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morland

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Hi,

Background:

My laptop has a SATA harddisk and I am already trying to find a solution to somehow make a slipstreamed XP SP2 CD which will contain the drivers for the SATA harddisk. At the moment, when I boot with my XP CD, I end up getting a window with a message saying that no internal harddisk was found (something like this).

Request:

Once I have solved the above mentioned task, my next task will be to make a bootable/rescue CD of Norton Ghost 9.0 which will also be able to recognize the SATA disk. I have not checked yet but I think my current rescue disk of Norton Ghost 9.0 will also not recognize the SATA harddisk and thus the backup image that I would have created would be of no use...

Can someone kindly guide/help me regarding how can I using the "Slipstream using nLite concept" and make a bootable rescue CD of Norton Ghost 9.0 which will be able to recognize the SATA harddisk.

I hope my post is clear :unsure:

I'll be very grateful for your kind help.

Thanks.


IcemanND

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Either get a newer version of Ghost, or you can use the 32-bit version of Ghost and run it from a PE environment, WinPE or BartPE. Windows PE 2 may already support your SATA controller. BartPE you'll have to add it yourself.

morland

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Either get a newer version of Ghost, or you can use the 32-bit version of Ghost and run it from a PE environment, WinPE or BartPE. Windows PE 2 may already support your SATA controller. BartPE you'll have to add it yourself.

Hi Iceman,

Thanks for the reply. I think there is a version 12 or something of Norton Ghost out there. You think that will detect the SATA harddisk? or should I consider Acronis' version ???

I am not that much of a techie and therefore please ber with my silly questions belows:

  1. Can you please explain what you mean by "or you can use the 32-bit version of Ghost and run it from a PE environment". What do you mean by running it from a PE environment? "PE" ???? Don't know what you mean by "PE"
  2. What is Windows PE2 and BartPE ? :no::}:wacko:

Sorry if my questions are really silly.

I hope you'll reply.

IcemanND

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check nu2.nu for BartPE, the Windows AIK for Windows PE 2.0. PE is a windows environment run from a CD. so you would run Ghost32.exe instead of Ghost which is for DOS or 16-bit environment. Check the Windows PE forum here for more information.

morland

morland

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Thanks Iceman. I'll do some reading on the Windows PE forum to "catch up" ;) BTW, is this Windows PE something like a "portable version" of WIndows XP - just like there are so many portable applications available now which do not require any installation and can be run by executing a single file??

Ponch

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I have not checked yet but I think my current rescue disk of Norton Ghost 9.0 will also not recognize the SATA harddisk

Symantec says they do include some SATA drivers. I'd check that first.

+BartPE runs from a bootable CD (it sort of is the OS), "portable" applications still need an OS to run (some might also run under BartPE).

IcemanND

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Windows PE is portable. though no all applications will run since it is a limited windows environment.

Not sure that I ever actually used version 9 of Ghost but I know that 10 and 11 have some SATA support. Though Ghosting from a 32-bit environment is faster than through a 16-bit environment.

morland

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Windows PE is portable. though no all applications will run since it is a limited windows environment.

Not sure that I ever actually used version 9 of Ghost but I know that 10 and 11 have some SATA support. Though Ghosting from a 32-bit environment is faster than through a 16-bit environment.

Hi,

You'll probably go :realmad: after some more silly questions from me :unsure:

Can you please explain what you mean by "Though Ghosting from a 32-bit environment is faster than through a 16-bit environment" Are you recommending a particular version of Norton Ghost or are you comparing some O/S with some other O/S :confused:

Thanks for putting up with me ;) ... Will appreciate your reply.

IcemanND

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32-bit environment = windows Ghost32.exe

16-bit environment = dos ghost.exe

Two different apps one for each OS.

In my experience when ghosting a machine it takes significantly longer from a dos environment using Ghost than it does from a Windows environment using Ghost32. I've used every version of Ghost since 4 to the current 11 and with the excption of the first release of Ghost 32 between 7 and 8 it has always seemed to go faster.

Oleg_II

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32-bit environment = windows Ghost32.exe
Should be faster. Adding your SATA/RAID drivers can be made through boot image editing (for example, use UltraISO make image of your Ghost v9 CD disk and then add mass storage drivers to the image).
16-bit environment = dos ghost.exe
May be slower. But works perfect on SATA drives without adding any additional drivers. Just use command line switches (read the manual) ;)

For example, use this in your AUTOEXEC.BAT:

GHOST.EXE -noide

morland

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Please post detailed configuration of Your PC.

Maybe I can help You ;)

Hi jkey,

Please promise that you are not joking and that you can really help me here :)

On a serious note, it's just that I am mentally exhausted and had it not been due to help from various folks on the www, I would have totally given up :(

Anyways....

Is the model # good enough or do you want me to dump the results of some utility and copy/paste those? Till your reply below is some information. The bulky part is what I got as a result of running dxdiag command and then saving the results to a text file. I have simply assumed that certain portions might be relevant and am only posting those. Please let me know if you prefer that I use some specific utility and post the results from that.

