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My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@Mathwiz, 60esr is nice in some ways but its limitations that you mentioned keep me from using it as the primary browser. Found this today regarding the Multi-Account Containers addon: "Unfortunately due to how ESR works we couldn't continue it's development to work there as we have been adding many APIs. The extension will work in 53 and the next 59 ESR. (We have an outstanding bug to fix the version number minimum, sorry about that)." https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/reviews/920351/ Those who ripped container tabs out of basilisk must have known this and why they referenced MultiFox, even though it's buggy and not ready for prime time. Unfortunately, there is no perfect browser since everyone has their own ideas of how it should it work. Thankfully, Roy is restoring some of these lost features but I understand that can't go on forever as there's only so much work one person can take on. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Wish they would stop arbitrarily removing useful features but if you can restore this one without a lot of extra work that would be great. If not there's always 52 or 60esr but for me it's mainly the convenience of having it in the browser you're using most of the time. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
That's a matter of opinion and I'll grant you 60esr isn't bad, I just installed infocatcher's Private Tab addon on it and it works great. But does it get things done in comparison to the older legacy versions: no because so many other useful legacy addons are non-functional. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
They're useful if you want to sign into different accounts at the same site at the same time, or to prevent possible tracking. I only recently started making use of them myself and hate to see them removed so unceremoniously but like you said, many probably don't even know the feature exists. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
That's a very nice addon by Infocatcher, thanks VL for telling me about it. It's not quite the same as container tabs, it's basically a private window in a tab instead but it's so much nicer and convenient than opening it up in a window. Lots of options too; I like being able to easily toggle between a regular tab and a private one. Definitely a keeper. Container tabs have a different function in the way they keep cookies and history separated between the tabs. Maybe Roy can bring that back too the way he did webextensions? Don't want to push our luck on this but I wish the main guys would stop removing useful features, you'd think they were Mozilla or something. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
All one has to do is look at Quantum to know how true that statement is. It's one of the main reasons for using forks like basilisk in the first place. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Was hoping that MultiFox would be a good alternative but it's got obvious bugs. One is that noscript breaks when opening a new profile in a new window, at least with google voice. I'll keep playing around with it but it's not as straightforward as container tabs. The other option is private windows, that is until that gets cleaned up too. I'm afraid if they keep doing that there will be nothing left of the browser and no reason to use it. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thanks, I missed that in the changelog. Curious, what exactly were they "cleaning up"? Container tabs worked good and were useful. It wouldn't be a problem if the addon could replace them but it isn't functional and I tried all their versions. So I guess for container tabs I'll have to use 52esr. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Is anyone missing new container tabs from the File menu? Up until the latest uxp build they were there and I've been using them right along but now the option is gone. The "privacy.userContext.enabled" and "privacy.userContext.ui.enabled' prefs are set to true and they're working in 52esr so I'm guessing it's something specific to Basilisk. I tried installing the Multi-Account Containers addon but all it gives me is a thin line down below the toolbar button and nothing else. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Same problem for me on eBay; it's especially bad when trying to scroll on certain parts of the page, it can sometimes stick for 30 seconds or more before resuming. Many sites today are script-intensive and it appears overwhelming at times, even for the most up to date browsers. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Just tested the av1 demo in UXP for XP and it played, yay. The I tried it with a freshly downloaded 67.0 nightly and got an error message that the browser doesn't support av1 playback, please upgrade to 67.0 This is with media.av1.enabled and media.mediasource.webm.enabled" both set to true as with UXP. What a waste of time it is with the "new" Mozilla firefox, think I'll just stick to these older versions, they work better. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
So would this mean you could carry on with the weekly UXP updates? -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Wouldn't it be just a matter of changing the name? That seems to be one of the complaints. There would be no more weekly updates, we'd have to wait until the official release for any bug fixes etc. to be applied by the sound of it. Hopefully just bumps in the road rather than killing what are obviously better builds than their releases. That's probably what's eating at them. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Moonchild takes the position that legacy addons no longer need to be updated since they will always work in their browsers. That may be true for the most part but not for all of them. Newer addons that are interactive with the site, such as Enhancer for YouTube are constantly being updated for the simple fact that google is forever changing things. Legacy addons that used to do that are now either broken to some extent or completely useless since the developers have abandoned them. And at some point Raymond Hill will end development of legacy uBO, it's just a matter of time. That's why there's a need for webextension support whether most of us like it or not. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
All extensions working well for me on Win 7 and XP in the latest build. Thanks again to Roy for reverting the unnecessary changes. As I said earlier in the thread these versions of basilisk are what Firefox 52.9 should have been. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@Sampei.Nihira, and Mozilla said the opposite: they had to remove legacy because of security. I would imagine they both have issues but I've yet to hear many stories of where firefox has been compromised from addons, legacy or we. If it were a widespread problem then the argument can be made for changes otherwise it becomes unnecessary disruptions. @Mathwiz, I agree, legacy is dead in terms of development, their use comes in the ability to keep installing the old ones in browsers like basilisk but all of the energy today is with we and it's going to stay that way. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Why are they so determined to take that out? Why not just let it be and not maintain it? Don't see how that would affect performance but thanks for keeping it in, at this point we need both because legacy addons are no longer in development. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
That's good news though since Roy kept it in after it was removed from the nightly. I guess he can tell us himself what the future of webextensions is for UXP but like everyone else has said hopefully the code can be maintained for it. -
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DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Wasn't webextension support removed several weeks ago and Roy decided to keep it in the UXP builds? Hope so because there are no working alternatives for the ones I have. They're all youtube-based that set video resolution and other options so it's probably possible to use scripts but these addons work well and are convenient. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Same here, the missing addons are back. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@Tangy, most of mine are working but it has broken at least those two I mentioned. I even tried installing them in a new profile but they're dead. Hope it can be fixed otherwise I'm stuck on this older version since they are must have addons. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@roytam1, this week's basilisk UXP seems to have messed up the right context menu, there are many more entries. I temporarily restored last week's version and the menu went back to normal so it's definitely something with the new one. Anyone else experiencing this? Edit: it appears this weeks' version has caused several addons to stop working: menu editor and context search x are dead even though they're listed as enabled in addon manager. I've gone back to last week's basilisk. -
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DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
In XP flash has excellent hardware acceleration in firefox with these legacy radeon drivers, even in the 52.0 version but you had to go full screen for youtube and other videos. Guess I was one of the rare ones who didn't mind flash since the quality was perfectly fine but unfortunately few sites use it anymore. Mozilla messed it up in firefox even before its natural demise since after version 42 they forced the buggy plugin-container.exe by removing the option to disable OOPP. The result was choppy videos. It's the same reason primetime videos have reduced quality as well. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Not all of us, this is a long thread and I haven't run into any posts of your stance on XP, could you summarize? I still enjoy working W2k that blackwingcat kept going for so many years because like XP it's simple, fast and easy to use. The only complaint is that I'm unable to get video hardware acceleration going with any browser in either XP or W2k, including Firefox or Basilisk 52 probably because the drivers are blacklisted. In Windows 7 that works great. -
My Browser Builds (Part 1)
DanR20 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@Tamris, same here, don’t post there myself but do visit occasionally because of the many links to good articles. No sense wasting my time arguing about it, let them have their quantum, I suspect it’s not long for this world anyway.