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... and all of this closes a circle "I" started in my first post in this thread: Not to toot my own horn, but...

is Primetime Decryption different to Widevine ?? yet I've the Primetime decription activated and widevine in the folder yet it is a no go how do i get the widevine to appear in firefox addons and activated the version I have of widevine is 1.4..8.903 and 1.4.8.1008 Amazon Prime videos use DRM (Digital Rights Management), that is full encryption of streams. Adobe Primetime was/is a deprecated (not valid anymore) CDM (Content Decryption Module), whose only current use is by Windows XP users to enable h264/aac (patented video+audio codecs) decoding for HTML5 media playback inside Firefox web browser. No media delivery service uses Adobe Primetime for the purposes it was originally made, that is to decrypt DRM'ed content! 99% of services that offer encrypted audiovisual content (Netflix, Amazon, Spotify and many other media portals like national TV sites all around the world) rely on the Widevine CDM (currently owned by Google) ; Widevine module is closed-source and connects in real-time (during media playback) to specialised licence servers (equally owned by Google) to acquire decryption keys. Google updates the Widevine modules and lic servers very often and the browser vendors have to follow close; unlike Adobe Flash player plugin, which can be updated independently from the browser, a certain browser version (be it Firefox or Chrome) can only support a certain type (called "interface") of the WV CDM; this is because support for a specific "version" of widevine is coded inside the browser's own code; updated versions of the CDM can't/won't work with older browser versions. Widevine in Firefox is being updated as the browser itself is (i.e. newer versions come with updated Firefox builds); in recent Chrome versions, one can manually update the module to the latest - but still supported - version via "chrome://components" internal page... In what concerns Widevine CDM and Windows XP, these two are indeed incompatible in the case of Mozilla-type browsers, because the CDM is coded in such a way that it only looks for (patented) decoders in the OS via Windows Media Foundation framework (WMF), a Windows feature that first appears in Windows Vista SP2; this is why the Mozilla devs have hidden the Widevine CDM from appearing inside about:plugins when the OS used is Windows XP! Even if you made it appear back (which would've required modifying the browser's code and recompiling), it would be totally useless under XP! (if Widevine were open-source, it could have been patched to look for decoders elsewhere, but, sadly for XP users, that's NOT the case!). In the case of Widevine CDM PPAPI in Google Chrome, there the module uses the patented codecs bundled with the browser, but the versions of Widevine (1.4.6.xxxx to 1.4.8.xxxx) supported in Chrome 49 (last WinXP compatible) are now severely outdated and will be denied access by licence servers; as such, they are simply not working anymore! As of this writing, minimum supported "version" of Widevine CDM, of any type (NPAPI/PPAPI), is 1.4.9.xxxx (version 1.4.9.1088 to be revoked at the end of May) - to my knowledge, no browser under XP has support for current valid Widevine versions! (Under Vista, the only browser that I know of that supports WidevineCDM is @roytam1's Serpent 52.9.0 (very recent builds), thanks to a gallant effort by the Moonchild team to restore partial support for WV v1.4.9.xxxx in official Basilisk; support for the next generation of WV ("interface" 10, versions 4.10.xxxx), currently in place in Firefox Quantum, is not there yet, so at the end of May Serpent's WV support under Vista+ may become broken, too...) For those that may want to read more on the WV subject: https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/issues/26#issuecomment-456969027 https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/UXP/issues/962

... Of course they are! But I was referring to the "\Capabilities\StartMenu" subkeys as displayed in my previous post https://msfn.org/board/topic/178355-missing-email-client-in-the-start-menu/?do=findComment&comment=1162776 Does "Mozilla Thunderbird" have such a StartMenu subkey even on Windows 10? Not to worry; apart from English (and, of course, Greek ), I also speak (but not write well) French and my late father (God rest his soul) had studied in Torino; lots of Italian books exist in the family library, as a young kid I used to open and try to read them; I can now understand quite well written Italian (it has evolved from ancient Latin, of course, a common root shared between modern French, Spanish, Portuguese and, to a lesser degree, English...); but I'm certainly going off-topic with this... Saluti

New Moon 28 has a default SSUAO for "live.com" that flags it as Firefox/52.9 (Pale Moon): general.useragent.override.live.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.9 (Pale Moon) OTOH, Serpent doesn't have this by default ; did you in fact modify the above SSUAO in NM28 to: general.useragent.override.live.com;Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Fedora; Fedora; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/73.0.3683.86 Safari/537.36 ???