BTW, for such occasions, which utility would you recommend that would extract a summary of the core system components?

Laptop is SONY VAIO VGN-FZ140E and below are selective portions from the "dxdiag" command:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/27/2007, 20:37:18
	   Machine name: Morland
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
		   Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Sony Corporation
	   System Model: VGN-FZ140E
			   BIOS: Ver 1.00PARTTBL
		  Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU	 T7100  @ 1.80GHz (2 CPUs)
			 Memory: 2038MB RAM
		  Page File: 507MB used, 3422MB available
		Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
	DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
	 DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

....

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Display Devices
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		Card name: Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family
	 Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
		Chip type: Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family
		 DAC type: Internal
...

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Sound Devices
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			Description: SigmaTel Audio
			Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_7662&SUBSYS_104D2300&REV_1002
		Manufacturer ID: 1
			 Product ID: 100
				   Type: WDM
			Driver Name: sthda.sys
		 Driver Version: 5.10.5067.0000 (English)
	  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
			WHQL Logo'd: Yes
		  Date and Size: 5/26/2006 09:59:12, 1177032 bytes
			Other Files: 
		Driver Provider: SigmaTel
...

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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	  Drive: C:
 Free Space: 84.3 GB
Total Space: 90.2 GB
File System: NTFS
	  Model: TOSHIBA MK2035GSS

	  Drive: D:
 Free Space: 77.2 GB
Total Space: 90.2 GB
File System: NTFS
	  Model: TOSHIBA MK2035GSS

	  Drive: E:
	  Model: SONY DVD RW AW-G540A
	 Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:59:54, 49536 bytes

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System Devices
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	 Name: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_4229&SUBSYS_11008086&REV_61\4&227633DA&0&00E2
   Driver: n/a

	 Name: Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A03&SUBSYS_9005104D&REV_0C\3&B1BFB68&0&11
   Driver: n/a


	 Name: Mobile Intel(R) PM965/GM965/GL960 Express Processor to DRAM Controller - 2A00 
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A00&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_0C\3&B1BFB68&0&00
   Driver: n/a

	 Name: Intel(R) ICH8M Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 2850
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2850&SUBSYS_9005104D&REV_03\3&B1BFB68&0&F9
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 13:51:52, 3328 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:59:42, 25088 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:59:44, 95360 bytes

...

	 Name: Intel(R) 82801HEM/HBM SATA AHCI Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2829&SUBSYS_9005104D&REV_03\3&B1BFB68&0&FA
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\iaStor.sys, 7.06.0000.1011 (English), 7/12/2007 16:35:02, 305176 bytes

	 Name: Intel(R) ICH8M LPC Interface Controller - 2815
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2815&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_03\3&B1BFB68&0&F8
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\isapnp.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 13:58:02, 35840 bytes

	 Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 2448
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2448&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_F3\3&B1BFB68&0&F0
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:07:48, 68224 bytes

	 Name: Marvell Yukon 88E8036 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_11AB&DEV_4351&SUBSYS_9005104D&REV_16\4&139D1158&0&00E4
   Driver: n/a

	 Name: Texas Instruments PCIxx12 Integrated FlashMedia Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_803B&SUBSYS_9005104D&REV_00\4&3B3A03B5&0&1AF0
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\tifm21.sys, 2.00.0000.0004 (English), 11/30/2005 10:12:00, 162560 bytes

	 Name: Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_803A&SUBSYS_9005104D&REV_00\4&3B3A03B5&0&19F0
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:10:10, 61056 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:10:08, 53248 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:05:44, 61824 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\arp1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:05:44, 60800 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 18:46:40, 6400 bytes

	 Name: Texas Instruments PCIxx12 Cardbus Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_8039&SUBSYS_9005104D&REV_00\4&3B3A03B5&0&18F0
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pcmcia.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:07:48, 119936 bytes

Eagerly looking forward to your reply and a solution.

Thanks.

P.S

Thanks Iceman and Oleg for your replies :)

Legolash2o

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I always use "Acronis True Image Home" which works on my SATA without any drivers n can make a backup directly on a HDD or DVD to save space. Works on x64 too :D

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killerb255

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I've used WinPE 2.0 (which is actually a portable Windows Vista, not XP, by the way) and Ghost 8.0's "ghost32.exe" on multiple systems. It works like a champ!

Best case scenario: the PE disc will detect your SATA drivers and you're good to go.

Worst case scenario: you'll have to add them while building your PE image. After you do so and burn it to a CD, the disc will detect your SATA drivers.

morland

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Hi lego and killer and everyone,

Guys I am really getting more & more confused :wacko: . If someone has a solution, can you just share the url from where I can download the desired slipstreamed ISO :angel:whistle:

BTW,

1) Would Acronis Disk Director Suite v10.0.2160 be equally effective or is 'Acronis True Image Home' a better/newer version :unsure:

2) Sorry but I am just not getting a hang of this PE Thing

Thanks.

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