Nice find, lpf. This is similar to what I was proposing, passing the download url to a php script as a get parameter. "Neanderthal" (sorry, didn't realize cavemen, er, hominids were so touchy.) Go club some chick over the head and drag her back to your cave by her hair, that always makes you feel better! If you are referring to the link in MY sig, then no. I wish I was talented enough to write dabo. This project is created in Python by former Foxpro guru Ed Leafe. I learned a lot about Foxpro from him, but because MS is trying to kill it the foxpro community is moving on. I think I am doing well when I can figure out how to USE Ed's code. this is My Site. Dont laugh, it is work in progress and I am no graphics artist. The freeware page and submission form are PHP/MySQL scripts. I am most proud of getting fixed menu frame to work in IE using CSS. Curse IE and its crappy CSS implementation, I only hope they can do better with IE7. I am out of town till thursday. Read the tutes and if you still need help at end of week feel free to post or PM.