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Short notes about a3: These registry entries will correct the problem with showing up updates in Windows Update, please correct Wuinfo.inf accordingly: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{dfb341b5-0389-4479-8b5b-6a55d363240f}] @="Windows Millennium Edition Q273017 Update" "Version"="4.90.3000.0" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{8d84e56e-fbac-4e09-af5e-6cde8294b998}] "Version"="4.90.3000.0" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{f502aef4-a754-4c82-9f12-a5149f71ea89}] "Version"="4.90.3000.0" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{e6efec7d-797a-45ee-8eb4-afdb90c0d644}] "Version"="4.90.3000.0" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{8e877e70-0313-4578-852e-4b2687a9917e}] @="Windows Millennium Edition Q323172 Update" "Version"="4.90.3000.0" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{A0C51F80-12E9-4434-A7DB-8EAD52104135}] "Version"="4.90.3000.0" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{5cc28b05-024f-4194-aa40-9aaca85e93b3}] "Version"="4.90.3000.0" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{96ff9e49-fb06-487a-8387-1104b13ac161}] @="Windows Millennium Edition Q329115 Update" "Version"="4.90.3000.0" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{C5973BFE-8891-4c24-903E-3907A15AC223}] "Version"="4.90.3000.0" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{bddca085-1928-4215-aa65-c6af5eee8ef6}] @="Windows Millennium Edition Q812709 Update" "Version"="4.90.3000.0" The main problem is that sometimes the version is "4.90.3000.0" and not "4.90.0.3000" Minor problem is misspelling the word "Millennium" - it has double n. Also in license screen should be corrected. As erpdude already noted, WDMAUD.SYS is missing. For unknown reason files 1394bus.sys and vmm.vxd are not found for the first time. One update is missing completely - Q293818, crlupd.exe. It is not needed if IE60SP1 is installed (i.e. for WinME with original IE5.5 or with IE5.5SP2). Q888113 update will show up always for WinME with original IE5.5, no known workaround. It shows up even if I use Windows Update only (no mesp202). Some files are not copied to various folders although original fixes copy them. For example: C:\WINDOWS\INF\QFE\273017\DELAY2.REG C:\WINDOWS\INF\QFE\273017\DELAY4.REG C:\WINDOWS\INF\QFE\273017\DELAY8.REG C:\WINDOWS\INF\QFE\273017\NODELAY.REG C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\HHCTRLUI.DLL C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\DUNZIP32.DLL C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\DZIP32.DLL C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\ZIPFLDR.DLL C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\INSTALL\DUNZIP32.DLL C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\INSTALL\DZIP32.DLL C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\INSTALL\ZIPFLDR.DLL C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\INSTALL\HH.EXE C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\INSTALL\HHCTRL.OCX C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\INSTALL\HHCTRLUI.DLL C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\INSTALL\HHSETUP.DLL C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\INSTALL\ITIRCL.DLL C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\INSTALL\ITSS.DLL and maybe more. getver %winbootdir%\system\SHDOCVW.DLL | find /i "5.5">NUL if not errorlevel 1 %winbootdir%\VERINST.EXE q279328>NUL is not good because it adds q279328 update infor even for IE 5.5SP2. I would change it to: getver %winbootdir%\system\SHDOCVW.DLL | find /i "5.50.4134">NUL if not errorlevel 1 %winbootdir%\VERINST.EXE q279328>NUL getver %winbootdir%\system\SHDOCVW.DLL | find /i "5.50.4611">NUL if not errorlevel 1 %winbootdir%\VERINST.EXE q279328>NUL I'm not sure if this file is replaced immediately or after the reboot so this will handle both scenarios. It could be useful to detect if stmgr.exe was really killed by e.g. ps utility. I'm not very familiar with System Restore feature, it looks like even when it is switched off, is is still on??? Does anybody know what does mean the following registry keys? [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VxDMon] "SystemFileProtection"="N" "SystemRestore"="N" "FirstRun"="N" It seems that even this setting does not prevent stmgr.exe from running and replacing the files back?? Is it good idea to install Auupd.exe ? This: setup.ini, progman.groups,, "Desktop="%49758%"" setup.ini, Desktop,, """Windows Movie Maker"", """"""progra~1\Moviem~1\moviemk.exe"""""",,,,,,""This application allows you to record, organize, edit and share Windows Media on your computer, via e-mail or the Internet."seems to create wrong %49758% entry in the Start menu. DWORD registry entries with value 1 can be wrote as 0x10001,1 it os not necessary to use longer notation like: 0x10001,01,00,00,00 0x00010001,1 also killbits can be written as 0x10001,1024 or 0x10001,0x400 (just for uniformity) I repeat that I never used WinME so these observation are not complete or accurate. Petr
