LoneCrusader

I have been unable to find any solution to this issue. The Icon bug is an obvious cosmetic flaw, and, I noticed that several strings pertaining to CONFIG.SYS that are present in the 98SE SYSDM.CPL have been removed from the ME SYSDM.CPL. It is unknown at this time whether this would cause further problems for users who need special CONFIG.SYS setups or use it to load drivers, but I suspect further problems may lie hidden. There may be a way to make the 98SE version function in the same manner, but I have not managed to find it. I have tried various changes to the .INF files involved, trying to force an automated install, but nothing has worked.

It's normal for Setup to extract its driver (and other) files from the .CABs, that's how all versions of Windows 9x install... The X:\WIN95 reference must be something unique to your setup, because there are no such references in FIX95CPU. It sounds like the PATH to your CDROM drive (or .ISO mounted as CDROM) has been changed since the first round of Setup. Maybe with more details I could be of more help...

Probably a good idea to update VCACHE.VXD as well. Even 95B comes with VCACHE.VXD v4.00.950. The updated VCACHE.VXD v4.00.1111 for 95 B/C OSR2.x in Q194827 is 2x the size of the old 95/95A version. Q194827.EXE

Always check MDGx's site for HotFixes. He has a good percentage of them linked or archived. Q256015 (sometimes they will be renamed to "Q+ the KB#" rather than the original "KB# + (locale) + (5, 8, or M for 95/98/ME)" Which version of 98 are you using? First Edition or Second Edition? If Second Edition, there is a later version of the file involved in this fix...

Is this something that will pop up repeatedly or only the first time after downloading. Just curious. It's interesting to me that for versions of Adobe Reader one must download the later versions sequentially ex: v6.0.1 ---> v.6.0.2 ---> v6.0.3 and so on but for Adobe Flash Player it is recommended that you completely uninstall the old version before upgrading to the latest compatible version. No problem. You will only see the warning during the install, never again. Yes, it would be nice if the various patches for Adobe Reader v6.0.x would have been combined or if they had issued a complete v6.0.6 installer.

Here's a ZIP with both versions of Flash Payer 9.0.289.0. I archived it some time ago. fp9289.zip - 2.8 Mb EDIT: Here's the easy way to get Java 6u7. MDGx - AddOns - Java Follow the link/instructions in this section:

TIA = Thanks In Advance

I have extracted the contents of the Windows ME MSBACKUP package and compared all of the files inside to the versions in the 98SE .CABs. All of the files are the same, so differences in the MSBACKUP tool cannot be causing the error. I'm in the process of installing 98SE without the Backup tool and will test the ME SYSDM.CPL with that install to see if I get the "other" weird icon. EDIT: I have done further experimenting and I have had some interesting results. Without the Backup tool installed. I get the same Icon (19 SETUX/SETUPAPI) that PROBLEMCHYLD does. HOWEVER, ONLY devices installed AFTER updating SYSDM.CPL get messed up Icons. If the devices were already installed while using the 98SE version, their Icons remain correct. But, NOT ALL devices installed after updating SYSDM.CPL get messed up Icons. Only some. @PC Tested the special version I sent you again. On my machine it does NOT have the "not centered" bug. It should be good to go for your special case.

You might not, we do: jaclaz

At this point we don't even know if the OP HAS an nVidia card..

HT setting doesn't matter. I always leave it enabled on my machines because I multi-boot with other systems that can use HT; and even Win95 has no issues with it. You should also reduce your RAM to 512MB or less until you get everything installed properly. It's possible to use more, but I've never had any luck using more than that without RLoew's RAM patch. There are ways of doing so, but they should be left for experimentation once the installation is complete.

Get THIS and THIS. (Last Intel Chipset Utility for 98SE/ME and Intel Graphics Driver for an 865GLC Motherboard). Report your results. I have seen cases where OEM's will somehow "slightly" modify hardware just enough so that the original manufacturer's drivers do not work properly. Maybe that's why the Intel graphics drivers you downloaded already aren't working.

