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New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2106 - Part 1: Un-prefix -moz-user-select (cc55a380f6) - Issue #2106 - Part 2: Align value names (17b594b705) - No issue - Fix mixing of tabs with space-indented code. (552cb8dbcc) - Issue #2045 - Part 1: Revert "Temporarily force hidden elements to be actually hidden." (dd2cf17d30) - Issue #2045 - Part 2: Add handling and storage for the revert unit and value (7f3f90eed4) - Issue #2045 - Part 3: Implement cascade origin tracking to CSS parser (b0f0972314) - Issue #2045 - Part 4: Parse "revert" in property values wherever "unset" is allowed (9105c58a30) - Issue #2045 - Part 5: Serialize shorthands using "revert" like those containing "unset" (801d4a2db8) - Issue #2045 - Part 6: Treat "revert" values as the same as "unset" when encountered in the rule node (c4b6135c99) - Issue #2045 - Part 7: Override revert values during presentation hint cascade (166e98d2b9) - Issue #2045 - Part 8: Remap revert keyword values to a higher cascade level (a47f44e93d) - Issue #2045 - Part 9: Include the revert keyword in the list of accepted values for CSS properties returned by inDOMUtils (5346e55655) - Issue #2045 - Part 10: Regenerate devtools CSS database and include the revert keyword in related devtools code (f0b8d1df2c) - Issue #2106 - Part 3: Add 'contain' as user-select value, retain 'element' (e6b48fcc95) - [devtools] Further improve special character escaping in "copy as curl". (2d9cb22a28) - No Issue - Add detection for medium in border shorthand (9f7430f8b9) - Issue #2124 - Adjust overflow parser to handle two values (f4ffb1ec16) - Issue #2662 - Implement axis-shorthand parsing (7c52fd934f) - Issue #2124/2662: Optimize overflow shorthand parsing and serialization (7626c99ceb) - Issue #2124/2662: Cleaning of code (dae72b452c) - Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional Un-prefixing (1a5b3dcae6) - Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Un-prefix DOM Attribute MozUserSelect (abb891ff26) - Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional contain Keyword Entries (f1815317c3) - Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Remove Defunct -moz-user-select CSS Directives (8f46cd0d63) - Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Un-prefix -moz-user-select in Comments (b11affbdf3) - Issue #2780: Add back the mismatch overflow handling in nsRuleNode.cpp (c3590da576) - Issue #2757: Create a new basicShape of type inset then set inset coords to zero. (67421b3048) - Issue #2757 - Follow-up: Add clip-path test (manual QA) (3f67905afc) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - gfx: relax DrawTargetCairo::IsValid() check, fixes crash when loading spectrumsurveys.com (10b96192dd) - layout: plug back alias of -moz-user-select so it won't break pages/extensions relying on this (4c8df426a8) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250712-6129895b4-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250712-6129895b4-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 1: Un-prefix -moz-user-select (cc55a380) (cfadbb5d6) - ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 2: Align value names (17b594b7) (3a0677ec7) - import from UXP: No issue - Fix mixing of tabs with space-indented code. (552cb8db) (4634fe9d1) - import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 1: Revert "Temporarily force hidden elements to be actually hidden." (dd2cf17d) (29e601bb8) - import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 2: Add handling and storage for the revert unit and value (7f3f90ee) (f49dc1068) - ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 3: Implement cascade origin tracking to CSS parser (b0f09723) (13380336f) - import from UXP: - Issue #2045 - Part 4: Parse "revert" in property values wherever "unset" is allowed (9105c58a) - Issue #2045 - Part 5: Serialize shorthands using "revert" like those containing "unset" (801d4a2d) (f780f6a0c) - ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 6: Treat "revert" values as the same as "unset" when encountered in the rule node (c4b6135c) (0ddba686d) - ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 7: Override revert values during presentation hint cascade (166e98d2) (33497a7bb) - import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 8: Remap revert keyword values to a higher cascade level (a47f44e9) (7e8276dd1) - import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 9: Include the revert keyword in the list of accepted values for CSS properties returned by inDOMUtils (5346e556) (5b3195dad) - ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 10: Regenerate devtools CSS database and include the revert keyword in related devtools code (f0b8d1df) (e92c563a4) - import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 3: Add 'contain' as user-select value, retain 'element' (e6b48fcc) (f073823cd) - ported from UXP: [devtools] Further improve special character escaping in "copy as curl". (2d9cb22a) (28bf4bcf2) - ported from UXP: No Issue - Add detection for medium in border shorthand (9f7430f8) (4f0690a20) - import from UXP: Issue #2124 - Adjust overflow parser to handle two values (f4ffb1ec) (ae483ab3b) - ported from UXP: Issue #2662 - Implement axis-shorthand parsing (7c52fd93) (f7844356c) - ported from UXP: Issue #2124/2662: Optimize overflow shorthand parsing and serialization (7626c99c) (55a3af5f7) - ported from UXP: Issue #2124/2662: Cleaning of code (dae72b45) (9c80beb8f) - ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional Un-prefixing (1a5b3dca) (82ff6f599) - import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Un-prefix DOM Attribute MozUserSelect (abb891ff) (2b505c1fd) - import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional contain Keyword Entries (f1815317) (db2c8fdb5) - ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Remove Defunct -moz-user-select CSS Directives (8f46cd0d) (37991f84a) - import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Un-prefix -moz-user-select in Comments (b11affbd) (477ab51c4) - import from UXP: Issue #2780: Add back the mismatch overflow handling in nsRuleNode.cpp (c3590da5) (0ee810368) - import from UXP: Issue #2757: Create a new basicShape of type inset then set inset coords to zero. (67421b30) (0ea914daf) - import from UXP: Issue #2757 - Follow-up: Add clip-path test (manual QA) (3f67905a) (1b8fbc344) - import from `custom` branch of UXP: gfx: relax DrawTargetCairo::IsValid() check, fixes crash when loading spectrumsurveys.com (10b96192) (6129895b4)