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And what about patch for WMF vulnerability, e.g. http://www.nod32.ch/en/download/tools.php ? According to MS06-001, Microsoft will not release the patch because this is not critical security issue: Although Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, and Windows Millennium Edition do contain the affected component, the vulnerability is not critical because an exploitable attack vector has not been identified that would yield a Critical severity rating for these versions. Petr
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What is the difference between 98 and ME causing that many files from NT4 version of 835732 fix can be used with Windows 98 (SE) and not with ME? Petr
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I'd use RegShot or InstallWatch to see what has changed after installing these updates. (and of course, all changes are visible in INF files too) Where is the problem? Best Regards,
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Version I have is part of Nero 6.6.0.18. I'm sorry for confusing you. Does show your version on WinMe any OS patch installed? Petr
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Hi Fiodor, version 6.21.1001 does not support 955X and ICH7R as well. Intel INF utility supports 915G/P/GV/GM/PM/GMS/910GML chipsets only, and then older 8xx chipsets. Petr
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This is interesting because I see no Win98SE support for 955X chipset (with ICH7R southbridge) in INF utility 6.3.0.1007. Have you modified the inf files? What IDE/SATA driver do you use? Regarding Win98SE support of PCI-E version of GeForce6600, version 77.72 is the latest that supports PCI-E version of GeForce6600 or any newer (81.98) version can be used as well? I have Gigabyte GA-8I955X Pro motherboard with the same chipset and PCI-E GeForce 6200 and I even not tried to install Windows 98 SE because of no support for 955X, ICH7R, PCI-E GF6200, ALC882... It would be interesting to know that it is possible. Petr
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best/fastest hardware platform that supports 98SE
Petr replied to krick's topic in Windows 9x Member Projects
I tried to check VIA website and it seems there are (were) three parts: VT8237 (obsolete): http://web.archive.org/web/20041016054147/...hbridge/vt8237/ VT8237R: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/chipsets...hbridge/vt8237/ VT8237A: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/chipsets...bridge/vt8237a/ All of them support RAID 0, RAID 1, and RAID 0+1. The specification for VT8237 and VT8237R seems to be exactly the same, i.e. VT8237R looks like renamed VT8237. It's not easy to find the difference between A and R version, I tried to compare the page with specs and just the description of audio differs: VT8237R: VIA Vinyl integrated 5.1 surround sound » AC '97 audio » VIA Six-TRAC codec VIA Vinyl Gold onboard 7.1 surround sound » 24/96 resolution audio » VIA Envy24PT + Six-TRAC + additional DAC VIA Stylus Audio Drivers » Integrated Sensaura technology » Full 3D gaming support VT8237A: VIA Vinyl™ Multichannel Audio Suite VIA Vinyl HD Audio VIA Vinyl AC'97 Audio integrated 6 surround sound VIA Vinyle Gold Audio onboard 8 surround sound » 24/96 resolution audio » VIA Envy24PT + VIA Eight-TRAC Codec + additional DAC I'm not sure if there is any real difference or just the description differs. The comparison chart at http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/chipsets...on_c-series.jsp show just VT8237A and VT8237R Plus - with no visible difference. http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=2166&s=1 Petr -
One new function in Nero Infotool 3.0 and newer is a list of installed OS patches. For Windows 98 SE it looks like this: Installed OS Patches -------------------- (Q241134) USB driver update : No (Q265314) Error Message 'No Valid Drive/Disc Found' Playing Audio CD After Using Data CD-ROM : No (Q274370) Error Message on a Blue Screen When You Try to Play Digital CD Audio : No (Q240075) USB Devices may not work : No (Q241134) USB Enumeration Problems : No (Q253697) USB Enumeration Problems with OpenHCI Controller on Fast Computers : No (Q243174) MS Digital Video May Lose IEEE 1394 Device Audio : No (Q252958) High Bandwith patch installed : No (Q239694) Large Writes to Removable Media May Result in Data Loss : No (Q242937) Windows Driver Model Audio Update : No (Q242975) FireWire Support patch installed : No (Q252183) 1394 Host Controller Driver Does Not Retry Busy Devices Properly : No (Q284837) 1394 Audio/Video Control Device Stops Working Unexpectedly : No (Q290831) SRB_FUNCTION_SHUTDOWN Requests Not Sent to SCSI Miniports During Shutdown : No (Q284837) 1394 Audio/Video Control Device Stops Working Unexpectedly : No At first I supposed that it is some registry related problem that there is "No" for all patches. So I traced what Nero Infotool does and the result is that it looks for updates file, but on wrong places. For expample in non-existing folder C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DRIVERS insteda of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS etc. So none updated files are found. I have reported this to Ahead but no repsonse from them. This is just inform you that "No" for all patches is not problem in SE SP 2.1. Petr
