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  1. NotHereToPlayGames
    That NM27 v27.5.1 is from Feodor2's GitHub archive -- https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal27old/releases Feodor2's releases were called "New Moon" and didn't take the "Mypal" name until v27.7.2. His very first release was Mypal but switched back to New Moon "because the most users did not like the name change" (according to GitHub). From my slipstreamed installation disk, my only browser in March 2017 was GreenBrowser + Proxomitron. My next archived installation disk isn't until September 2018 and it shows I went to Roytam's v28.1.0a1 32-bit 2018-09-14. That is from my Acer machine and it's actually only used out in the garage. My eMachine computer will tell a bigger picture but would also require more digging. I know that I was using Moonchild's Pale Moon for several months, then Mypal for several months when Moonchild dropped XP, then Chromium only as a backup to Mypal. Then I eventually landed on Roytam's v28.1.0a1 and only trial-tested Roytam's "weekly" releases but kept v28.1.0a1 as default-for-all. I personally feel that Roytam's upgrade process is too "rushed" and I have witnessed far too many patches that are later "backed out". To each their own, we all have different needs and different perspectives. I am aware that some of those back-outs are upstream also, but some are literally just "typos". It displeases me that several of these aren't even "discovered" in this forum because the forum-users seem to only notice if YouTube gets broken and nothing more. All of that has me digging through archives and performing my own tests and seeking out, at least from my perspective, a "mature" version that renders all of my needs. I'm using various "benchmarks" and attempting to keep "personal preference" out of the picture. I would like to edit the Help -> About popup boxes in several of these archive versions during my testing process basically with the end-in-mind that one of these is going to become my new default-for-all. I am still in-process of determining which version that is going to be. But I do know this, it's NOT going to be Roytam's "latest and greatest" because about:permissions remains broken and I'm getting better benchmark numbers with older versions. I'm probably not supposed to say that in a forum where we all cheer-lead Roytam because he is doing great work and I'm not trying to undermine that. I think the Help -> About has to be done to xul.dll but until then I have found that I can do various hides and highlights via Stylem.
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    Perfect example of why I highly prefer the good-ol'-days when software went through "alpha" and "beta" testing. Instead of the "nightly" and "weekly" roll out routine where software is no longer actually TESTED before being released to the public. And we end up with a public with a 'warm and fuzzy' "false sense of security" because they're running that nightly/weekly - and that can't wait five days for an announced bug-fix. I believe that the public has become blind to the fact that often an "update" INTRODUCES more issues than it 'fixed'. Us Roytam users need to start calling ourselves what we are - "beta testers". But I digress
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    Anyone know how to edit the Help -> About popup box? I'd like to grammatically correct and update a MyPal version's About popup I keep around for benchmark comparisons and add the release date. It's petty, I know, but I know I've been able to do this with other software but I can't seem to with this.
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    BNavigator -- *any* version (on XP x86 or XP x64) Does the Download Manager (Ctrl+J) work for anybody with any of the Roytam versions?
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    Okay, that makes sense. I only allow scripts on a white-list basis so in the 2+ years I've switched over to NM as my default-for-all, mom and dad's Ally Bank has been the ONLY site where I've seen that pop-up. And here I've been crossing my fingers that "one of these days", our weekly updates was going to 'fix' that Edit: The i7-4770 is my computer with five widescreen monitors. I technically do most of these types of tests/upgrades inside a "VirtualBox" environment before ever testing/upgrading on "real" Operating System on other computers. Good catch for noticing ... But why would I run such a relatively new CPU with only 1GB RAM, lol
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    I could never get PAE to work on my two Core Duo older machines so I ended up giving up on it and dropped down to 3GB RAM. Regarding the "Warning: Unresponsive Script" error -- here is why I feel it is the culprit. That error would pop up with NM27 from TWO weeks ago. That error would pop up with NM27 from THREE weeks ago. That error would pop up with NM27 from FOUR weeks ago. That error has been popping up with NM27 (at Ally Bank at least) for TWO YEARS!. BUT the NEWEST (one weekend ago, just a few days old now) does NOT pop up that "Warning: Unresponsive Script" error -- it CRASHES instead.