I think we have to take Shane's word for it that the patch has been applied to Supermium 132. As I said earlier, it's an ESR version, which surely should be capable of having the patch applied to it, as it should be fully supported until the next ESR version is released. I'm not sure how we can test whether the patch has been applied successfully or not.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250712-7bda12e7-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250712-7bda12e7-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250712-id-656ea98-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250712-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

Strange, but it appears that the issue has completely resolved itself.

At least the acronym (BSoD) will still be valid, since both black and blue begin with the letter 'b' c

Then it's a good idea to use the patched ungoogled for Server 2008 R2. No one knows and no one can guarantee how good and when the old 132 Supermium will (ever?) be patched for that serious vulnerability. https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Chromium-for-windows-7/releases/tag/ungoogled-chromium_138.0.7204.96 Edit/ They say it's been patched in R5. But in the article they say the patch is for 138+! Contradictory. https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/releases/tag/v132-r5

That was clear, but from what they tell, looks like the patch is intended to be applied only to 138+. Who would write a patch for the old 132, while we are at 140+ already?

Thanks for linking! Unfortunately, such comparisons are not particularly useful. It also depends considerably on other components such as the RAM memory, north and south bridge, the bus clock, the graphics adapter, processor features, hyper-threading and so on.

Not quite true. I use both my old Windows XP computer and my Android tablet for what you call "real work". And in some special cases, a notebook with Windows 7 and Windows 10. But that was not the point here. Anyway! This thread is actually about Mypal 68, and I am happy to confirm that this browser works well on my old hardware. And much better when optimised.

Probably @Cixert assumed, and rightfully so, the double engine of 360 Explorer or something similar would be implemented in Supermium, too.

@win32

You mean ChatGPT suffers a notorious paranoia?

I don't know anything about Python either, but I just uploaded the new `update.py` (with only one line changed) into the GitHub web editor and committed.