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best/fastest hardware platform that supports 98SE
Petr replied to krick's topic in Windows 9x Member Projects
It's really interesting that this board does not have the following warning: This model DOES NOT support Win9X / ME due to some chipset vendors has stopped providing Win9X / ME drivers. as other boards from this family have. What is apparently missing for Windows 98: NVIDIA IDE / SATA driver for nForce3 series NVIDIA Firewall for nForce3 series GIGABYTE EasyTune5 Nvidia website shows the following driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_win9x_4.27.html containing: ions * Audio driver 4.42 * Audio utilities 4.44 * Ethernet driver 4.33 * GART driver 3.77 (WHQL) * Memory controller driver 3.38 (WHQL) * SMBus driver 4.04 (WHQL) * Installer 4.45 If you compare the list with the list for Windows 2K/XP driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce3_winxp_5.11 : # Audio driver version 4.42 (WHQL) # Audio utility version 4.44 # Win2K ethernet driver version 4.16 (WHQL) # WinXP ethernet driver version 4.16 (WHQL) # Ethernet NRM driver version 4.82 (WHQL) # Network management tools version 4.88 # GART driver version 4.36 (WHQL) # Memory controller driver version 3.38 (WHQL) # SMBus driver version 4.04 (WHQL) # Installer version 4.46 # IDE driver version 4.46 (WHQL) you will see what is not in Windows 98/Me driver: # Ethernet NRM driver version 4.82 (WHQL) # Network management tools version 4.88 # IDE driver version 4.46 (WHQL) Apparently there is no special Windows 98 SE driver for SATA/IDE controller. It has to be tested if standard ESDI_506.PDR can be used or just compatibility mode. Or maybe GA-K8NS Ultra-939 could be used - it contains Silicon Image sil3512 controller that seems to have Windows 98 driver. I have no personal experience with these boards. Petr -
According to table 3.1 in Release Notes (v81.98) page 44 this adapter is not supported by Windows 98/ME driver. Petr
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It seems that they are still available: http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloads/ But there is one difference - many Windows 98 (SE) updates are available via Windows Update ONLY so either Windows Update has to survive or new system of static pages has to be prepared. I have checked also some Windows 3.1 updates but the download links are broken - e.g. here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/85557 Web Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://suppor...le/wfwy2kup.asp shows the last existence of the download page in February 2004. And surprisingly just the download page disappeared, the update itself: http://download.microsoft.com/download/wfw...US/WFWY2KUP.EXE not. Regardless on the availability in the future it is good idea to download everything and keep it for possible future (re)installations. Petr
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No, it is not. Please write shorter posts with more information. You repeat again and again that cumulative updates are not cumulative but you never gave me any example although I have asked for it. The latest cumulative update for IE 6.0 SP1 on Windows 98 SE (IE6.0sp1-KB905915-Windows-98-ME-x86-ENU.exe) contains the following files, the first version number is for GDR version of the file and the second is for QFE version of the file, the update contains both. BROWSEUI.DLL 6.0.2800.1692 6.0.2800.1692 CDFVIEW.DLL 6.0.2800.1612 6.0.2800.1612 DANIM.DLL 6.3.1.148 6.3.1.148 DXTRANS.DLL 6.3.2800.1525 6.3.2800.1526 IEPEERS.DLL 6.0.2800.1496 6.0.2800.1497 INSENG.DLL 6.0.2800.1469 6.0.2800.1475 MSHTML.DLL 6.0.2800.1528 6.0.2800.1529 MSRATING.DLL 6.0.2800.1623 6.0.2800.1623 MSTIME.DLL 6.0.2800.1525 6.0.2800.1526 PNGFILT.DLL 6.0.2800.1505 6.0.2800.1506 SHDOCVW.DLL 6.0.2800.1762 6.0.2800.1762 SHLWAPI.DLL 6.0.2800.1740 6.0.2800.1740 URLMON.DLL 6.0.2800.1525 6.0.2800.1526 WININET.DLL 6.0.2800.1525 6.0.2800.1526 Is there any file missing or old version? I don't see any. Of course, there are some other updates related more or less to IE some way: KB837009 - Cumulative Update for Outlook