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I use uMatrix to block third-party fonts, including emojis. I don't think it blocks them as well as MyPal / New Moon / FF-based font settings though.

I already disable web-gl and wasm out of the gate. Disabling WebRTC requires adding an extension which I don't install prior to public upload. UA-hints is a new one, I'll have to look into that one, thanks. Also not familiar with "no first run" flag, will look into that also, another thanks.

Basilisk First Run connections (July 3rd download, I don't download every week), no pages visited, no extensions installed, just extracted and launched for the very first time and these are all of the connections it made (with my hosts file re-enabled) -- I see a TON of "crap" in this list and frankly trust 360Chrome over and above Basilisk if we are to go by "first run connections". Let's keep it all in perspective, I don't think I've seen any "reports" to Roytam about these "connections". TcpLogView -- Event Time Event Type Local Address Remote Address Remote Host Name Local Port Remote Port Process ID Process Name Process Path Process User Remote IP Country 7/20/2021 5:14:18 PM Open 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 localhost 1026 1025 1612 basilisk.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210703-e29e57e-uxp-72d0b8670-xpmod\basilisk\basilisk.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator 7/20/2021 5:14:18 PM Open 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 localhost 1025 1026 1612 basilisk.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210703-e29e57e-uxp-72d0b8670-xpmod\basilisk\basilisk.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator 7/20/2021 5:14:30 PM Open 10.0.2.15 40.89.244.232 1028 443 1612 basilisk.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210703-e29e57e-uxp-72d0b8670-xpmod\basilisk\basilisk.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator 7/20/2021 5:14:30 PM Open 10.0.2.15 104.22.12.159 1027 80 1612 basilisk.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210703-e29e57e-uxp-72d0b8670-xpmod\basilisk\basilisk.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator 7/20/2021 5:15:04 PM Close 10.0.2.15 40.89.244.232 1028 443 1612 basilisk.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210703-e29e57e-uxp-72d0b8670-xpmod\basilisk\basilisk.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator 7/20/2021 5:15:29 PM Open 10.0.2.15 72.21.91.29 1031 80 1612 basilisk.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210703-e29e57e-uxp-72d0b8670-xpmod\basilisk\basilisk.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator 7/20/2021 5:15:29 PM Open 10.0.2.15 35.244.181.201 201.181.244.35.bc.googleusercontent.com 1030 443 1612 basilisk.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210703-e29e57e-uxp-72d0b8670-xpmod\basilisk\basilisk.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator 7/20/2021 5:15:29 PM Open 10.0.2.15 184.26.42.74 a184-26-42-74.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com 1032 80 1612 basilisk.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210703-e29e57e-uxp-72d0b8670-xpmod\basilisk\basilisk.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator 7/20/2021 5:17:25 PM Close 10.0.2.15 104.22.12.159 1027 80 1612 basilisk.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210703-e29e57e-uxp-72d0b8670-xpmod\basilisk\basilisk.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator 7/20/2021 5:17:26 PM Close 10.0.2.15 72.21.91.29 1031 80 1612 basilisk.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210703-e29e57e-uxp-72d0b8670-xpmod\basilisk\basilisk.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator 7/20/2021 5:17:26 PM Close 10.0.2.15 184.26.42.74 a184-26-42-74.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com 1032 80 1612 basilisk.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210703-e29e57e-uxp-72d0b8670-xpmod\basilisk\basilisk.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator 7/20/2021 5:18:31 PM Close 10.0.2.15 35.244.181.201 201.181.244.35.bc.googleusercontent.com 1030 443 1612 basilisk.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210703-e29e57e-uxp-72d0b8670-xpmod\basilisk\basilisk.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator 7/20/2021 5:20:59 PM Open 10.0.2.15 104.21.48.45 1033 443 1612 basilisk.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210703-e29e57e-uxp-72d0b8670-xpmod\basilisk\basilisk.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator

ps1 - no hosts file for above logs, fully updated Win XP x86 SP3 (by fully updated, I *exclude* "pos" updates). ps2 - a "gstatic" connection for FIRST RUN ONLY is normal and to be expected on Chrome/Chromium-based browsers. Can it be nixed? Not really sure, to be honest, it doesn't "overly" concern me as a first-run ONLY connection. From what I have read on it, it's more of an ATTEMPT for Google to somehow track Market Share but that the method is flawed and useless, but my readings on it are extremely limited. But enough so that at least for now, that one-time first-run-only connection is "harmless". So what if Google has "data" that an open source WebKit v86 engine was installed at such-and-such IP Address *seventy times* since September 2020.