They have. There's an "ancient" one called xoblite. It's kind of like using fluxbox on Windows instead of Linux. Check out the screenshots and you'll see what I mean. xoblite™ / Blackbox for Windows

There's something wrong with the latest (v2025.07.11) youtube-dl.exe build downloaded from GitHub: https://github.com/nicolaasjan/youtube-dl/releases/tag/2025.07.11 https://github.com/nicolaasjan/youtube-dl/releases/download/2025.07.11/youtube-dl.exe youtube-dl -vU => [debug] System config: [] [debug] User config: [] [debug] Custom config: [] [debug] Command-line args: ['-vU'] [debug] Encodings: locale cp1253, fs mbcs, out cp737, pref cp1253 [debug] youtube-dl version 2025.07.11 [debug] Lazy loading extractors enabled [debug] Single file build [debug] Python 3.4.4 (CPython x86 32bit) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6003-SP2 - OpenSSL 1.0.2d 9 Jul 2015 [debug] exe versions: none [debug] Proxy map: {} Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Users\nico\Desktop\youtube-dl_source\youtube_dl\update.py", line 48, in update_self File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 470, in open File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 580, in http_response File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 502, in error File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 442, in _call_chain File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 685, in http_error_302 File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 470, in open File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 580, in http_response File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 508, in error File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 442, in _call_chain File "c:\Program Files (x86)\Python3.4.4\lib\urllib\request.py", line 588, in http_error_default urllib.error.HTTPError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found ERROR: can't find the current version. Please try again later. The previous compile, of version 2025.06.26: https://github.com/nicolaasjan/youtube-dl/releases/download/2025.06.26/youtube-dl.exe , behaves as expected: youtube-dl -vU => [debug] System config: [] [debug] User config: [] [debug] Custom config: [] [debug] Command-line args: ['-vU'] [debug] Encodings: locale cp1253, fs mbcs, out cp737, pref cp1253 [debug] youtube-dl version 2025.06.26 [debug] Lazy loading extractors enabled [debug] Single file build [debug] Python 3.4.4 (CPython x86 32bit) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6003-SP2 - OpenSSL 1.0.2d 9 Jul 2015 [debug] exe versions: none [debug] Proxy map: {} youtube-dl is up to date (2025.06.26) Many thanks for your ongoing efforts towards maintaining support for "our" older OSes ...

So I updated my Vista SP2 x64 to 2016, still no joy. Chromium for Windows 7 by e3kskoy7wqk starts with the same method! Ideas? I don't understand what else CatsXP wants, aren't those both made for win 7?

What for? It's obsolete, no matter how good it was 2 years ago. D.Draker no longer recommends this browser due to the age. https://msfn.org/board/topic/186346-i-moved-to-centbrowser-im-not-happy-about-it/page/5/#findComment-1275874

they did this because they want jemalloc to be integrated into C runtime, which is un-recommended by MS later.

This is not a bug, but an improvement to indicate disabled window. There is/will be a setting to disable shading for confused ones [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\StartIsBack\DarkMagic] FadeDisabled = (DWORD)0 There are acrylic effects alright, but it's not supposed to be pure black, maybe extra tweaks on your system.

The unofficial guide "How to get MyPal 68 working on Windows XP SP1!" is now available. This guide is made by me. This would be useful for Althon XP/Pentium III machines running Windows XP SP1, because Supermium does NOT support processors without SSE2 yet. https://sites.google.com/view/clara-incorporated/modernization/windows-xp-sp1/firefox-based-browsers/mypal-68 @feodor2and @roytam1

Yes, I can. Then leave only one, what stops you? Never heard of XP using two modern cards all at once in one setup troub;e free.

Version 138 is required for the fix; the bug goes back earlier though: Good catch. Google is being tight-lipped on exactly when this vulnerability crept in. I doubt it goes all the way back to 2008, though. Today's V8 looks nothing like the original. I believe (and should have said) versions prior to the V8 optimizer are not vulnerable. I suspect 360EE (and Kafan MiniBrowser) aren't vulnerable because the option to turn off the optimizer isn't there (presumably because there's nothing to turn off), but I can't be sure with the limited info we have.

You can find the download link for the CAupdater in my main article ProxHTTPSProxy and HTTPSProxy in Windows XP for future use in the section 11.2.4. Downloads related to Root Certificate Updates.

Unlike in your country Armenia, in France sellers are under certain obligations before the customers, for example: they can't refuse to serve basic needs items like soap, condoms, cosmetics, refrigerators, etc. As for the Chanel bags I was going to buy, unfortunately, they can because they belong to the luxury segment. So no, he can't put deadbolts because he registered as a seller and owns a website that he must maintain in accordance with the French laws. And if we speak about that site in particular, the laws of Quebec, which aren't that different because they are an off-spring from France.

