow and Media Player Classic I can now run wmv videos smoothly

The fact ffdshow does mp4, DivX, H264 & XVID is unreal!

Media Player Classic + Real Time Alternative + Quick Time Alternative + ffdshow = Ultimate Media Player for Win9x

[rainyd]

Galahs, I'm using this combination (MPC+ffdshow) for years and hardly can imagine my PC without it.

With ffdshow you don't need any codec packs.

Btw, this is page of newer MPC on SourceForge: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=205650

[galahs]

MPC + ffdshow has finally opened my eyes to what everyone was raving about.

As a bonus, it is bloody efficient at decoding movies too even on my ageing PII 333Mhz

[BenoitRen]

Combining ffdshow and Media Player Classic I can now run wmv videos smoothly

You mean you were using the official WMV codecs, and that didn't run smoothly? If so, I definitely need to check out ffdshow.

[galahs]

Yeah I was using the official wmv9 codec in Media Player Classic 6.4.9.1 and they didn't run smoothly.

But the same video ran smoothly in Windows Media Player 9

I have the ffdshow filter running just for MPC and now it can run all wmv videos I have as good or better than WMP9