Ok... Back to the Icon problem. I examined the NTMAP.INF and USBNTMAP.INF files that are part of NUSB because I remember there being references to Tape Devices in them. I was correct, there are references to tape devices. However, the only "Icon" that is set by either of these files is a normal disk drive icon, Icon #9 in SETUPX/SETUPAPI. So, these files are not responsible for the problem. (Thought this was the case anyhow, but wanted to rule it out.) Since the registry entries associated with Tape Devices do not affect the 98SE version of SYSDM.CPL, I think we should concentrate on seeing if there is anything handled differently under ME for these devices before we try to fix it by removing/changing 98SE settings. I think our next step should be to examine the Windows ME settings for the same devices and see if anything is handled differently. We should see if all of the same INF's and other drivers are present under Windows ME, and see if Windows ME's Backup tool is different. If any of these items are different or expect different conditions, we may need to try backporting some other settings, files, or both in order for the ME SYSDM.CPL to respond properly.

Unicode if I remember correctly...

I have not attempted altering the Tape Detection entries in the registry yet, but I will look into it further later tonight. I'm not using the USP, but I'm using my own slipstreamed build of 98SE that contains many of the same things... I always have that tool selected when I install 98SE. No particular reason, I don't use it, but I guess it sounded nice. Strange that the results are different on different machines for the exact same hardware. We need to test this file on a wider range of hardware. My only testing so far has been in a VM. Well, I'm an Aries so maybe that explains something as well...

Yes, far too much information has already been lost. For the record, the old Borland Resource Workshop 4.5 can be used on many of the older type files, but it crashes when trying to load SYSDM.CPL. I have no programming experience, so writing my own tool would be out of the question, lol. Never seen anything like that before. Only the Tape Device icon on my system. The only place I've seen that Icon (19 in SETUPX.DLL as well) associated with USB is under Windows 95. Windows 95 does not contain a USB Icon or SETUPAPI.DLL by default, so it defaults to Icon 19 instead of Icon 20. I think we should examine the .INF's for Tape Detection and USB2 to see if something "similar" is being set for these devices that might cause overlap... ...or maybe that's a dumb idea... if INF's are causing it it SHOULD be present with the 98SE version...

No, I didn't find the source of the icon problem. But, as it affects all ME versions and is not caused by a Mod, I figure we will address it as a new project, but still within the scope of this discussion and thread. I have however, after much trial and error, managed to get all of the ME specific items removed and strings fixed. (The story...) I discovered that my original versions 1-3 modified with eXeScope did not suffer from the "New Hardware not centered" bug. It was only with version 4, when I started using Open Watcom, that the bug appeared. I opened the original ME HotFix file with Open Watcom and saved it without making ANY changes. Then I compared the original and the saved version with a Hex Editor. Open Watcom added 32 sequential bytes of rubbish, nothing but NULL characters, into the file and changed 222 other bytes (increased all by 2 dec.) that I assume are some type of data "offsets" or "addresses" for the rest of the file. The file now had the "not centered" bug. I took my v03 and modified ONE single item with Open Watcom (unchecked "Visible" for the "Disable System Restore" option) and saved it. Then I compared that file against my v03 with a Hex Editor. Open Watcom had added 16 bytes of rubbish this time, along with the "offset" changes, but I was able to figure out which 2 bytes had been changed that were important. I returned to my v03, and used the Hex Editor to change ONLY those two bytes. This file worked properly, with the "Disable" option hidden, and no "not centered" bug. I repeated this process, changing things with Open Watcom; comparing the changes against the file modified directly with a Hex Editor; figuring out what bytes were relevant; and then applying them to the Hex Edited file. It took a while, but I now have all of the ME options hidden, all of the ME strings changed to 98, and no errors caused by modding that I am aware of. This file should be tested thoroughly as well though. SYSDMCPL.ZIP - V06

What, no testers? Maybe I should just not post the new, final, fixed version?