It depends on where you installed Mozilla Firefox on your system; the "installation" could have been a "proper" one via the provided installer; if you accepted default settings and the OS resides in the C drive, it should be in "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\" The above is for a 32-bit OS (well, actually it also covers 64-bit Firefox in a 64-bit OS, but that is out of scope here...) %ProgramFiles% env var should be used for non-default OS installations... If you changed the default location during installation, only you know where that is... Second scenario is for people that don't use an installer, but a zip package; I should include in this case people running so-called "portable" installations (in PAF or WinPenPack formats); in all these cases, Firefox installation directory is where the main executable, firefox.exe, resides! (The following is from a previous FirefoxESR 24.8.1 "proper" installation on my Vista laptop: )

Perhaps they're checking whether the browser is WebRTC enabled? Serpent does support it, whereas New Moon doesn't... WebRTC is, of course, required for audio/video calls, it shouldn't be required for simple messaging, but what do I know...???

... Not what the extension author claims, BTW: ... Elementary, my dear Watson! The addon is of the Web Extension type (since hosted on AMO currently), as such won't install/work in Pale Moon and forks... (NB: Screengrab was taken with latest Serpent 52.9.0; it has a default SSUAO for AMO general.useragent.override.addons.mozilla.org;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.9 )

If you head over to about:support, you'll be able to see the global user-agent string of your Firefox browser: I can't tell whether it's a typo on your part, but override has 2 "r"s ! So, in order to spoof as Fx 53.0 on Win7, the name of the about:config "string" pref should read: general.useragent.override and its value: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:53.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/53.0 Setting that pref and restarting the browser, you'll be able to see the modified global UA string in about:support. Global UA means the same one is sent in the headers of all web requests; SSUAO (Site-Specific-User-Agent-Override) means a different to the global one is being sent when a web request is being made to the domain specified in the pref's name... If you followed my guide and enabled SSUAOs in FxESR 52.9.1, then to spoof as Fx 66.0 on Win7 to https://www.whatismybrowser.com/ you need create a "string" about:config pref with name general.useragent.override.whatismybrowser.com and value: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 For good measure, restart the browser after setting the above SSUAO (normally, it should work right-away...). I hope it's more clear now...

You've set it as default via the app itself ; probably a long shot, but have you tried using the OS for this setting? https://kb.wisc.edu/helpdesk/page.php?id=170#xp Do you still have Thunderbird 52.9.1 installed?

@Sampei.Nihira From the Microsoft link in your first post: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/shell/start-menu-reg#registering-for-the-start-menu-email-link Matt A. Tobin has created the official Interlink e-mail client to target Win7+, so he may have deliberately removed the function to place registry entries under the "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Clients\Mail" registry folder (as this is a WinXP/WinVista requirement ); I'm tired now to go through his repository, but, hopefully, that intentional change can be reverted by Roytam in a future MailNews release...

... and KM-Goanna3:

Hello and welcome to the forums Technically speaking, @roytam1's New Moon 28 builds are being compiled from source snapshots derived from the master branch of the upstream UXP (= the application platform) repository: https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/UXP/commits/master This is, more-or-less, similar with https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/master which gets synced with upstream before new binaries compilation... The exact source code from which the binaries are being compiled is best represented by the "custom" branch: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom which is official UXP + Roy's own changes... Given that the UXP master branch is being used for the compilation of the official Pale Moon "unstable" builds, https://www.palemoon.org/unstable/ simply put, New Moon releases are just forks of the official unstable Pale Moon update channel! But don't let the term "unstable" intimidate you one bit; Moonchild advises: so, to be on the safe side, just back-up your New Moon profile prior to updating your build (so you can restore it if something goes awry with the new build; you can always re-download a previous NM build from Roy's repository ); basically, just watch this thread and if something is broken with the release of a new NM28 build, it'll be reported and either fixed quickly via a re-issued build, or the "bug" will be properly addressed in the coming weekend's release... Personally, I've been using NM28 builds for many months, never have I suffered any data loss! I have no issue whatsoever with New Moon 28.5.0a1 while using the forum's post editor to submit/edit posts; but I'm not using No Script either... Adblocker used here is the "legacy" edition of uBlock Origin by gorhill, which works optimally with New Moon! No Script isn't just an adblocker but a more potent content-blocker, which has known issues with official Pale Moon and is not endorsed/recommended by Moonchild: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19110 https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=140965#p140965 Dedicated thread: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=19119 However, I understand several members here do use it with NM28, so perhaps it's them that should advise you better on how to tailor its settings to best accommodate the forum's post editor... Sometimes, it's not enough to simply disable No Script on a site for its effect to go away; you may have to temporarily disable the extension in about:addons and restart the browser or, even, have to uninstall it completely to test things; I would start by creating a new clean New Moon 28 profile and test there how the forum behaves; often times, the cause of issues is No Script conflicts with other(s) installed extension(s); you have to troubleshoot this yourself... Best greetings