Express 6.0 SP1 DIRECTDB.DLL 6.0.2800.1123 INETCOMM.DLL 6.0.2800.1409 INETRES.DLL 6.0.2800.1123 MSIDENT.DLL 6.0.2800.1123 MSIMN.EXE 6.0.2800.1123 MSOE.DLL 6.0.2800.1409 MSOEACCT.DLL 6.0.2800.1123 MSOERES.DLL 6.0.2800.1123 MSOERT2.DLL 6.0.2800.1123 OEIMPORT.DLL 6.0.2800.1123 OEMIG50.EXE 6.0.2800.1123 OEMIGLIB.DLL 6.0.2800.1123 WAB.EXE 6.0.2800.1123 WAB32.DLL 6.0.2800.1409 WABFIND.DLL 6.0.2800.1123 WABIMP.DLL 6.0.2800.1123 WABMIG.EXE 6.0.2800.1123 Q313829 - Windows Shell Update SHELL32.DLL 4.72.3812.600 KB816093 - Microsoft VM Update JVIEW.EXE 5.0.3810.0 MSJAVA.DLL 5.0.3810.0 and many other files KB823559 - HTML Converter Update html32.cnv 2003.1100.5426.0 msconv97.dll 2003.1100.5426.0 KB833989 - Vector Graphics Rendering (VML) VGX.DLL 6.0.2800.1411 KB841873 - Task Scheduler Update (IE 6.0 SP1 on NT4 SP6a only) MSTASK.DLL 4.71.1979.1 KB885258 - Update to correct AlphaImageLoader filter error DXTMSFT.DLL 6.3.2800.1471 DXTRANS.DLL 6.3.2800.1471 PROCTEXE.OCX 6.3.2800.1471 KB888113 - Hyperlink Library Update hlink.dll 5.2.3790.227 KB891781 - DHTML editing component ActiveX control Update DHTMLED.OCX 6.1.0.9231 KB896358 - HTML Help 1.41 Update hh.exe 5.2.3790.309 hhctrl.ocx 5.2.3790.309 hhsetup.dll 5.2.3790.309 itircl.dll 5.2.3790.309 itss.dll 5.2.3790.309 Missed I anything important? Petr
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AFAIK it was true for older IE versions, not for IE6 The above mentioned command line downloads all cabinets with exception of: DirectAnimation AXA.CAB AXA3.CAB Arabic/Hebrew/Japanese/Korean/Pan-European/Thai/Vietnamese/Chinese (Simplified)/Chinese (Traditional) Text Support IELPKAR.CAB IELPKIW.CAB IELPKJA.CAB IELPKKO.CAB IELPKPE.CAB IELPKTH.CAB IELPKVI.CAB IELPKZHC.CAB IELPKZHT.CAB Japan/Korean/Chinese (Simplified)/Chinese (Traditional) Text Input Support JAAIME.CAB KOAIME.CAB SCAIME.CAB TCAIME.CAB Uniscribe USP10.CAB Windows Desktop Update for NT4 IE4SHLNT.CAB Internet Explorer Administration Kit IEAK6.EXE IEAK6OPT.CAB In the attachment is complete list of files. IE6SP1 does not contain MS VM (Java), the cabinets for build 3805 are for download here: http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownlo...AA289DAC0FA.CAB http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownlo...7F715960D22.CAB Update to build 3810 http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownlo...2a04af2b34d.exe Petr dl.txt
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If you us the command described several posts before (ie6setup.exe /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E") you will have no choice to select any feature - just all files necessary for later installation will be downloaded. It shall be noted that the current IE 6.0 SP1 available on the MS website is stripped down version, some components are no longer parts of the setup, like Microsoft VM, Direct Animation, Uniscribe, etc. Petr
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Maybe yes, maybe no. Even at present many updates adversised by WU are missing on the WU server - just try to download all W98 updates from WU catalog and you will see long list of updates that were not possible to download. Many downloads were cancelled by Microsoft already. IE 5.5 SP2 for example seems to be still available at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=en but in fact for other platforms than Windows Me it is available in Slovak and Slovenian only because there is no IE6 for those languages. Microsoft has achieved this limitation just by removing the first files from the download server (IE_S1.CAB, Iew2k_1.cab, Ient_s1.cab), all other files remained untouched. Also some older patches are no longer available for download although the download pages still exist: Try to download the following updates for IE 5.0: http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/iebuil.../en/jsredir.htm http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/iebuil...n/servredir.htm Updates for IE4.01SP2 or for IE5.01 are still available, but for IE 5.0 (part of Windows 98 SE) not. Nobody at Microsoft will repair these broken links. So I'd very careful in thoughts what will be available from Microsoft and what not. Petr
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What do you mean by "extra usb support"? USB is supported since Windows 95 OSR2. Petr
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ie6wzd.exe is inside the ie6setup.exe file, it is OK. What means "it doesn't work"? What is the error message? Just to be sure that everything is correct. Please download the ie6setup.exe file from this location: http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie6...US/ie6setup.exe to any folder, switch to this folder and type: ie6setup.exe /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E" The "Accept license should appear", then you have to enter the folder where the installation files should be downloaded, "C:\WINDOWS\Windows Update Setup Files" is the default, then you have to select the type of the system, for Windows 98 the size of all files is 19.3 MB, if you want to download installation files for all platforms, it will be about 46 MB. Then you press next, and after short delay the download will begin. If I remember correctly, all files in the destination folder will be erased prior the download. Petr