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    Yeah! I was finally able to crash the newest NM27! The key is that "Warning: Unresponsive Script" error. I used to get that all the time at my parents' (I carry my browser with me on USB) at Ally Bank. It was for the longest time the only website I used as an indicator to "upgrade" or not. If the latest NM27 didn't "fix" that error, then I stayed on my OLD version and opted to NOT "upgrade" (at least not the NM27 on USB). At least on this end, if I tell that error dialog to "Don't ask again" then the next browser session doesn't crash - the page stops loading but at least the browser didn't crash and there was no error dialog popup.
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    Interesting. Should I feel glad or sad that it doesn't crash for me? I kinda feel left out But with Roytam mentioning that area of code hasn't been touched in a while, that kind of bugs me. Because it tells us that a "new patch" at one address DOES effect code in a totally different address.
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    Including this one, I've done THREE screencaps - only the first was XP x64, the second two are XP x86. I can NOT reproduce a crash for your YouTube link either. Nobody else has chimed in one way or another, I at least TRIED to help
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    I already screencap'd that I'm using the same exact NM27 that you cite the crash. I have jumped through every hoop I can think of in trying to reproduce this crash, including XP x86. I simply can NOT reproduce this crash - and nobody else has chimed in to offer anything additional so I don't see anything additional that I can do, sorry.
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    Okay, German site crashes in Germany and in France. I await to hear from anybody in the US where it crashes for them "here". I stand by my diagnosis that I am being served a DIFFERENT script then folks on that side of the pond. And the script that I am being served is NOT crashing the NEWEST NM27 (as I screencap'd earlier).
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    Since you live in Germany, my hunch is that you are being served different scripts than I am here in the States.
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    Again, it's just you. I can NOT reproduce this here. This is from my XP x64. Did not test in my XP x86 (and most likely will not). Can we have a screencap of your Add-On list?
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    I can NOT reproduce this here.
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    Re: Notepad++ I personally use PORTABLE software pretty much exclusively. My version-of-choice when it comes to Notepad++ is version 6.8.8. It's not only the first version to color-code .rdf and .xul, but I monitor installer size and it's among the SMALLEST .paf.exe versions by a very wide margin.
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    Ugh, I kinda get tired of hearing this "stuff". And I know that the "philosophy" or the "ideology" or the "sociology", whichever best classifies it, is not only difficult to explain, but also difficult to grasp. An excerpt from thougtco.com - https://www.thoughtco.com/ideology-definition-3026356 Ideology is a system of concepts and views which serves to make sense of the world while obscuring the social interests that are expressed therein, and by its completeness and relative internal consistency tends to form a closed system and maintain itself in the face of contradictory or inconsistent experience. ~Terry Eagleton </end exceprt> I love my Win XP - and my love for it is an "obscured social interest". Others here love their Win XP (or their Vista, as the case may go) - our shared love of our obscured social interest is "internally consistent". We are a "closed system" - whether we are conscious of being closed or not. We stand hand-in-hand in defense of our obscured social interest even "in the face of contradictory or inconsistent experience". We know that XP is less secure than 10 - but we don't care, we have more dominant justifications to use XP. ie, "obscured" We know that security vulnerabilities exist in running an old OS but we attempt to draw the line at running an old version of Notepad++ ??? ie, "in the face of contradictory or inconsistent experience" ie, "even more obscured" Again, we are a "closed system" - and our "social interest" is *obscured* (ie, unclear and difficult to understand, especially to those on the "outside" of that 'closed system'). It really is NOT "our place" to push "our world view" upon those 'on the outside'. If Moonchild wished to abandon XP, it is their (his?) prerogative to do so. If Notepad++ wishes to abandon XP, it is their prerogative to do so. et cetera... I don't know, difficult to explain, difficult to grasp. I love my XP and as "closed" as that may be, at least you guys are just as "closed", lol. But I myself do attempt to remain conscious of living inside that "closed system". And, while opinionated as I am, I do try to "know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away"
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    No bug here - so it's your PMChrome theme, I suspect.