Probably not... CTR itself as an extension targets the Australis GUI (Firefox 29-56), not Photon (Firefox >=57.0); I believe updated versions of CustomCSSforFx should be applicable in the Photon iteration of Waterfox 68.0a, but any such talk is still very premature... In any case, Waterfox discussion, methinks, should be continued in a more "appropriate" forum, seeing that the browser requires at least Windows 7 64-bit...

... Not quite ; "bootstrap" is just one category of "legacy" (i.e. non-WE) extensions, along with XPCOM, XUL overlay and jetpack; as such, they were indeed supported in Firefox 56.0.2 (last version with "legacy" support) and are still supported in latest Waterfox 56.2.9 ; what Jody wrote was actually: meaning that Waterfox v68α is Quantum based and will have the Photon GUI and WE support native to Quantum, but the Waterfox developer (Alex Kontos, of Greek descent) has somehow (?) managed to port to it "bootstrapped extensions" support... [ IIRC, early versions of Firefox Quantum, 57-58, especially in the Nightly and Developer/Beta branches, were able to support (at varying degree) classic extensions via flipping a pref (extensions.legacy.enabled); more here; as Quantum matured to > 58.0 version numbers, "legacy" extension APIs were eradicated to the point that pref, where still present, had no actual effect... ]

Nothing NEW here; I'm starting to get the impression your web searching skills are falling behind : https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Archive/Add-ons/Bootstrapped_extensions aka "restartless" addons; according to the page itself, Regards

Latest .EXE files (installers) have been uploaded now! http://faucet.aas.duke.edu/pub/pc/bigfix/patches/java/jre-8u211-windows-i586.exe http://faucet.aas.duke.edu/pub/pc/bigfix/patches/java/jre-8u212-windows-i586.exe But these are valid for Vista+ users, only ; Duke Uni DO NOT upload the .tar.gz archives necessary for XP ...

Your issue is most probably caused by the fact @roytam1's MailNews fork is being distributed as a .7z package and not as an installer ; an installer is needed to write the necessary registry keys so that Interlink/MailNews appears as one of the available installed mail clients ; I am on Vista myself (as I'm sure you know already ), but the related registry section should be quasi-similar in XP, too! In regedit, navigate to [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Clients] : the "StartMenuInternet" subfolder should contain the choices for available browsers; the "Mail" subfolder should contain available installed e-mail clients (mine are Microsoft Outlook and Windows Mail - the latter is the default Windows client, akin to XP's Outlook Express 6); every mail client should have a "\Capabilities\StartMenu" subkey in order for it to appear inside Start Menu's "e-mail" selection; in my setup, I use Windows Mail as the default client, its subkey looks like: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Clients\Mail\Windows Mail\Capabilities\StartMenu] "Mail"="Windows Mail" Probably additional registry keys are needed for the StartMenu entry to function properly (i.e. actually launch the client...). What one could do is install the official Interlink client on Windows 7+ with a registry monitor ON during the installation process, write down the new registry keys as a result of the install and somehow export them to the XP machine where MailNews is being used... As with any registry manipulation, take due precautionary measures... Hope I've pointed you towards the right direction; I trust our own MSFN perennial XP experts to chime in with more...