For starters, I had to edit Preferences to open an empty page on startup - never been a big fan of the browser opening ANYTHING on startup. Launched for First Run, closed, launched a 2nd time, closed, launched a 3rd time, copied logs below. TcpLogView -- Event Time Event Type Local Address Remote Address Remote Host Name Local Port Remote Port Process ID Process Name Process Path Process User Remote IP Country 7/20/2021 4:39:07 PM Open 10.0.2.15 142.250.191.131 ord38s29-in-f3.1e100.net 1064 443 1480 360chrome.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\360ChromePortable v11\Chrome\Application\360chrome.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator 7/20/2021 4:39:25 PM Close 10.0.2.15 142.250.191.131 ord38s29-in-f3.1e100.net 1064 443 1480 360chrome.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\360ChromePortable v11\Chrome\Application\360chrome.exe WINXPPRO\Administrator NetworkTrafficView -- Ethernet Type IP Protocol Source Address Destination Address Source Port Destination Port Service Name Status Packets Count Total Packets Size Total Data Size Data Speed Maximum Data Speed Average Packet Size Maximum Packet Size First Packet Time Last Packet Time Duration Latency Process ID Process Filename TCP Ack TCP Push TCP Reset TCP Syn TCP Fin TCP SACK SACK Permitted Maximum Segment Size TCP Window Size TCP Window Scale TTL Source Country Destination Country IPv4 UDP 10.0.2.15 239.255.255.250 1063 1900 4 820 708 205.0 205 7/20/2021 4:39:07 PM 7/20/2021 4:39:09 PM 00:00:02.347 1480 360chrome.exe 0 0 0 0 0 1 IPv4 ICMP 10.0.2.2 10.0.2.15 12 672 432 56.0 56 7/20/2021 4:39:07 PM 7/20/2021 4:39:53 PM 00:00:46.355 0 0 0 0 0 255 IPv4 UDP 10.0.2.15 208.67.220.220 50913 53 domain 1 61 33 61.0 61 7/20/2021 4:39:07 PM 7/20/2021 4:39:07 PM 00:00:00.000 1480 360chrome.exe 0 0 0 0 0 128 IPv4 UDP 208.67.220.220 10.0.2.15 53 50913 domain 1 77 49 77.0 77 7/20/2021 4:39:07 PM 7/20/2021 4:39:07 PM 00:00:00.000 1480 360chrome.exe 0 0 0 0 0 64 IPv4 UDP 10.0.2.15 208.67.220.220 55622 53 domain 1 74 46 74.0 74 7/20/2021 4:39:07 PM 7/20/2021 4:39:07 PM 00:00:00.000 248 TcpLogView.exe 0 0 0 0 0 128 IPv4 UDP 208.67.220.220 10.0.2.15 53 55622 domain 1 112 84 112.0 112 7/20/2021 4:39:08 PM 7/20/2021 4:39:08 PM 00:00:00.000 248 TcpLogView.exe 0 0 0 0 0 64 IPv4 UDP 10.0.2.15 239.255.255.250 1065 1900 4 820 708 0.2 KiB/Sec 205.0 205 7/20/2021 4:39:35 PM 7/20/2021 4:39:39 PM 00:00:03.155 1400 360chrome.exe 0 0 0 0 0 1 IPv4 UDP 10.0.2.15 239.255.255.250 1066 1900 4 820 708 0.2 KiB/Sec 205.0 205 7/20/2021 4:39:50 PM 7/20/2021 4:39:53 PM 00:00:03.499 540 360chrome.exe 0 0 0 0 0 1 DNSQuerySniffer -- Host Name Port Number Query ID Request Type Request Time Response Time Duration Response Code Records Count A CNAME AAAA NS MX SOA PTR SRV TEXT Source Address Destination Address IP Country www.gstatic.com 50913 3263 A 7/20/2021 4:39:07 PM.709 7/20/2021 4:39:07 PM.733 23 ms Ok 1 142.250.191.131 10.0.2.15 208.67.220.220 131.191.250.142.in-addr.arpa 55622 8502 PTR 7/20/2021 4:39:07 PM.968 7/20/2021 4:39:08 PM.007 39 ms Ok 1 ord38s29-in-f3.1e100.net 10.0.2.15 208.67.220.220 Not familiar with Wireshark and don't see a way to copy and paste and don't really have the time to learn it at the moment. Pastes above aren't formatted very well, but taking screencaps, uploading to Dropbox, then embedding a shared link on the forum just takes too d@mn long at the moment.

Will report back this evening. A source for WireShark versions (including .paf portables) -- https://2.na.dl.wireshark.org/win32/all-versions/

I personally have not tried 11 yet. In order of personal preference, others may have a different order -- XP x64 Professional XP x86 Professional Win 7 Enterprise x86 Win 10 LTSB x86 Win 10 LTSB x64 But if you ask 50 different people, you are likely to get 50 different answers.

BINGO !!!... Aside from that, I'll stay out of this one, lol.

I've never been into games. The closeset I ever got into the gaming craze was when the local Dairy Queen had a tabletop Ms. Pac-Man.