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    Well, if we're going to include stuff that don't run on XP - then Chromium 86.0.4240.111 scores 68.2 +/- 0.75
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    I'd concede to majority consensus, but my vote on adding Jetpack to NM27 would be a resounding NO. Don't need it, don't want it, to me it would be "bloat" added to very fine product.
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    Oh yeah, forgot to add NM28. NM27 has always "felt" much more responsive than NM28 - at least now I have a "benchmark" that kinda proves it also :) NM28 28.1.0a1 (2018-09-21) == 25.3 +/- 0.44 NM28 28.10.2a1 (2020-10-23) == 27.7 +/- 0.34
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    I'm not generally a huge fan of "benchmarks" because they focus too much on graphics and I don't do a lot of videos or YouTube. But here's one that touts to focus on "the responsiveness of web applications" - https://browserbench.org/Speedometer2.0/ Below are my results on an i7-4770 running XP x64 (I run 32bit browsers even though on a 64bit OS) [higher numbers are better], "mileage may vary". NM27 27.6.0a1 (2017-10-29) == 36.6 +/- 0.39 NM27 27.9.7 (2020-10-23) == 36.3 +/- 0.47 Arctic Fox 27.10.2a (2020-10-23) == 36.3 +/- 0.67 Mypal 28.2.2 (2018-12-12) == 27.2 +/- 0.64 Mypal 28.14.2 (2020-10-13) == 28.86 +/- 0.25 BNavigator 0.9.7559a1 (2020-10-09) == 27.5 +/- 0.31 Basilisk/Serpent 52.9.0 (2020-10-23) == 27.28 +/- 0.15 Chromium 49.0.2623.112 (2016-12-24) == 59.8 +/- 0.81 Chromium (Advanced Chrome) 54.15.5320.0 (2017-10-29) == 51.6 +/- 1.3
  22. NotHereToPlayGames
    You shouldn't hold your breath on getting a direct reply. Roytam offers SEVENTEEN different browser builds if I counted correctly. You need to find one that "balances" most of your needs - you will NOT find one that meets "all" of your needs. It took TWO YEARS for an "about:permissions" bug to get 'partially' fixed in NM27. I personally hold the view that a "patch" applied INCORRECTLY actually INTRODUCES security vulnerabilities. That didn't stop people from using NM27 during those TWO YEARS. We do have a "large following" here that FALSELY thinks they are "secure" just because they update their browser 'weekly'. That is NOT meant as any disprespect, so to speak. We all have differing perspectives on "security" - 'to each their own' :)
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    regarding ArcticFox vs NM27 -- about:permissions is still broken in ArcticFox but has been 90% fixed in NM27 a month or so ago
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    This can be done relatively easy using an older program called "Proxomitron". Huge fan! Couple it with GreenBrowser and that was my default-for-everything combination for a good 4-5 years or so. The creator passed away a few years back but there is a recent project being updated every once in a while. Though might be easier to see if a NM27 addon can be created.
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    No disagreement on "security" perspectives. I did point out that as far as browser preference goes, that the reality is that nobody can answer that question but you (the person that was asking which browser to use). Sure, we have a lot of "cheerleaders" here that will say "use this browser, I use it and so should you" (paraphrasing, of course). But I was striving to provide some "logical justifications" as to why I use NM27 over NM28. I only use EIGHT add-ons so I don't doubt that my needs are for sure less "broad" than others. I do take the security stance of "save often" and kinda don't 'care' if I get hit with a virus (I never have, knock on wood). I keep a disk image handy for full unattended reinstall and don't save anything to the local hard drive. My computer can crash and I'm back up fully operational in 20 minutes.
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