I've retested my previous v01, v02, and v03 files. They do NOT have the "not centered" bug on my system. I'm reposting a link to my v03. Please retest and see if you all are still getting the "New Hardware not centered" bug... EDIT: V03 link removed.

All of my modifications were done on the original file extracted from the ME HotFix rather than the one extracted from NUSB, although I'm sure they're identical.

Bizarre. Neither the original USB Icon nor the Icon I'm seeing are present in SYSDM.CPL at all. I agree one problem at a time, but I went ahead and mentioned it because whatever is causing it is already in the official ME version and is not caused by a mod...

I have checked my original "version 01" that was done with eXeScope and contained only modifications to the System/General tab (Dialog 503). It does NOT have the bug. Since this is the case, and the special version I sent to PROBLEMCHYLD DOES have the bug, then it must have been caused by the String edits. (special version is v01 mods {general tab} + v03 mods {strings} without v02 mods {sys restore disk slider}) I'm still investigating. @PROBLEMCHYLD Could you check something else for me? In the screenshot you posted, I see an Intel USB controller is being reinstalled. I have the exact same controller on the VM I'm testing with. When that particular device is reinstalled, does it show a normal USB Icon in the Device Manager when using the ME SYSDM.CPL? I'm seeing a different Icon for it when using the ME version than the normal USB Icon I see with the 98SE version... @dencorso I didn't expect this issue to be so involved or require so much work. I don't want to hijack this thread, so it may be best to split my original SYSDM.CPL post (#732) and the rest of this off into a new thread, say, "Modified SYSDM.CPL 4.90.3001 for 98SE"?

Thanks Strange.. I didn't touch any of the other dialogs. I will look into this, don't know whether I will have any results tonight though, I have some important things to do early in the morning. Stay tuned! EDIT: Examined the 98SE, ME, and my "Final" versions in Open Watcom and eXeScope. No differences are apparent in the affected dialog between the three versions, and the "Test" mode for each file in both programs displays the dialog properly in the center of the screen. The "Center" attribute is set for the dialog already in both programs. Disabling and reenabling it with Open Watcom results in a binary-identical file as the "Final" version and the same bug. Disabling and reenabling it with eXeScope results in a file with 2 bytes different from "Final" but a worse bugged dialog with the icon missing. :wacko: @PROBLEMCHYLD I assume that the special version I sent you has this bug as well? If that's the case then this bug is caused by changes back in my 1st or 3rd version and has been carried over to the later versions. No idea what is causing it, but I'm going to start completely over tomorrow using Open Watcom for all changes rather than eXeScope.

I'm working on the final version right now. Thanks loblo, Open Watcom seems to do the trick with SYSDM.CPL renamed to .DLL I will edit this post with a link to the "Final" version for testing as soon as I'm done. EDIT: Here's a link to the Final version. {Old link to Bugged File Removed} File version number has been increased to 4.90.3002, but note that this file is customized for 98SE ONLY. Do NOT use with Windows ME. It contains nothing useful for Windows ME and has ME-specific items removed. All changes to this file have been cosmetic, but it should be tested in various situations, such as: removing and installing devices/drivers, and enabling/disabling items on the various "File System" dialogs to be sure there are no unseen side effects. Report any and all bugs here.

My original linked version in my first post about SYSDM.CPL (timestamped 3:00:00 AM, it was my own internal 3rd version) has all of the modifications to make the file correct for 98SE with ONE exception - the "Disable System Restore" option is still present on the Troubleshooting dialog. ONLY the bare minimum of modifications required to make the file correct for 98SE were made; I didn't even increase the version number (will leave that for when this is finalized.) My goal is to get that one thing hidden, with the minimum amount of changes possible, and I will consider it to be "final." Any other modifications would be up to users. {offtopic} IIRC, PROBLEMCHYLD, you use a backported version of ME's System Restore on your own 98SE don't you? If you like I will take one of my older builds and only modify the System/General Tab and the Strings so that you can have & use the System Restore controls on your own system. {/offtopic}