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This command line will download all necessary components, so next time ie6setup will use the already downloaded files and will not try to connect to the Internet. Yes, there will be files like IE_S1.CAB, IE_S2.CAB, IE_S3.CAB and many others. You can choose if you want to download files for Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows NT 4 or Windows 2000 or all of them. I don't know what you have in the folder you have mentioned but it is possible that it already contains all necessary files - just try it. Petr
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OK, so then you will just run the command "ie6setup.exe" /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E" All items needed for installation are then downloaded to the folder you will choose. Then you can install IE just by running ie6setup locally, it will use the downloaded files and will need no connection to the Internet. Petr
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These files are stored where you downloaded them :-) Updates that are available via Windows Update only can be downloaded by using Windows Update Catalog Full Internet Explorer 6.0 SP1 can be downloaded (you can choose the platform(s)) by the following command: "ie6setup.exe" /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E" (you have to download ie6setup.exe at first) Is this all you need? Anything unclear? Petr
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I believe that that update isn't included because there aren't Fp4autl.dll and Fp4awec.dll in the cabinet files of SP. OK, KB892211 is included - but not all files. SE SP 2.1a contains the following files from KB892211: Msdaipp.dll 11.0.6715.15 (Microsoft Data Access Component Internet Publishing Provider) Msdapml.dll 11.0.5510.0 (SharePoint Portal Server executable) SE SP 2.1a does not contain the following files from KB892211: Fp4autl.dll 4.0.2.7523 (Microsoft FrontPage Utility DLL) Fp4awec.dll 4.0.2.4715 (Microsoft FrontPage Client Library) Fpext.msg Msonsext.dll 11.0.6715.15 (Microsoft Web Folders) Nsextint.dll 11.0.5510.0 (SharePoint Portal Server) Pkmws.dll 11.0.5510.0 (SharePoint Portal Server Windows API Stub Library) Windows 98 SE contains the following versions: Msdaipp.dll 8.102.1403.0 (Microsoft Data Access Component Internet Publishing Provider) Msdapml.dll 8.102.1403.0 (Microsoft OLE DB Provider for Internet Publishing) Fp4autl.dll 4.0.2.2619 Fp4awec.dll 4.0.2.2611 Fpext.msg is present Msonsext.dll 9.0.2612 (Microsoft Office Name Space Extension) Nsextint.dll is not present Pkmws.dll is not present I'm not sure now why just part of KB892211 update was included in the SESP. Petr
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Why do you think that it is not included? It is here since sesp20rc1 published on February 2nd 2005. Petr
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Win98SE being phased out by MS I would think. Isn't it the same for the IE updates ? But DirectX 9.0c Redistributable (October 2005) for Software Developers - Multilingual has in the list of supported operating systems: Windows 2000; Windows 2000 Advanced Server; Windows 2000 Professional Edition ; Windows 2000 Server; Windows 2000 Service Pack 2; Windows 2000 Service Pack 3; Windows 2000 Service Pack 4; Windows 98; Windows 98 Second Edition; Windows ME; Windows Server 2003; Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1; Windows Server 2003, Datacenter x64 Edition; Windows Server 2003, Enterprise x64 Edition; Windows Server 2003, Standard x64 Edition; Windows Small Business Server 2003 ; Windows XP; Windows XP 64-bit; Windows XP Home Edition ; Windows XP Home Edition N; Windows XP Media Center Edition; Windows XP Professional Edition ; Windows XP Professional N; Windows XP Service Pack 1; Windows XP Service Pack 2; Windows XP Starter Edition; Windows XP Tablet PC Edition If you compare the list with the list for dec05 version, you will see that: Windows 98; Windows 98 Second Edition; were deleted and Windows XP Embedded; Windows XP Embedded Service Pack 1; Windows XP Embedded Service Pack 2; were added. I don't think that anything changed in Windows 98 support between October and December 2005. Petr
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According to Microsoft webpage this version of DirectX is not for Windows 98 (SE). Does anybody know why? Petr