It does get tricky. Most people's reasoning and logical analysis is based on what is called "linear thinking". ie, they don't think and reason in terms of integrals and differentials (ie, calculus), they think in terms of a "line", whether that line is linear or curved, monomial or polynomial, it is still a "line". It gets even worse when most people think that they can "multi-task" when in reality, at the cerebral cortex level, our brain simply does not multi-task - period. Training your left and right hand to perform tasks in different planes (ie, patting head and rubbing belly) is nowhere near the true definition of "multi-tasking". Having 20 tabs open in a web browser also doesn't mean that you are multi-tasking, it's actually more in-tune with Attention Deficit Disorder and bouncing around like a squirrel as far as the cerebral cortex is concerned. Computers, on the other hand, if you have a multi-core processor, then that computer can truly multi-task. Whereas a single-core computer can not - that single-core computer has Attention Deficit Disorder and is bouncing around like a squirrel. That's also why single-core computers had to have faster clock speeds and massive cooling fans (and I've seen some that even had their own "radiator" and was water-cooled - no anti-freeze required, waka waka waka). A multi-core processor can perform the same amount of tasks with a lower clock speed and a power supply that doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on (yeah, exaggerating for effect - but I remember the days when turning the TV on dimmed the living room light slightly or the days when you turned the computer's CRT on and it sounded like it just inhaled all the air in the room). And if you do a lot of benchmark tests as opposed to just relying on your "gut" and "placebo effect", then you may have noticed that most benchmark programs will include a single core score and a multi core score - the two reveal very different aspects of your computer. And the same goes for your web browser in general. But anyway, what was the question again, I think I may be suffering a small bout of ADD... 1 + 1 = 10...

@XPerceniol - you cited in one of the 360Chrome threads that multi-process (several .exe's in the Windows Task Manager) is one of the things that you do not like about Chrome-based browsers. So I must admit, I'm a bit confused that you are attempting to bring multi-process to FF-based browsers when that support by its developers never matured anywhere near the level of Chrome development (from my understanding).

Hmm, interesting route and you had me thinking of doing the same for my rebuild. I think for now I am going to keep iframse.srx and skin.srx untouched but may end up going this route down the road. I kind of like how if you "missed" something in en_skin.srx, the GUI has a "fallback" and pulls from iframe.srx and skin.srx.

No. That build 1106 was only a test for YouTube stability on XP x86 SP2. That build has been abandoned.

Can you tell me if this was @Humming Owl's v9, v11, or v12?

I haven't been following the NM thread as closely as I used to. Where did you hear that NM 27 will be up'd from 38 to 41?

Maybe it's "local jargon", but we always referred to 720 as "dvd quality", not as "HD". Oh, don't get me started on drink sizes! I always ask for a "tiny" and when the cashier says "We only have large, medium, and small". I reply, "Not true, you have large, gigantic, and mega-sized. Can I have a kid's size?"

How about a little tiny bit of context? Where I work, we fire people for clicking on "beware" links - so simply out of habit you won't get me to click on your link. I think our IT Dept calls it "spear phishing" but I could be mistaken on their terminology.

Microsoft kinda "has to" go that route. Look at the success of Apple. When we were growing up, a digital watch was a teeny tiny step up from white tape across the bridge of your glasses and donning a calculator watch. But Apple turned that digital watch into a fashion trend, a social class moniker of sorts. Apple led a revolution where you don't look to GM, GE, or Citigroup as an economic indication of the economy, you look at "phone stocks" and how many phones were sold over Christmas. True, Microsoft tried to take Apple's lead and tried a mobile OS (8) but failed - because that OS was so-so for a tablet but it couldn't carry over to a wrist watch. So now Microsoft is trying again and trying something that should not only fit today's tablets, but should also fit tomorrow's wrist watch. Or something like that...

Of course, there has to be a good "balance". I *hate* anti-virus programs because they cause more problems then they solve. Take a look at how many "processes" show up in the Task Manager for most anti-virus programs - doesn't stop the "security fan boys" from running their anti-virus and thumping us over the head for not running any anti-virus.

There are pros and cons to multi-process. It's really not as "simplistic" as opening up Window's Task Manager and gasping for air because your browser is using 8 processes but only 15 to 20 percent more RAM than a single-process equivalent browser session in something like MyPal or New Moon. The debate has been "raging" since 2015 or so.

That is to be expected. 360Chrome is a multi-process browser, New Moon is not. Here is a good read on the topic, I suggest Googling it if you are really interested - https://helgeklein.com/blog/modern-multi-process-browser-architecture/

Good point. I guess I assumed that Win95 had language options and you installed in your own language, but I really don't remember what the Win95 install looked like.

Agreed. My point was more along the lines of what peripherals could be plugged in, I wasn't referring to "hot" or "not". But I will add this, having been around computers since the Commodore 64, I have never met anybody that thought they could pop the side of the tower and just start unplugging stuff and plugging it back in WHILE THE POWER WAS ON. Forget about whether the OS was running or not, who pops the side off the tower and starts unplugging stuff with the power on? For my next trick, I'm going to swap out the master cylinder for my anti-lock brakes while I am driving down the road at 100mph

I find that a little more likely. A little Googling indicates that USB 1.0 was released in Jan 1996 and Win95 was released in August 1995. So the only thing that you could really plug into Win95 was parallel and serial port and the old ps/2 mice and keyboards.

I spoke too quickly the first time around. I haven't been able to get that situation to repeat. Maybe it was other programs I had running at the time, not sure.