rov Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Well, I'm trying to resurrect an old Toshiba laptop for my son (2nd grader). It's sloow, but built like a tank (Satellite 4030CDT). Anyway, the hard drive is maxed out, so I bought a new one (100 GB for only about 75 bucks). That's way more than it needs to be, but I figured when the laptop finally croaks, I can make the HDD into an external USB drive for backup.So, the machine came with Win98 (NOT Win98SE). I tried to clone the old HDD onto the new one, but it failed. The new drive is partitioned and formatted, and is supposed to be bootable, but it won't actually boot! I also tried to restore to the new drive from the backup CDs that came with the laptop, but that didn't work either.Question is, anybody know where I can buy an actual copy of Win98SE? I was thinking of just installing a fresh copy of Win98 from scratch. Called a few stores today and they all kinda laughed.Any help is appreciated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galahs Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 you'd be very lucky indeed if you found a retiler still selling legitimate copies of Windows 98.They do however often pop up on ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsenellenelvian Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Ebay search for Win 98 seAs for the boot problem I do believe you are pretty screwed your laptop's bios and mobo most likely will not support a 100 gig drive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenoitRen Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 I bought mine at a computer convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rov Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share Posted March 18, 2007 (edited) Ebay search for Win 98 seAs for the boot problem I do believe you are pretty screwed your laptop's bios and mobo most likely will not support a 100 gig drive...A little update. I wasn't able to get the cloning operation to work - I tried using xxclone, but it couldn't find a source OR target drive. Eventually, I punted and tried to restore to the new hard disk from the backup CDs. Turns out that worked, it just wouldn't boot because I forgot to make the partition active when I formatted it. So, I booted to a floppy and ran FDISK to set the partition active. Then rebooted to the hard drive, and all was well (sort of). The restore process finished after I rebooted.In hindsight, maybe xxclone failed because the target partition wasn't active, so it couldn't find more than one drive? Although it has an option to make the target bootable...So, now I have a fresh copy of Win98 on the new hard disk, but with no updates, bug fixes, patches, etc. Still looking for SE, but I'm not eager to go ebay. That may be my only choice, or give in to the dark side and try XP...Edit - forgot to mention I formatted the drive using the updated Win98 FDISK (the one that correctly recognizes partitions larger than 64GB). Worked like a charm, but sloooow. Only hitch was the set active thing, but probably my fault :-) Edited March 18, 2007 by rov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doswind Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 At one time you paid for win98, you just don't have a CD; so you wouldn't be braking anything if you downloaded a copy of 98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rov Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share Posted March 19, 2007 At one time you paid for win98, you just don't have a CD; so you wouldn't be braking anything if you downloaded a copy of 98actually, i DO have a CD, it's the backup CD for Win98 First Edition, which is what came preloaded on the computer. what i'm looking for is a retail upgrade (or full version) of Win98 Second Edition.Pretty sure there's no place to download the whole OS, only service packs & patches, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleventhcmd Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I can guarantee you that you will find a seedy place to download w98se on some P2P network. Probably with all the patches. But it probably illegal.Why not just Linux the laptop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rov Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share Posted March 19, 2007 I can guarantee you that you will find a seedy place to download w98se on some P2P network. Probably with all the patches. But it probably illegal.Why not just Linux the laptop?not really interested in seedy p2p. linux is not a good fit for this one, it's for my son (2nd grade), primarily for him to learn typing & some mindless kiddie games (most are hand-me down win98 games, circa 2000). i might dual boot it with a linux distro just for fun, then see how that develops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleventhcmd Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Just had a look at the laptop specs: P3-300Mhz Celeron with 192M RAM. That should really be more than enough to run XP. I was running a nLited version without a problom on a P2-300 with 128M RAM. Yes it wasn't the fastest thing but worked. So XP is doable without a problem if you are thinking of heading that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenoitRen Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 No way, not XP. It's very insecure, uses more RAM than it needs, is more annoying, and you will have to activate it, which makes you dependent on M$.It would probably cost a good chunk of money, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rov Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share Posted March 19, 2007 No way, not XP. It's very insecure, uses more RAM than it needs, is more annoying, and you will have to activate it, which makes you dependent on M$.It would probably cost a good chunk of money, too.Funny, I agree with both eleventhcmd and BenoitRen - I think it could run XP, but it may be excruciatingly slow. Right now with a fresh win98 install and a new, fast hard drive, the old girl is pretty da*n fast. The other issue is it will be loaded with old games, some of which may not run on XP. I don't know of any way to be sure except to try it, which means buying an XP upgrade that I may never use. Agree it would be an expensive test. I guess I could use the XP upgrade on another aging machine in the basement.Anyway, thanks for the advice folks. I'll repost when I've found a solution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doswind Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 (edited) rovI sent you PM -- hopefully you received it (it took three attempts)_____________________________Warez Forbidden - Read our forum rules. Specifically rule one.1. This is not a warez site! Links/Requests to warez and/or illegal material (porn, cracks, serials, etc..) will not be tolerated. Discussion of circumventing WGA/activation/timebombs/keygens or any other illegal activity will also not be tolerated. You will be banned without notice. ______________________________A general question, somewhat relatedI buy a new computer, it comes with windows pre-installed, but no installation CD; two weeks later hard-drive fails, I buy new hard-drive, need to re-install windows: what to do ?I have (legal) NT 5.1 installation CDs, and don't care to use XP; but if someone does ? what is the procedure ? Edited March 20, 2007 by Tarun Removed three warez links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 doswind, While it is appreciated that you are trying to help, please do not post or PM any warez links.rov, try contacting Microsoft and see what they have to say. They may be surprisingly helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doswind Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Fair enoughI, of course, would beg to differ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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