If that wasn't a rhetorical question... : https://design.firefox.com/photon/

... It was detailed in the official Pale Moon forums that UXP (off of Mozilla ESR 52.6.0) is the final Mozilla code fork-point for Moonchild Productions' applications, as they concluded that any more up-to-date Mozilla code is, in fact, incompatible with XUL apps and their own vision of how apps should be: To this day, they claim they'll stay clear of the Quantum platform (which includes Rust, Servo and other XP+Vista incompatible code/libs), so my gut feeling is if/when official Pale Moon 29.x.x is released, it'll be built on a UXP evolutionary off-spring (thus, still being susceptible to the XP+Vista restoration "treatment" ); of course, time will only tell

OS: Windows Vista SP2 32-bit Browser: Serpent v52.9.0 (2019-04-19) (32-bit) buildID=20190419233752 Original browser package: "basilisk52-g4.1.win32-git-20190420-51722cd4f-xpmod.7z" Userstyle manager extension installed: Stylem 2.2.4 Sadly, it well appears that installing userstyles directly from the userstyles.org repository is currently broken (again ) : Clicking the "Install Style" button gets the tab to become unresponsive/hang, with no prompt appearing to install the style... Is it 1. The site's fault? 2. The browser's fault? 3. The extension's fault? In any case, I had to use the workaround posted in this thread some months ago... about:addons => "User Styles" tab => "Install style from URL" button (second on top-left) => Input the following URL: https://userstyles.org/styles/144028/google-clean-dark.css

... The Moonchild Productions devs have just bumped appVersion to 28.5.0a2 in their master branch: https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/UXP/commit/bccf86a (bumping platformVersion as well to 4.2.0); I expect @roytam1 to soon follow on this - when that happens, your script will fail and'll have to be amended... Just a heads-up!

... Thanks for the heads-up; Vista SP2's build number change has been already reported: In fact, I do believe your post should've been originally submitted to that thread (Server 2008 Updates on Windows Vista), as the one here is marked "Last versions of software for Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008"; please submit any follow-up to that, more appropriate, Vista thread... I'd be keen to hear from other Vista users as well about eventual OS instability as a result of installing KB4493458 (but, please, in the dedicated thread I linked to...)

... Thanks ; your direct link fetches file sw_lic_full_installer.exe (12.5 MiB); same Adobe directory, but what I consider the more standard filename, Shockwave_Installer_Full.exe (14.4 MiB); probably a case of "pot-ayto/pot-uto" Happy Easter to you, den

... and with it came a revised Oracle Licensing Agreement: Oracle Technology Network License Agreement for Oracle Java SE As usual, I went directly to the Oracle download page to manually fetch latest installers for both 8u211 & 8u212: Java SE Runtime Environment 8 Downloads On Vista, both continue to work as intended; with every new JRE release, I would archive both and install either one (mostly the odd-numbered one...); latest release files were, up-until-now, publicly available, whereas the immediately previous and older releases, available via the Oracle Java archive, required an Oracle account ... While the latest, Windows 7+, 64-bit (only), compatible Java (JDK) offerings are still publicly available (i.e. accessible without an Oracle account), I, like @Dave-H, soon found out, to my substantial dismay , that the current/latest JRE 8u211/8u212 files are now behind a mandatory Oracle account! Then I had a read of the "Updated Licensing FAQs" over at https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/overview/oracle-jdk-faqs.html from which I quote: ... Off to java.com I go, then... ; the problem with that download page is that, for Windows users at least, it only provides 32-bit (and 64-bit) installers, and only for the odd-numbered JRE version (8u211) ; this already constitutes a limitation for Windows XP SP3 users, for whom the provided installers don't function at all; XP users need access to jre-8u21x-windows-i586.tar.gz archives in order to update their installations... Also, in the Java Development Kit 8 Update Release Notes they mark both 8u211 and 8u212 versions as being (GA): "General Availability"; isn't that a distorted sense of the term "general", given that login-credentials are now required? If you don't want to create an account with Oracle, I found file jre-8u212-windows-i586.exe FREELY available over at FileHorse; just be careful not to download their proprietary downloader (2.6MiB) but the actual Java installer (66.4MiB - use the "if it doesn't click here to start it" page link ). For the .tar.gz archives, I'm afraid an account is needed (I'm not advising others to do the same , but I just visited this site and the first set of credentials there worked fine; for crying out loud, this is a free, "generally-available" file, so I don't feel shame in the slightest...).

... Using more than one content-blockers at the same time is inadvisable : https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock#note-for-all-browsers More is... less in this case; uBlock Origin and Adguard are both competent in what they do, so choose the one or the other (I use the - Russian made - Adguard solution in my Yandex Browser (17.6.0) copy and I find it can satisfactorily replace uB0 ). Just my two (euro)cents, of course...