The owner of the website determines what level of "protection" is used, not Cloudflare. Cloudflare simply gives the tools to the owner.

Ok. I was able to improve a bit my custom button for calling up the "Manage Cookies and Site Data" window. Both, the about:preferences#privacy and three seconds later the desired dialogue are now loaded in the same chrome window which avoids an additional loading of a tab. Nevertheless, I hope that there is a better solution yet. As custom buttons are actually the topic of this thread, I have decided to post about this stuff here again. My project of creating a custom button to directly call up the "Manage Cookies and Site Data" dialogue in Mypal 68 seems to have come to a temporary end. It works perfectly. I have solved the issues encountered in my own way and I am currently in testing mode. Here is a short preview:

This topic is designed to compare the overall performance of different computers with each other under Windows XP.

I am not always right. But a pure comparison of CPUs is not sufficient. Read here, for example, about the difference between SD-RAM and DDR2-RAM: https://www.transcend-info.com/support/faq-296#:~:text=DDR2 SDRAM(Double Data Rate,(double of DDR SDRAM). Maybe now you'll realise what I'm talking about. And apart from that, an Intel Pentium 4 is not the same as an Intel Pentium 4. There were different series like Willamette, Northwood, and Prescott. And within these series different FSB clock rates. So, forget about these comparison sites! The only way to compare our computers is doing the same test regarding all hardware components. P.S.: Due to my motherboard layout, there are several bottlenecks. Firstly, the extremely slow SD-RAM memory, then the very low bus clock rate and finally the AGP 4x interface, although my graphics card actually is an AGP 8x one.

Please, don't come up with your "gut feelings"! I have presented all the essential facts that you have not commented on. My presentation has nothing to do with subjectivity and hypotheses. But as I said, it's offtopic here anyway and actually totally irrelevant. Your cucumber is old and mine is many years older.

Wow! The interest in Comodo security programmes seems to be huge.

SUPERAntiSpyware Free Edition works absolutely fine here. No issues. No DLL problems. I can access all features. I think your system is the causer. You can alternatively try the installer version 10.0.1250 as this version was the one before incompatibilities with the programme appeared the first time. BTW, I have been using SUPERAntiSpyware since 2007 without any serious issues. So, please check your system first before posting issues one can't confirm!

You're welcome. Finding download links was no problem, but the constant testing is annoying. Anyway! Thanks for reporting the XP incompatibility of the more recent SUPERAntiSpyware installers! One thing has once again become clear. The incompatibility of an installer does not necessarily mean that the programme itself is also incompatible.

And now, disable Circular Kernel Context Logger and Audio logger. Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\WMI\Autologger] "Status"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\WMI\Autologger\Audio] "Start"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\WMI\Autologger\Circular Kernel Context Logger] "Start"=dword:00000000

Glad that explains it, I do have the Segoe UI fonts installed on XP. I can't remember why.

Akin

Spot

Spar

Swab

Neither this browser, nor this topic are only limited to XP, I don't use XP (most of the time). Where do you get the stats about the "whole" world? Link to a reputable source, please.

Spring

Iguana

Reading. (town in Berkshire)

Knickerbocker Glory

Did you also try different user agents on this website?

You will only know whether these custom buttons are compatible with @roytam1's browsers or not when trying to install them and checking their functionality. Most of these custom buttons are very old. Unfortunately, many of them don't work in Firefox 52 based browsers any longer. They would have to be fixed if possible at all. I personally use only those which are fully functional. My self-created custom buttons have been developed for UXP based browsers and are compatible with @roytam1's browsers and most probably with Pale Moon, too. I even managed some of them to also work in Mypal 68. Have a look here: https://msfn.org/board/topic/183657-mypal-68-in-windows-xp-custom-buttons-and-extensions/?do=findComment&comment=1229639 The more universal the JavaScript coding of these custom buttons, the more compatible. And you have to target only functions which are supported in all browsers. That's why only a few of the old custom buttons can be used in Mypal 68.

gpt.ini

Probably they implemented some anti-hack feature, in addition to limiting youtube's videos frequently posted by some members?

Thank you for the detailed explanation!

I fail to understand why do they all patch only the standard chrome, not ungoogled.